"CFT helps us understand the evolved function of harmfulness...it's not our fault that we have these drives and tendencies to harm, but it is our responsibility."

Today, I'm thrilled to have Dr. Karensa Hocken with me, a forensic psychologist who has spent over 20 years working with people convicted of serious offences. She’s a leader in her field, and today we dive into the challenging topic of working compassionately with individuals who have caused serious harm. We discuss the origins of human harmfulness, the role of CFT (Compassion Focused Therapy) in forensic work, and the importance of empathy, sympathy, and creating safer environments. Get ready for an impactful conversation on complexity, compassion, and change in forensic settings.

TIME STAMPS:

00:00 Introduction and Movember Update

00:29 Introducing Dr. Karensa Hocken

02:28 Understanding Human Harmfulness

08:06 The Role of Evolution in Harmfulness

16:20 Forensic Work and Compassion Focused Therapy (CFT)

22:46 Shame, Guilt, and Compassion in Forensic Populations

29:35 Applying CFT in Forensic Settings

32:47 Building Compassion in Forensic Therapy

33:25 Risk Assessment and Compassion in CFT

34:59 Creating Compassionate Cultures in Prisons

39:04 Understanding Community Reactions to Harmfulness

45:58 Empathy and Sympathy in Forensic Work

53:12 Challenges and Emotions arising as CFT progresses

58:52 Future Directions for CFT in Forensics

01:01:42 Resources and Connections for Forensic CFT

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Find the Compassionate Mind Foundation Special Interest Groups here:

https://www.compassionatemind.co.uk/resource/special-interest-groups

For more from Kerensa and her colleague Jon Taylor, speaking with Professor Paul Gilbert, go here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvYy_e4SEes

The Forensic Psychology Podcasts:

On Apple

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-forensic-psychology-podcast/id1533101974

On Spotify

https://open.spotify.com/show/6RkkZsEFg8xkooawuXe8En?si=cb0654f577c2442c

If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

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[This episode with Dr Steve Hickman is from a YouTube episode aired on 1 March 2024. It is released here as a podcast to compliment the episode with Dr Daniel Ellenberg, which discussed men, masculinity and compassion, released last Friday (8 November 2024).]

Dr Steve Hickman is the former Executive Director of the non-profit Center for Mindful Self-Compassion, a Certified Mindful Self-Compassion teacher and trainer, and a Clinical Psychologist by training. He is also a Retired Associate Clinical Professor in the University of California at San Diego School of Medicine, as well as the Founding Director of the UC San Diego Center for Mindfulness. Here we chat about self-compassion and the Mindful Self-Compassion program, as well as self-compassion for men.

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Self-compassion for Dummies by Dr Steve Hickman

https://www.amazon.com.au/Self-Compassion-Dummies-Steven-Hickman/dp/1119796687

Dr Steve Hickman website

https://www.drstevenhickman.com

Center for Mindful Self-Compassion

https://centerformsc.org

If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

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Join me in this episode of Compassion in a T-Shirt as I explore the intricate world of men and compassion with Dr. Daniel Ellenberg. Dr. Ellenberg, a leadership coach and psychotherapist, delves into the challenges and barriers men face in expressing vulnerability and developing self-compassion. With over 25 years of experience, he discusses traditional male roles, the impacts of shaming, and how compassion can transform relationships and improve mental health. Through personal anecdotes and rich discussion, learn how fostering compassion can create significant ripple effects in society.

TIME STAMPS:

