Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take

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  • How can education keep te reo alive and thriving?

    For the the final episode in our third season, Stacey is joined by Massey's Te Rina Krystal Warren and Rawiri Wright, tumuaki of Te Kura Kaupapa Māori o Ngā Mokopuna, for a galvanising kōrero about the state of te reo Māori education in 2022. With this year marking 50 years since the presentation of the Māori language petition to parliament, are we moving in the right direction? And what needs to be done to ensure that necessary progress continues to be made?

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    51 min
  • What do workers really need?

    These days much is made of the importance of workplace wellbeing, but are employers actually focussing on what's important? On this episode, Stacey is joined by Zoe Brownlie from Massey University and Rachel Mackintosh from E tū to discuss what workers really need, what's actually being done, and what changes they'd like to see across our whole employment landscape in the post-pandemic era

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    37 min
  • Taking cybersecurity seriously

    As we increase our dependence on devices, and online scams become more sophisticated, New Zealanders are at serious risk of devastating cybersecurity breaches. Join Stacey as she talks to Massey University Associate Professor Julian Jang-Jaccard and SafeStack Academy founder Laura Bell Main about how safe our data really is and the real world consequences of compromised security. Plus advice from the experts on simple steps to help keep you and your data safe online.

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    35 min
  • The problem with literacy

    What's gone wrong with our literacy approach in Aotearoa, and how can we create better outcomes for our learners? To kick off our new season, we have a challenging but optimistic discussion about education in Aotearoa. For this kōrero, host Stacey Morrison is joined by Massey University's Dr Christine Braid and co-principals of Te Kura o Takaro, Helena Baker and Josie Woon.

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    42 min
  • The future of food supply

    For the final episode in the second season of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take, we examine the practices and processes that govern our modern food systems, from paddock to plate (and often, to the world). Hosted as always by Stacey Morrison, our guests for this episode are Julian Heyes of Massey University and Veronica Shale of Fair Food NZ. The episode’s kōrero spans everything from how produce exports became our primary sector’s bread and butter (and the perhaps-surprisingly small footprint of Aotearoa in the broader international market) to the reasons for – and potential solutions to – the skyrocketing rates of food insecurity that we’ve seen locally.

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    37 min
  • Making sense of money

    No matter how much of it we have, how we make it or how we feel about its role in our lives and societies, few topics have such universal relevance in the modern world as money. In this episode, Stacey Morrison is joined by Dr Pushpa Wood and Kendall Flutey as we seek to find out how deep our collective knowledge of our financial system actually goes – from its origins to its current state to its still somewhat unpredictable future – and whether our entire system of exchange could do with a reset.

    Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take is produced in paid partnership with Massey University.

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    36 min
  • Can local knowledge lead our climate action?

    Host Stacey Morrison is joined by Dr Libby Liggins (senior lecturer in ecology, Massey University) and Kera Sherwood O'Regan for a kōrero around climate change. Together they discuss how climate change is affecting our oceans, and how better incorporating local and indigenous perspectives can help us to mitigate its impacts today, tomorrow and deep into the future.

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    33 min
  • What does an inclusive language sound like?

    In this first episode of our second season, host Stacey Morrison is joined by Julia de Bres (senior lecturer in linguistics, Massey University) and Te Ahi Wi-Hongi (Gender Minorities Aotearoa), for a thoughtful and sensitive kōrero about the role that our language can play in fostering a more inclusive society. The three discuss shifting attitudes towards inclusivity, how a more thoughtful approach can help us move past colonial ideals, and whether they believe the future of our language is in good hands.

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    32 min
  • Rewriting Our Approach to Mental Health

    Content warning: this episode contains extensive discussions of mental health, including brief mentions of suicide and abuse.


    It goes without saying that New Zealand’s approach to mental health has evolved significantly over the past few decades. It’s taken considerable effort from successive governments, non-government organisations and private enterprises alike to get us to where we are now, but have we yet moved far enough? In the fifth episode of Conversations That Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take, we take a deep dive into mental health in this country, looking at where the system’s succeeding, where it’s failing, and what we could collectively gain from refocusing our efforts.


    On this episode, produced by The Spinoff in partnership with Massey University, our host Stacey Morrison is joined from Palmerston North by Massey University’s Dr Kirsty Ross, and in our Morningside studio by writer and award-winning journalist Jehan Casinader.


    If you’re in need of help, a list of accessible mental health resources available in Aotearoa can be found here.

    Need to talk? Free call or text 1737 any time for support from a trained counsellor (New Zealand only)

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    36 min
  • How Can Mātauranga Māori Shape Our Future?

    On this episode, host Stacey Morrison is joined by Massey University professor Dr Krushil Watene and Alex Hawea of Auckland Council's Southern Initiative for a warm, wide-ranging and insightful discussion about how Aotearoa could (and should) look to mātauranga Māori for guidance going forward. We've made great strides towards biculturalism over the last few decades, but does the change we've seen really represent a genuine incorporation of principles, or are we still looking at something closer to glorified lip service? And what can the modern workplace learn from the marae kitchen? Presented in partnership with Massey University.

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    35 min

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Produced in collaboration by Massey University and The Spinoff, Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take offers thought-provoking perspectives on the issues shaping Aotearoa and te aō whānui.…

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