In this powerful clip from "Black Out with Ian & Rashad," your hosts Ian Dunlap and Rashad Bilal break down a viral church moment that’s grabbed the internet’s attention—a pastor publicly shaming a woman for her $1,200 offering, demanding $2,000, even as her child stood by her side. Ian and Rashad get real about the impact these moments have on the Black church community, especially when it comes to trust, financial responsibility, and the treatment of women and children.

Ian shares just how much could be built if church funds were invested for the people’s benefit, not just for building funds, and highlights why he feels many young people have left the church. Rashad weighs in on the importance of religion for providing community and structure, but warns about becoming “drunk off religious Kool Aid”—giving away life savings in search of false promises.

This thoughtful discussion brings up hard questions: How should church leaders truly serve their congregation? Is it fair to publicly shame members for their gifts? And where should we draw the line to protect common sense within faith traditions?

If you’ve ever wondered why “market Mondays is my secular sermon” for Ian, or you want honest talk about church, investments, and safeguarding your family’s future, this is the clip for you!

Drop your thoughts in the comments below—have you ever witnessed moments like this in your community? Do you think churches should invest more in their members? Let’s talk about respect, responsibility, and change.

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