Produced in partnership with Massey University and again hosted by experienced broadcaster Stacey Morrison, this episode of Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take sees Massey University Professor Richard Shaw joined by academic researcher and science communication specialist Dr Jess Berentson-Shaw, for a kōrero that spans everything from the surprising history of misinformation and disinformation in Aotearoa to how we as individuals can act in stopping its spread – as well as what we should be asking of our elected officials to achieve the same.

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In this second episode, guest host Leonie Hayden is joined by Massey University Associate Professor Chris Wilkins and Selah Hart, CEO of Hāpai te Hauora. Together they take a deep dive into the detail of New Zealand's upcoming cannabis referendum, covering not only the particulars of what we’re being asked to vote on this October, but also the potential implications of either outcome, as well as what our guests see as the most critical downstream factors for consideration should the referendum pass.

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For our first episode, Stacey is joined by Massey University Professor Christoph Schumacher (calling in from Heidelberg, Germany) and The Spinoff's Justin Latif to discuss the differences between equality and equity, which of the two we should be trying to achieve, and how education can help us get there. From government interventions and reshaped curriculums to kaupapa Māori educational approaches, this thoughtful kōrero suggests a range of potential solutions to one of our largest and most important societal challenges.

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Conversations that Count – Ngā Kōrero Whai Take offers thought-provoking perspectives on the issues shaping Aotearoa and te ao whānui. Join host Stacey Morrison as she speaks with Massey University academics and expert guests, turning a unique lens on a wide range of subjects. New episodes released monthly.

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