Episode 19 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Kim Whitler, a business professor at the University of Virginia Darden School of Business. Kim started at P&G and went on to be a GM at Aurora Foods and the CMO at David's Bridal before shifting to academia - one of her fortes is deep quantitative research on marketing. We discuss careers, why CPG training can be foundational, and the many factors causing CMO turnover. Highlights include why candidates should "throw out" the job spec since over 50% of them are incorrect, boards and CEOs who don't believe in marketing, firms who think marketers are all interchangeable, and candidates who take positions doomed for failure. She provides tips to avoid these situations and also calls out search firms for a "cut and paste" approach while challenging them to do better in prepping candidates and companies.

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Episode 18 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Paul Roetzer, the founder of The Marketing AI Institute and author of Marketing Artificial Intelligence who has been working on and with AI for12 years. We discuss the difference between machine learning and generative AI, the recent Google I/O Conference, how governments have been working on AI since the '50's, AI uses for efficiency and revenue acceleration, and what marketers and advertisers should be thinking about right now. Some key takeaways include practicing with AI, focusing on the application layer versus the theory, investing in outcomes, and avoiding the trap of spending a boatload of money on the concept before you know what you really want AI to do for you. P.S. This descriptor was not generated by ChatGP.

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Episode 17 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Carilu Deitrich the former CMO and Hypergrowth Advisor who helped take Atlassian public. In part 2 of "Why The Short Shelf Life for CMO's Carilu outlines the top 5 reasons B2B marketers fail and shares tips on how to avoid the major pitfalls of the job. She also provides some thoughts on why 2023 might be a tough year for marketers, the perils of hypergrowth, and the importance of connecting with the rest of the C-Suite, especially Sales and the CEO. We also discuss learning from failure.

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Episode 16 - Ron has been a CIO numerous times including Express Scripts, the State of Illinois (Go Bears), Toyota Financial Services, HP and Farmers Insurance. Marketing has always been an analytical function. And the function has gotten more analytical and significantly more measurable since then. In this week's episode Mike and Ron discuss how the two functions can not only coexist, but thrive together.

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Episode 15 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Kip Knight. The founder of CMO Coaches, former CMO of Taco Bell, and President of H&R Block’s US business, joins the show for a second time as we switch formats and have him lead a 2-way dialogue following up on our "Why the Short Shelf Life of CMO's" session. We discuss marketing as “the offense” of the company, how to be “an optimist with objectivity,” the obligation of marketers to translate their budgets into sales and profit, the Marketing CFO position, and “the difference between a promise and a trend.”

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Episode 14 - A CMO Confidential interview with Clive Sirkin, the host of the podcast Unstuck who previously served as the Chief Growth Officer of Kellogg, the CMO of Kimberly-Clark, and the Group Managing Director of Leo Burnett. We discuss the difference between creativity and crafting, reducing the fear of getting out on the "creative ice," how to be a marketer versus an artist, avoiding the "marketing contagion of the moment" and how to make consumer believers versus taking hostages.

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Episode 13 - Joe started his career in credit cards at MBNA where he launched the NFL Visa card. He was the VP of Marketing for the New York Yankees, worked on David Bowie’s business and then became New York City’s first ever CMO in 2003. He’s gone on to found a digital ad agency and most recently a creator marketing technology platform called PROPS, where he serves as the CEO

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Episode 12 - A CMO Confidential interview with Craig Coffey, the former CMO of Frontier Communications and Nokia North America and the founder of Way Maker Leadership, an executive leadership coaching practice serving senior executive and high-potentials in Fortune 200 companies. We discuss, beating the 2-year tenure jinx that bedevils the position, playing at a strategic level, hiring the right team, leading the consumer charge, managing social issues, and elevating the position. There's also tips on re-imagining the job, especially during the interview process and on the way in.

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Episode 11  - A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Seclow of Spencer Stuart. Tom for many years led the CMO and Customer Experience practice for one of the most respected search firms in the world. He discusses the short tenure of the position, aligning expectations, the difference between CMO and other C-level job specs, the power of classical consumer goods training, things to think about when you are considering a position, and CMO promiscuity and curiosity. Yes, you read that right, but it's not what you think.

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Episode 10 - A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Kirk, the long-time EVP and Chief Client Officer of RPA, the large independent agency in Los Angeles. TK, as he is known, discusses creative as a business driver, how consensus building can destroy good ideas, thinking through your agency interface and organization structure, Wayne Gretzky, and last, but not least an "orbiting the giant hairball "cow analogy.

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