Create a New Tomorrow

I am here with Glenda sparrow a certified primal health coach who specializes in helping clients who are stressed, depressed, and anxious. by natural foods approach, combined with movement, mindset, and sleep here is a glimpse of the episode hope you enjoy. Hear it live on Monday at 6 Am for the full episode in your favorite podcast app.

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Create a fundamental change in the global community from a strictly reactive system of medicine that focuses on symptom and emergency treatment to a proactive system based on whole-being health as well as illness and injury prevention. Personally teach and influence at least one million people.

We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.

We Help corporations by solving the most costly problems they have with Productivity and Health Care while creating a culture that thrives on accomplishment and community.

We help organizations think outside of the box and gain tools that allow them to be nimble and strong as tides and markets shift.

We Up level the skills and tools of other practitioners by providing them continuing education that actually leads to greater success and standing in the business community.

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Glenda Sparrow 0:00  

Yeah, you know, ideally we would be able to keep people well and get people to understand how lifestyle behaviors can prevent them from getting diseases and from getting sicknesses or ailments or you know, whatever the case may be. And if you can, get them to understand that and start making those lifestyle changes and behavioral changes now, then they will feel better

Today I am here with Matt Phillips, an elite athlete who train NAVY, athletes and many more, we are going to talk about why he chose mental toughness in his strategy of training, here is the Highlights of the episode hope you enjoy. Listen to the full episode in your favorite podcast app.

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Create a fundamental change in the global community from a strictly reactive system of medicine that focuses on symptom and emergency treatment to a proactive system based on whole-being health as well as illness and injury prevention. Personally teach and influence at least one million people.

We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.

We Help corporations by solving the most costly problems they have with Productivity and Health Care while creating a culture that thrives on accomplishment and community.

We help organizations think outside of the box and gain tools that allow them to be nimble and strong as tides and markets shift.

We Up level the skills and tools of other practitioners by providing them continuing education that actually leads to greater success and standing in the business community.

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Ari Gronich 0:07  

Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. And here I have with me, Matt Phillips, this guy has trained amazing athletes besides being an elite athlete himself, he has trained, just amazing athletes in performance, business mental toughness. He's an expert and founder of CEO of pro athlete advantage. And, you know, this is somebody who has trained with navy seals, with military with elite athletes. And I just want to, you know, preface this by saying mental toughness is so important, Matt, why is mental toughness, kind of the area that you decided to, to focus on?

Matt Phillips 0:56  

It's interesting, first of all, thanks for having me, man. It's great to reconnect. This is this is gonna be a blast. But it's interesting, as I look back at my athletic career, and to your point, I was fortunate to play for a high level on division one, college baseball professionally overseas, I went into the corporate world and have lived, you know, around the world working for Fortune 1000 companies, I've watched my own business over, gosh, nine years ago now. And what I've consistently seen as you progress in these different organizations, right, even sports and organization as you progress in these different areas, the one true differentiator, and every one of those that was consistent across the whole thing, was this concept of mental toughness. That's what's going on in between the years that really separates, you know, to steal the gym causing the good from the great, right, it's, it separates the people who are just okay at their sport, okay, at their job, to the ones that just really excel. That was the one differentiator I saw, you know, it all comes down to the way you think the way you act way treat yourself that mental toughness. That's why I get so fired up about what I do.

Ari Gronich 2:04  

Yeah, you know, absolutely. I had, as you know, could Davis Robinson and, and Dominic Arnold, both our Olympic World Champion, I mean, top of the game top top top of the game. And one of the things that I asked Dominic was, what was the difference? He broke the world record. And he doesn't like to talk about breaking the world record, because it was the same race, he broke the world record about a like, I mean, like a fraction, not even a 10th of a second, I think it was less than a 10th of a second. I mean, the level of closeness in those two athletes. So the skill set wasn't the issue. Right. So I always I asked him about what what was the thing? And he's he said, You know, I was running down. And I did one minor thing.

Matt Phillips 3:03  

Yes. Oh,

Ari Gronich 3:05  

and had my had I had I pulled back that form just a little bit. It would have been there. But

Matt Phillips 3:11  

yes,

Ari Gronich 3:12  

you know, so talk about that, that that 10 second difference between the best in the world, and somebody who's probably not going to be remembered.