00:00 Welcome and Introduction

00:30 Introducing Dr. Daniel Ellenberg

02:12 Daniel's Journey into Men's Emotional Wellbeing

05:14 The Impact of Traditional Masculine Roles

08:05 The Importance of Compassion and Self-Compassion

10:34 Challenges in Promoting Compassion Among Men

13:26 The Role of Vulnerability in Men's Mental Health

21:01 Revising Traditional Masculinity Paradigms

27:23 The Complexity of Competition and Vulnerability

30:53 How to Foster Compassion in Men and Boys

33:15 The Natural Movement Toward Growth

34:06 The Impact of Shaming on Boys and Men

35:19 Understanding Real Compassion

38:53 The Theory of Precarious Manhood

43:56 Cultural Differences in Compassion

51:38 The Ripple Effects of Compassionate Men

57:58 Defining Compassion and Love

01:00:43 Concluding Thoughts on Compassion

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Rewire Leadership

https://www.rewireleadership.com/daniel-ellenberg-phd

Strength With Heart

https://www.strengthwithheart.com/

Relationships at Work

https://www.relationshipsthatwork.com/

Lovers for Life

https://www.amazon.com.au/Lovers-Life-Judith-Bell/dp/0944031617

If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

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[This episode with Dr Mats Hogmark is from a YouTube episode aired on 2 May 2021. It is released here as a podcast to compliment the episode with Brendan Murphy, which discussed empathy and related topics, released last Friday (1 November 2024).]

“Compassion brings light and it brings hope into the darkest of stories.”

Dr Mats Hogmark is a medical doctor specialising in general medicine at Darlana County Council in Sweden. He is also a motivational interviewing trainer and member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT). He runs training and seminars on motivational interviewing and communication skills with professionals in health care and social services.

Time Stamps:

3.43 Tell us a little bit about yourself, your work, your life.

6.50 What does your working week entail?

10.07 Feeling safe in the context of a longterm working relationship.

12.19 Sometimes you can form a relationship and create safeness quite quickly.

14.22 Fine tuning facial expressions, body posture and voice tone to express warmth, openness and empathy.

16.59 Carefully choosing what to say and what not to say to help create safeness.

19.06 Dividing the consultation into three parts: the patient's part, the doctor's part, and the mutual part at the end.

20.28 The patient's part involves: Ideas--Concerns--Expectations (ICE).

25.46 A compassionate conversation is a conversation between two experts.

30.37 Taking the lower place, elevating those who we are working with.

35.28 A compassionate outlook towards others, and towards oneself.

36.53 When the clinician's threat system is activated too.

39.27 Considering compassion fatigue or physician burnout.

40.42 How do you offer yourself compassion, how do you look after your self-care?

44.25 Compassion and self-compassion can involve joy.

46.52 A Carl Rogers quote.

48.17 A Bill Miller quote.

49.51 How can people find you or engage with you and your work?

51.03 Three tips for others making their way on their own compassionate journeys.

YouTube Link:

https://youtu.be/SrMs98VTC9U

Email:

[email protected]

Social Media:

Twitter @matshogmark

If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

Join Dr. Stan Steindl on 'Compassion in a T-Shirt' for an enlightening exploration of empathy, compassion, and their applied intricacies in therapeutic and daily settings. Featuring expert insights from Brendan Murphy, the episode delves into the multifaceted nature of empathy, including its positive impacts and challenges, the crucial role of eye contact in both digital and face-to-face interactions, and the ethical considerations of Motivational Interviewing. The discussion highlights the importance of self-awareness, the balance between empathy and self-protection, and the nuanced differences between empathy, sympathy, and compassion. Through personal stories and professional experiences, the conversation also touches on creating safe environments for trauma therapy and managing empathy to avoid burnout, offering practical advice for cultivating genuine, ethical, and effective empathetic connections.

TIME STAMPS:

00:00 Welcome and Introduction to Brendan Murphy

01:15 Diving into Empathy -- "feeling into"

03:02 The Complexities of Empathy

04:43 Empathy in Practice

06:37 The Darker Sides of Empathy

16:22 The Role of Eye Contact in Empathy

30:13 Empathy vs. Sympathy

35:26 Exploring Compassion and Toxic Compassion

36:41 Empathy Without Sympathy: The Empathic Torturer

38:59 Motivational Interviewing and Compassion

39:50 Boundaries in Motivational Interviewing

42:22 Ethics and Empathy in Therapy

43:29 The Dance of Empathy in Therapy

44:25 Empathy and Trauma: A Therapist's Perspective

53:42 The Dialectic of Empathy and Safety

57:44 Empathy in Daily Life and Personal Boundaries

01:06:27 The Joy and Pride in Empathy

01:11:22 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

TARGETED PLAYLIST:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Brendan Murphy's website

https://westernconsultancyservices.com/

If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

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[This episode with Shay Addison and Lars Madsen is from a YouTube episode aired on 24 May 2024. It is released here as a podcast to compliment the episode with David Prescott, which discussed building safer societies, released last Saturday (26 October 2024).]

