If you get an unsolicited sexual call or nude picture sent to you, is that a crime? You may be surprised by the answer. One of the suspects in the disappearance of Sheree Warren in 1985 was caught making lewd phone calls to women multiple times. Do these types of crimes often escalate to other, more aggressive behaviors? Joining hosts Amy Donaldson & Sheryl Worsley for the discussion on this edition of Talking Cold: prosecutor and division director of the Salt Lake County Special Victims Unit Anna Rossi Anderson and former FBI profiler and host of the Killer Psyche & Killer Psyche Daily podcasts, Candice DeLong.

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Who handles your case if you go missing or are murdered? Talking Cold is the after-show podcast that dives into the key issues raised in COLD. Season 3 of COLD tells the story of Sheree Warren, who disappeared from Salt Lake City, Utah in 1985. Her case remains unsolved today, partially because of police squabbles over jurisdiction. Talking Cold hosts Amy Donaldson and Sheryl Worsley ask retired Salt Lake County Sheriff Aaron Kennard and former Roy, Utah police chief Carl Merino why police egos and invisible borders sometimes get in the way of solving crimes.

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Thanks for listening to season three of COLD, we hope you enjoyed it. If you did, there’s another podcast we think you should check out called Killer Psyche.

On Killer Psyche, retired FBI agent Candice DeLong draws on her decades of experience to reveal why these murderers and criminals committed these acts. She will reveal fascinating new details about what drove these people, including cases she was close to. Candice will share specific psychological methods and profiling techniques that experts use to understand the deepest part of the most complex, fascinating, and twisted minds, from the Unabomber to Dr. Death to El Chapo.

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Cary Hartmann returns to Ogden after leaving prison, only to face fresh suspicion. Charles Warren’s health declines, leaving him unable to clear up lingering questions. The Cold team pieces together the evidence to provide the most likely scenario in the unsolved cold case disappearance of Sheree Warren.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-10-last-man-standing/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/last-man-standing-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Ben Kuebrich
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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A human skull is discovered on a hillside next to a busy Utah highway. Roy City police detective John Frawley digs into an abandoned box of Sheree Warren case files. Sheree’s ex-husband, Charles Warren, botches an opportunity to clear himself as a suspect in her disappearance.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-9-a-picture-in-the-lobby/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/a-picture-in-the-lobby-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Aaron Mason
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Two pivotal recordings are revealed: Cary Hartmann's police interview about Sheree Warren and a secret interrogation of Cary’s brother, Jack Hartmann. Investigator Shane Minor looks for the missing piece he needs before he can arrest Cary.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-8-fool-me-once/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/fool-me-once-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Ben Kuebrich
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Investigator Shane Minor heads up the mountain behind Causey Reservoir in search of Sheree Warren’s remains. Cary Hartmann begins to accept responsibility for the crimes he was convicted of, and at long last agrees to speak with police about Sheree’s disappearance.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-7-purgatory/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/purgatory-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Ben Kuebrich
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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A jailhouse snitch tells the FBI that Cary Hartmann killed Sheree Warren. Cary tries to convince the parole board he's innocent. Sheree’s family members hold a memorial and have her declared legally deceased. Ogden police detective Shane Minor follows up on a longshot lead in the search for Sheree.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-6-lying-liars/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/lying-liars-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Adam Mason
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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Cary Hartmann brings look-alikes to a police lineup in the Ogden City Rapist case. His TV reporter friend Larry Lewis tests the boundaries of journalistic ethics when Cary goes to trial. Police detective Jack Bell receives a letter about Sheree Warren and the TV show “Unsolved Mysteries.”

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-5-nighthawk/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/nighthawk-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Aaron Mason
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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An anonymous caller reports finding a body in the mountains, near Causey Reservoir. Police search, thinking they might find the remains of Sheree Warren. Ogden detectives try to link Cary Hartmann and the lingerie survey phone calls to the Ogden City Rapist, but the case isn’t as simple as it seems. New witnesses place Sheree Warren with Cary on the night of her disappearance.

Season 3 of Cold includes descriptions of rape, sexual assault, murder and domestic violence. Please take care when listening. Free resources for escaping domestic abuse are available at thehotline.org. Support and tools for survivors of sexual violence can be found at rainn.org.

See photos, files and more for this episode: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3/ep-4-the-supper-club/

Episode transcript: https://thecoldpodcast.com/season-3-transcript/the-supper-club-full-transcript/

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Episode credits:

• Research, writing and hosting: Dave Cawley
• Audio production: Ben Kuebrich
• Audio mixing: Ben Kuebrich
• Cold main score composition: Michael Bahnmiller
• Additional scoring: Allison Leyton-Brown
• KSL executive producer: Sheryl Worsley
• Workhouse Media executive producers: Paul Anderson, Nick Panella, Andrew Greenwood

If you enjoy Cold, please try these other great shows from KSL Podcasts: The Letter, Ransom, Unsolved Histories

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