Matt Phillips 3:21  

It was interesting, because when you were talking about like the 10th of a second, I remember I did an interview for my podcast with a guy named Mark Allen and I always find this. I love telling a story. ESPN named him the greatest endurance athlete of all time. It was interesting though, because at one point in his career, he was winning every track on known to known demand, right was winning everything. He's got a record of winning 21 in a row. But every year he would go to the big one in Kona, Hawaii, I'm sure everyone's watched.

a VC or whatever. But they do that recap of you know, the Iron Man track on like, what the most difficult races in the world and six years in a row, he lost, right? He would get anywhere from six, it was second to fifth place. And it bothered him so much that he was actually not contemplating not going back. I mean, this is the guy. He's literally He's like, Man, I'm winning everything. Like off the island, and I go to the island, and I'm not winning, and I couldn't figure it out. And he decided to give it one more chance to go back one more chance. He rattled off six wins in a row. Right? So we lost six, and then one, six. So I asked him, I said, Mark, what happened between race six and race seven, because that's a substantial shift and change right there. What happened? And he said it was one small thing. One mindset shift that I had. And this is what I think is so powerful, like in all of our lives, it takes we think it's this massive change already right within you know, a couple Quickly rethink everything and retrain a different way. And we work our business. It's like, no, it's, I bet one small thing that you need to make. And he says, when he reflected back those first six races, his thought process was 100% kind of caught up in how his competitors were training, and how they were going to approach the race. He decided between race six and seven, that he's going to completely ignore his opponents. And he's going to train to the best of his ability. And when he shows up that day, he's gonna swim, his best swim, he's gonna bike his Best Buy, he's gonna run his best run, and he's gonna let the results happen as they want to. But he knows if he shows up his best giving 100% of what he has, at every moment in that race, that probably good things will happen. That one mindset shift, Ari was six, and started winning, and now set a record for winning six of the Iron Man six rounds in a row, another record, it's that one shift in his mind. And for Mark, it was the fact of like, stop looking at others and look at myself.

Ari Gronich 6:07  

I was training with Mike Hungerford for quite a while. And what I would ask her is, if she felt like, the issues that she was seeing with injuries, and with, you know, pain, and with cramping, and all those things that she would see on a regular basis, if any of that happened to the person who won? And she would say inevitably, unequivocally, no, that when they won, all their pain had left their body. That didn't mean that the next day they weren't feeling okay. right moment. You know, the pain was gone. The the trial had lifted. But you know, the idea is that when when your mindset is on that win the pain goes away, so let's relate that took away from athletics a little bit, too to life in general. Are you living your best life? day in and day out? And if not, from a mental toughness perspective? Why not? Why do people not live their best life? Every single day? What What is? What's the block the obstacle for that?

Matt Phillips 7:34  

Yeah, at its basic level, it's, it's the brain doing its job, right, because the brain is up. And there's all sorts of neuroscience out there. But it talks about the ancient part of our brain, which is, you know, 2 million years old, and its entire job is back when we're cavemen and cave women, to protect us at all costs, right? So a saber toothed Tiger is going to jump out, how do I fee or flee or fight or whatever I need to, but the brain is constantly looking for threats around us. And we first have to be able to recognize and just say it out loud, okay, I know, my brain does that. Because we have to start creating a different awareness of the way our brain works and the power within and the way we can kind of manipulate it and change it to open up the possibilities instead of constantly looking for the things that are or going wrong, the things that are threats, which is going to hold us back.

Ari Gronich 8:31  

Right. So let's talk a little bit about the brain and how that works. Let's, let's say, just as a scenario, you're the guy that is motivated by the naysayers and I'm the guy that's not, you know, motivated by the the positive affirmations that people are sending me, right? Yes. There's two different kinds of brains and reactions and responding to stimulus. Right. So most people that I've seen, tend to be more motivated by the naysayers than they are by the positive, it's harder for people to accept a compliment than it is to accept the negative and then try to even turn that negative into a positive but get what's the science behind that the neuroscience behind that?

Matt Phillips 9:29  

Yeah, it's so it's all the same, right? So we take whatever information we have, we internalize it, we attach an emotion to it. And then some sort of action happens from that, or inaction from that. And so to your point, yes, like we're all motivated by different things, right. I'm a very positive guy. I love you know, when people compliment you know what I do, I'm a people pleaser as well. Just like you But one of my biggest fears, ultimately, when you boil it down, I'm not scared of failure, like I, it is what it is I play the game based on failure, right? I mean, you, you get a hit three out of 10 times, which means you fail seven out of 10 times, you could be in the Hall of Fame. If you're playing in the major leagues, right? You're, you're doing pretty well, you're counting your money and life is in theory. Good. So it's not the fear of failure, but it's the and this is where truthfulness comes in like with yourself, right? Having integrity with yourself, like what are you really scared of? For me? It's like what other people say, and what they're going to think. Right? So if I'm doing well, they're going to be really behind me if I'm doing poorly. And this is what you see in sports, too. Right? You see, all the naysayers come out?