What is Schema Therapy? Are compassion and self-compassion a part of Schema Therapy? Is the Compassionate Self in Compassion Focused Therapy the same as, or a subset of, the Healthy Adult Mode in Schema Therapy?

Shay Addison is a psychologist and director of the Forensic + Clinical Psychology Centre in Brisbane Australia. She has been a psychologist for over 20 years and has worked in custodial and community corrections since the mid-90s, especially taking a schema therapy approach to her work.

Dr Lars Madsen is Clinical Director of the Forensic and Clinical Psychology Center and is an industry leader in forensic psychology, bringing schema therapy to forensic populations in his work as a therapist, clinical supervisor, and trainer.

Join Shay, Lars and myself as we discuss, "Is compassion a part of schema therapy?"

TARGETED PLAYLIST:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Forensic + Clinical Psychology Centre

https://psychclinic.com.au/

Course:

. Foundations of schema therapy for offending populations

. A hero's journey: The forensic schema therapy sessions

https://www.schematherapytrainingonline.com/courses/author/1152602

Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/fandcpc

Instagram page:

https://www.instagram.com/forensic.clinical.psychology/

Shay and Lars's podcast, along with Dr Rob Brockman

Beyond the Crime: A Psychological Analysis

https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/beyond-the-crime-a-psychological-analysis/id1709409255

If you would like to learn more about Compassion Focused Therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:

https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480

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Join me and my special guest David Prescott, LCSW, in an enlightening discussion about the evolution of compassionate approaches in sex offender treatment. Explore the integration of empathy and a therapeutic alliance in contemporary practices such as cognitive behavioral therapy, feedback-informed treatment, and motivational interviewing. Delve into the complexities and challenges faced by therapists, including dealing with societal reactions, stigmatisation, and maintaining professional boundaries. The conversation also highlights the importance of continuous learning and self-improvement, with insights into using client feedback and the impact of community-driven efforts to end sexual abuse and violence through organisations like Safer Societies.

TIME STAMPS:

00:00 Welcome and Introduction to David Prescott

01:49 Historical Approaches to Sex Offender Treatment

04:05 Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Its Evolution

06:26 The Role of Empathy and Compassion in Therapy

12:11 Challenges and Advances in Treatment Approaches

18:41 Balancing Risk Assessment and Compassion

26:23 Public Perception and Framing the Issue

32:40 The Power of Empathy and Compassion

33:11 Challenges in Working with Perpetrators and Survivors

34:20 The Calling of Compassionate Work

35:21 Integrating Motivational Interviewing

39:11 Feedback Informed Treatment

41:26 The Importance of Client Feedback

50:26 Self-Care and Compassion Practices

56:35 Safer Societies and Final Thoughts

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

David Prescott's Website:

https://www.davidprescott.net/

Safer Societies Website:

https://safersociety.org/

Feedback-Informed Treatment in Clinical Practice: Reaching for Excellence (Prescott, Maeschalck & Miller, 2017)

https://www.amazon.com/Feedback-Informed-Treatment-Clinical-Practice-Excellence/dp/1433827743

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[This episode with Dr Nadine Levy is from a YouTube episode aired on 10 November 2023. It is released here as a podcast to compliment the episode with Dr Tony Fernando about his book, Life Hacks from the Buddha, released last Friday (18 October 2024).]

Dr Nadine Levy is Head of the Health and Social Wellbeing Program at the Nan Tien Institute, a private, not for profit, government accredited higher education provider offering courses in the areas of Buddhist studies, health and wellbeing.

Nadine holds a PhD in sociology and Honours degrees in both law and gender studies. She is a committed Buddhist practitioner and is currently completing teacher training in the Insight meditation tradition. As such, she has a particular interest in Buddhist sociology/a sociology of Buddhism and the ways these two paradigms can enliven each another.

She is a researcher with several publications, and is particularly interested in translating research for general dissemination and consumption through various news outlets, such as The Guardian.

