In this episode, Hannah is once again joined by Murray Shanahan, Professor of Cognitive Robotics at Imperial College London and Principal Scientist at Google DeepMind, for a philosophical deep dive on AI. They explore everything from consciousness and metacognition in animals, to symbolic AI and neural networks. Murray also shares insights into his involvement with the film 'Ex Machina' and discusses the idea of reasoning, anthropomorphism, and the future of AI.

Further reading / listening: 

• Toward the future, S1 Ep 7: https://youtu.be/yf31XT1G1RQ?si=6mAEsQhKwKPWk9oH

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Thanks to everyone who made this possible, including but not limited to: 

• Presenter: Professor Hannah Fry
• Series Producer: Dan Hardoon
• Editor: Rami Tzabar
• Commissioner & Producer: Emma Yousif
• Music composition: Eleni Shaw
• Audio engineer: Richard Courtice
• Production Manager: Dan Lazard
• Video Director: Bernardo Resende
• Video Editor: Alex Baro Cayetano, Bilal Merhi
• Audio Engineer: Richard Courtice
• Camera and Lighting Operator: Robert Messere
• Production Coordination: Zoey Roberts, Sarah Ellen Morton
• Visual Identity and Design: Rob Ashley
• Commissioned by Google DeepMind

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