Ari Gronich 10:44  

Yeah, you know, I just I just want to emphasize one point here, just because I'm a science geek and a therapist. And that's what I do is when you're doing those breaths, if you're breathing both in and out your nose, you'll shut your adrenal glands down and allow them to relax, you'll shut down cortisol levels, you'll allow your body to go into more of a sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system. Yeah. If you breathe through your mouth, when you're in that state, and this is a trick for athletes as well, if they're running a long marathon to breathe through their nose versus breathing out, they're out and in their mouth, is you turn on cortisol, you turn on the adrenal glands. And that can cause the anxiety to get higher. That's why when you see people in there, it's all always through their, their mouth that the executive is showing. And then if you turn that inward, breathe through your nose, you'll shut the adrenal glands down, much, much faster, and allow your body to go into that response of frontal cortex versus reptilian brain fighter.

Matt Phillips 12:04  

Yes. That's a great point. Yeah, cuz it's slow call controlled breaths, right, which you have the control if you choose to take it. So it's a huge, it's a huge piece that again, we feel like we're under threat, like we were saying the US, you know, first world problems, right? First of all problems, like didn't make the sale, there's big contract or like AI is all these like funny terms, but they're still perceived threats. So whether you're the first world and you live in in the US or whatever, it's still a perceived threat. So

the way you control that though, that pulls you back. Now I can make a proper decision. So it's just understanding the power you have within you.

Ari Gronich 12:50  

My discontentment right now with influencers, impactors, people who are making a stand for something is that they're doing so in a way that works for them. And not necessarily in a way that works for the people that they're trying to impact. Right? Yes. And so when, when I look at, at my career, as a, you know, Olympic Paralympic Pro, athlete, trainer, you know, therapist, I'm working on their bodies, I'm working on their minds, I'm working on their nutrition, I'm working on all kinds of things. But the one thing that that I always did, always had to do if I wanted to get the results that I wanted to get as I had to do a really thorough client intake, a really thorough one, because I had to find out exactly who this person was, that was in front of me, not just the stats that they had not just their data, but I had to know this, these people, if I wanted to get the results, that meant the difference between first place and last place. That meant it's even between first place and fourth place, which is even more, you know, disconcerting for some Yes, we had we had to get results. If we didn't get results. And I say this a lot. If we didn't get results, I didn't have a job. I did business and people don't seem to get the results that I would like to see impactors, right, I look at somebody and I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm not going to call him out but I'm going to say this person impacts 10s of thousands of people sometimes at once, right in big rooms. And 90 something percent of the people that are there will be motivated for two to three weeks. And then will need to either go back to another event to continue their motivation. Or they fall, fall off about maybe 10% of those people, maybe 5% of the people take the actionable steps, spend six months, maybe even a year doing the things that they're being told, and then they fall off. And then maybe the other 4%, right? Yep, great long term change. And then maybe 1% is going to be the biggest, you know, next new thing, right? So I'm making up these numbers. Obviously, this is this is my

Matt Phillips 15:33  

new year's resolutions. That's Yeah, absolutely key god,

Ari Gronich 15:36  

it's my belief in numbers. But this is a basic premise. So I want to change that. Those numbers. So actually, I've been developing a mastermind course, that I'm designing the same way I as I designed a athlete going from an injury to a gold medal or World Championship this, because everybody's starting with some kind of injury. Yes, some kind of mental emotional trauma, injury, something that and so I figured, if I designed this in a certain way, then I'm going to get 90% having the results, not 90% not having the results, right, I'm going to switch flip the switch on it, I'm just have, there's still going to be 10% of the people that, you know, you just can't help your might not be the right person for, right. But the idea is, is to design things that work for the majority versus the minority. So I get pissed off a bit. Because I see them taking everybody's money and lowering the value. Because they're they're charging a lot and they're getting very poor results, in many cases. Yeah. And so the value goes down, even though the price is going up. And then somebody like me comes along, or somebody like you comes along, and these massive skills, right? Yes, to get more of the 90% and get better results. And though and we're the ones typically, who Well, we may not necessarily be struggling, but we're not the ones that are on stage. So I want to kind of flip the switch on on this a little bit and find out both how we can impact these impactors more so that they are really designing to get better results corporations designing to get results. Governments designing to get results systems in general design results. How do we how do we switch this so that I can be calmer?