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt

LINKS:

Nadine Levy at the Nan Tien Institute

https://www.nantien.edu.au/about-us/faculty-and-staff/nadine-levy/

Articles at The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/nov/06/try-parenting-the-buddhist-way-drop-your-expectations-and-go-with-the-flow

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/sep/11/if-you-want-to-live-a-life-rich-in-meaning-first-you-must-learn-how-to-do-nothing

The book Nadine mentions, The Five Invitations by Frank Ostaseski

https://fiveinvitations.com/

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In this insightful interview, Dr. Tony Fernando, psychiatrist, mindfulness expert, and author of Life Hacks from the Buddha: How to Be Calm and Content in a Chaotic World, shares 50 practical and easy-to-follow life hacks inspired by the Buddha’s timeless wisdom. We explore how these simple yet powerful techniques can help you quieten your mind, create peaceful environments, and find the calm you need to thrive in today’s hectic world.

Dr. Fernando also draws from his unique experience as a Buddhist monk, blending ancient teachings with modern science to offer a roadmap to contentment and well-being. Whether you’re new to mindfulness or looking for deeper insights, this conversation is full of valuable takeaways to help you cultivate inner peace, reduce stress, and leave a positive impression on those around you.

TARGETED PLAYLIST LINK:

Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

LINKS:

Life Hacks from the Buddha: How to be Calm and Content in a Chaotic World

https://www.amazon.com.au/Life-Hacks-Buddha-content-chaotic/dp/1775542394

Buddhist philosophy and psychiatry | Tony Fernando (working at the intersection)

https://youtu.be/Ov9xtUCsQRQ

Helping doctors cultivate compassion | Tony Fernando (What are the blocks?)

https://youtu.be/4mGoEHCeZwo

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[This episode with Dr Kristin Neff is from a YouTube episode aired on 31 May 2024. It is released here as a podcast to compliment the episode with Dr Elijah Zimmerman from Center for Mindful Self-Compassion released last Saturday (12 October 2024).]

Dr Kristin Neff is a pioneer of our contemporary understanding and approaches to self-compassion. She defines THE THREE COMPONENTS OF SELF-COMPASSION: mindfulness, common humanity and self-kindness. She highlights THE SPACE BETWEEN SELF-ESTEEM AND SELF-COMPASSION and also distinguishes self-compassion from notions of self-pity. She offers an OVERVIEW OF THE MINDFUL SELF-COMPASSION PROGRAM (MSC), including adaptations and recent developments, and some TIPS: HOW TO PRACTICE SELF-COMPASSION. She offers hope of SELF-COMPASSION AS AN ANTIDOTE TO SHAME. She discusses how we might start OVERCOMING OBJECTIONS TO SELF-COMPASSION, the common fears, blocks and resistances to self-compassion, not least self-criticism, and WHY SELF-COMPASSION IS KEY TO MOTIVATION.

LINKS:

Dr Kristin Neff website

https://self-compassion.org/

Centre for Mindful Self-Compassion

https://centerformsc.org/

The Space Between Self-Esteem and Self Compassion: Kristin Neff at TEDxCentennialParkWomen (2.9 million views!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvtZBUSplr4

Self-Compassion: The Proven Power of Being Kind to Yourself

https://www.amazon.com.au/Self-Compassion-Kristin-Neff/dp/1444738178/

Fierce Self-Compassion: How Women Can Harness Kindness to Speak Up, Claim Their Power, and Thrive

https://www.amazon.com.au/Fierce-Self-Compassion-Women-Stand-Claim/dp/0241448654/

Teaching the Mindful Self-Compassion Program: A Guide for Professionals

https://www.amazon.com.au/Teaching-Mindful-Self-Compassion-Program-Professionals/dp/1462538894/

The Mindful Self-Compassion Workbook: A Proven Way to Accept Yourself, Build Inner Strength, and Thrive

https://www.amazon.com.au/Mindful-Self-Compassion-Workbook-Yourself-Strength/dp/1462526780/

NEFF, K. (2003). Self-Compassion: An Alternative Conceptualization of a Healthy Attitude Toward Oneself. Self and Identity, 2(2), 85–101. https://doi.org/10.1080/15298860309032

NEFF, K. D. (2003). The Development and Validation of a Scale to Measure Self-Compassion. Self and Identity, 2(3), 223–250.

https://doi.org/10.1080/15298860309027

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Compassion in a T-Shirt: In Session

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