Hi, I'm Dr. Stan Steindl, and welcome back to Compassion in a T Shirt. I recently completed Movember and donations are still open to support men's health initiatives (a link is in the description below) - thank you to everyone who's contributed!
Today, I'm joined by three wonderful guests: Dr. David Rosengren, Dr. Lynne Johnston, and Dr. Charlotte Hilton, world-class experts in motivational interviewing. They discuss their fascinating new book, 'Experiencing Motivational Interviewing from the Inside Out,' which focuses on self-practice and self-reflection to deepen understanding of MI. We'll explore the learning model of their book, its practical modules, and hear behind-the-scenes stories from its creation. Plus, we'll dive into how compassion plays a pivotal role in the MI spirit. Stay tuned for an inspiring conversation!
Dr David Rosengren is a clinical psychologist and author of the well-known book Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook. He has extensive experience in training, research, and practice focused on addiction, mental health, and other behavioural interventions. He is also affiliated with the Prevention Research Institute, where he promotes evidence-based training.
Dr Lynne Johnston is a consultant clinical psychologist specialising in health and medical psychology. She has a strong academic background, including two doctorates, and has been involved in MI training and supervision since 1997. She is currently collaborating with Rosengren on the book Motivational Interviewing from the Inside Out, which focuses on self-practice and self-reflection in MI training,
Dr Charlotte Hilton is a Chartered Psychologist in the UK with expertise in health psychology, integrated care, and elite sport. She partners with the NHS and uses her experience to deliver impactful research and training. Charlotte is a leading Motivational Interviewing trainer, tailoring sessions for healthcare, leadership, and sport. Her work highlights evidence-based practice, self-reflection, and improved organisational communication.
TIME STAMPS:
00:00 Introduction and Movember Shoutout
00:21 Meet the Guests: Experts in Motivational Interviewing
02:19 Inside Out Learning Model
05:28 Exploring the Book's Modules and Learning Models
08:07 Practical Applications and Real Play vs Role Play
11:17 Book Structure and Self Practice, Self Reflection
20:46 Challenges and Joys of Collaboration
23:01 Ensuring Safety and Managing Vulnerability
29:03 Empathy and Compassion in Self Practice
33:49 Envisioning vs Empowerment in MI
40:34 Feedback and Future Directions
48:39 Personal Reflections and Takeaways
01:00:21 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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LINKS:
Experiencing Motivational Interviewing from the Inside Out (Rosengren, Johnston, & Hilton, 2025)
https://www.guilford.com/books/Experiencing-Motivational-Interviewing-from-the-Inside-Out/Rosengren-Johnston-Hilton/9781462556298?srsltid=AfmBOorAx0ouXjwi-9yROfRUhd9hFTulXboIBEirS98oX87pGuSAC04t
If you would like to learn more about compassion focused therapy, you can find Dr Stan Steindl's book The Gifts of Compassion here:
https://www.amazon.com.au/Gifts-Compassion-understand-overcome-suffering/dp/1925644480
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