Matt Phillips 17:48  

Yeah. Well, and Ari it's funny like my as you were talking about that. My two thoughts one is like why Why are you following these people? You don't have to answer this is more rhetorical. In let me talk about that for a minute. Because we spend, we only have so much energy during the day, right? So we wake up with a certain amount of energy. And that's how we go to sleep at night because we've expended the energy and need to recharge, right. So we've got these, I don't know call little coins in a piggy bank, right? And we only got so many withdrawals from the piggy bank before pig needs to go to sleep again. Well, we spend so much of our time expending energy on things that really don't matter. So that's why my first question of like, when we start getting heated and like, like, I don't know, too excited about that stuff, right? I get I've been there. But it's like, why are they doing well or whatever. But again, now now we're focusing all of our attention and energy on someone else, that we have zero influence over who they have made their choice and we're putting expectations on those people, but you should be doing this you should be having a different influence there. That's not our problem. That's not our choice. That is their choice to wake up and make that decision for themselves every day.

Today I am here with Matt Phillips, an elite athlete who train NAVY, athletes, and many more, we are going to talk about why he chose mental toughness in his strategy of training, here is the full episode hope you enjoy. Listen to your favorite podcast app.

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Create a fundamental change in the global community from a strictly reactive system of medicine that focuses on symptom and emergency treatment to a proactive system based on whole-being health as well as illness and injury prevention. Personally teach and influence at least one million people.

We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.

We Help corporations by solving the most costly problems they have with Productivity and Health Care while creating a culture that thrives on accomplishment and community.

We help organizations think outside of the box and gain tools that allow them to be nimble and strong as tides and markets shift.

We Up level the skills and tools of other practitioners by providing them continuing education that actually leads to greater success and standing in the business community.

#Podcast #health #Education #CreateANewTomorrow

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Ari Gronich 0:01  

Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results. We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians Paralympians a list actors in fortune 1000 companies, if I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who control the system wants to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are joining me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as I chat with industry experts, elite athletes, thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree, and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down. I'm Ari Gronich and this is create a new tomorrow podcast.

Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow. I'm your host Ari Gronich. And here I have with me, Matt Phillips, this guy has trained amazing athletes besides being an elite athlete himself, he is trained in just amazing athletes in performance, business mental toughness. He's an expert and founder of CEO of pro athlete advantage. And, you know, this is somebody who has trained with navy seals, with military with elite athletes. And I just want to you know, preface this by saying mental toughness is so important. Matt, Why is mental toughness, kind of the area that you decided to focus on?

Matt Phillips 1:54  

It's interesting, if First of all, thanks for having me, man, it's great to reconnect. This is this is gonna be a blast. But it's interesting, as I look back at my athletic career, and to your point, I was fortunate to play in front of high level division one college baseball professionally overseas, I went into the corporate world and have lived, you know, around the world working for Fortune 500 companies, I've watched my own business over, gosh, nine years ago now. And what I've consistently seen as you progress in these different organizations, right, even sports and organization as you progress in these different areas, the one true differentiator, and every one of those there was consistent across the whole thing was this concept of mental toughness. It's what's going on in between the years that really separates, you know, to steal the Jim Collins thing, the good from the great, right, it's, it separates the people who are just okay at their sport, okay, at their job, to the ones that just really excel. That was the one differentiator I saw, you know, when you look at sports, and you see these individuals get to the highest level, yes, there's absolute physical, like piece to that, right, you have to have a skill set physically to be able to play baseball, or hit a baseball or do all that stuff. But again, when you get to these higher levels, the I don't know, just the competition and skill set of physically, it's pretty, it's pretty comparable. Sure you have like the bronze in the world who are just like, in a positive way just freaks in nature, right. But on a consistent basis, it's like they all can hit a ball, right? You're at that level. So it all comes down to the way you think the way you act way treat yourself that mental toughness. That's why I get so fired up about what I do.

Ari Gronich 3:38  

Yeah, you know, absolutely. I had, as you know, could Davis Robinson and and Dominic Arnold, both our Olympic World Champion, I mean, top of the game, top top top of the game. And one of the things that I asked Dominic was, what was the difference? He broke the world record. And he doesn't like to talk about breaking the world record, because it was the same race. He broke the world record about a like, I mean, like a fraction, not even a 10th of a second. I think it was less than a 10th of a second.

Matt Phillips 4:14  

Yes.

Ari Gronich 4:15  

Before, you know, before the guy who broke the record, right, or am I who broke the record. So I mean, the level of closeness in those two athletes both hundred 10 meter hurdlers right rolling down the strip, and they are less than a 10th of a second one behind the other. So the skill set wasn't the issue. Right. So I always I asked him about what what was the thing? And he's he said, You know, I was running down and I did one minor thing. Yes. Oh, and had my hands Had I pulled back that form just a little bit? It would have been there. But yes, you know, so talk about that 10 second difference between the best in the world and somebody who's probably not going to be remembered?

Matt Phillips 5:16  

Yeah, it's, it's fascinating when you think about it, right? Because I think this is true in every area of life, right? relationships, business, sports, it all comes down to, you know, people call it luck, or whatever. I mean, I believe luck doesn't really exist, right? It's all about preparation, then then an opportunity presents itself and you take advantage of it right and sink into it and kind of go into that next level of performance, which we all can tap into, we just sometimes have to let it go. Right, let loose and let it take over. And it was interesting, because when you were talking about like the 10th of a second, I remember I did an interview for my podcast with a guy named Mark Allen and I always find this. I love telling the story. But do you know who Mark Allen is by chance? Yep. Okay, so most of your listeners, I guarantee will not know who Mark Allen is. And he will. Obviously they want this. ESPN named him the greatest endurance athlete of all time. Okay, that's a pretty cool thing. So he is a triathlete. He now does speaking and coaching of triathletes and businesses, all stuff. So it was interesting though, because at one point in his career, he was winning every track on known to known demand, right was winning everything. He's got a record of winning 21 in a row. But every year he would go to the big one in Kona, Hawaii, I'm sure everyone's watched on an on an Iron Man, NBC or whatever. But they do that recap of, you know, the Iron Man track on, like one of the most difficult races in the world. And six years in a row, he lost, right, he would get anywhere from exciting, he was second to fifth place. And it bothered him so much that he was actually not contemplating not going back. I mean, this is the guy. He's literally He's like, Man, I'm winning everything. Like off the island, and I go to the island, and I'm not winning, and I couldn't figure it out. And he decided to give it one more chance to go back one more chance right to go back to the Big Island. He thought maybe I just got the bed. I don't know, bad vibes on the island, I don't know. But his friends and teammates convinced him to go back one more time. And he rattled off six wins in a row. Right? So we lost six, and then one, six. And so I asked him, I said, Mark, I'm like what happened between race six and race seven. Because that's a substantial shift and change right? There. What happened? And he said, it was one small thing. One mindset shift that I had. And this is what I think is so powerful, like in all of our lives, it takes, we think it's this massive change already, right? The women, you know, completely rethink everything and retrain a different way. And we work our business. It's like, no, it's, I bet one small thing that you need to make. And he says, when he reflected back those first six races, his thought process was 100% kind of caught up in how his competitors were training, and how they're going to approach the race.

He decided between race six and seven, that he's going to completely ignore his opponents. And he's going to train to the best of his ability. And when he shows up that day, he's gonna swim his best swim, he's gonna bike his Best Buy, he's gonna run his best run, and he's gonna let the results happen as they want to, but he knows if he shows up his best giving 100% of what he has at every moment in that race, that probably good things will happen. That one mindset shift already lost six, and started winning. And now set a record for winning six of the Iron Man conas in a row, another record. So again, it's when we talk about you know that that 10th of a second we talk about like, going from, you know, getting second place, and all of a sudden, now you're in first place. It's that one shift in his mind. And for Mark, it was the fact of like, stop looking at others and look at myself. And that's where when he told that story, it resonated so well with me of like, it really made me look in the mirror honestly, like, am I showing my best self today? Am I doing the things that I know I need to do? Because we all know what we need to do. But are we doing them? Are we when we look in the mirror at the end of the day? Are we saying yes I utilize my you know, God given gifts and skills to their fullest today I did the things I said I was going to do. I had integrity with myself. That's what makes all the difference in the world. So we could go 15,000 different directions with this. But that really reminded me that story of Mark Allen when we talked about that 10th of a second

Ari Gronich 10:00  

That is a That's awesome. Yeah. You know, I was training with Mike Hungerford for quite a while. I don't know if you know who that is. But yeah, Mike Hungerford was the head of all IronMan, for like 40 years. I mean, he had pretty much consulted every president since Kennedy. Her sports and therapy division, right. And I was training with her to take over all of her duties for the Ironman, when, when she passed away. And what I would ask her is, if she felt like, the issues that she was seeing with injuries, and with, you know, pain and with cramping, and all those things that she would see on a regular basis, if any of that happened to the person who won. That was the question I would ask, is the person who's winning, experiencing cramping at the end of their race, when they're done, they might have in the middle, but when they're done, right, and she would say, inevitably, and unequivocally know, that when they won all their pain had left their body that didn't mean that the next day they weren't feeling right moment. You know, the pain was gone. The the trial had lifted. And it was really fascinating to me, because, you know, I've been into the Olympics, I've been to the Paralympics, my favorite actually is the Paralympics be because they, they win gold medals, regularly. And World Championships, and they beat the Olympic athletes, and they beat the world records regularly. But they do so with such a level of humility and humbleness because of their condition that, you know, I tell the Olympic athletes, I'm like, you should be as humble as your Paralympic buddies, because you're not so great. Yes, I think you are. But I think just motivates the more but you know, the idea is that when when your mindset is on, that when the pain goes away, when your mindset is on, you know, for your business, the results that you're getting, the pain goes away, typically. And so let's relate that to away from athletics a little bit. To to life in general. Are you living your best life? day in and day out? And if not, from a mental toughness perspective? Why not? Why do people not live their best life? Every single day? What is? What's the block the obstacle for that?

Matt Phillips 13:13  

Yeah, at its basic level, it's, it's the brain doing its job, right? Because the brain is set up. And there's all sorts of neuroscience out there. But it talks about the, the ancient part of our brain, which is, you know, 2 million years old, and its entire job is back when we're cavemen and cave women to protect us at all costs, right? So a saber toothed Tiger is going to jump out, how do I fee or flee or fight or whatever I need to, but the brain is constantly looking for threats around us. And we first have to be able to recognize and just say it out loud, okay, I know my brain does that. Because we have to start creating a different awareness of the way our brain works and the power within and the way we can kind of manipulate it and change it to open up the possibilities instead of constantly looking for the things that are going wrong. The things that are threats, which is going to hold us back, right. So when you're when we perceive something as a threat. So in business, I mean even doing this already, right? So you decided to start this podcast. Awesome, right? Well, I imagine at some point, there was this little bit of fear cropping up. Maybe not you, right? Your senior season, guys like you, you get it. But I'm sure at some point, you were like, Oh my gosh, like are people going to listen to this? How do I reach all the people? What are they going to say? What if I get a bad comment? Like, these are some of the thoughts that start cropping up right and I can say this for myself because my podcasts I was like, I had those same thoughts right. But there's a recognition Why do I move forward? Or do I just say no and not start? And the agent part of your brain is saying stop, because that could be threatening someone could say something bad about you your their perception of you could be Horrible, you're going to feel bad about yourself. This is a threat, please stop. But when we start recognizing that, wait a minute, that's just a piece of data as a piece of information. Now, how do I retrain my brain to say, Oh, I'm going to go and do it anyway. And I'm going to step into that fear. And I'm going to all these different tools that I teach for surround myself with the right people and use this tool or that tool to continue taking a step forward and just record an intro for the podcast, name it, research, how to even set one up, right, if I'm going to take these little steps forward and start creating that momentum to call that kind of a major part of my brain so I can move forward.

Ari Gronich 15:39  

Yeah, you know, I have all of those things, right. And what I did is I spent a whole lot of money to take a course, to teach myself how to do podcasts, right. And then I also set up in my brain that because this is called create a new tomorrow, it inevitably will cause some controversy, I am hoping that it causes some controversy, I am hoping that people have negative things to say of it and start conversations about what we're talking about here. Because if we can adjust the status quo just a little bit, and then adjusted again, and then adjusted again. Now all of a sudden, we're making incremental changes, and we're creating a new tomorrow. And so I had to set up in my brain because I am a people pleaser. And you know, it's funny, because you're talking about Mark Allen. And here's my thing, I was a baseball player growing up, I had an 80 mile an hour fastball in Little League. I was I played for eight years, and I was extremely good. I could switch hit I was very, very good. Except for when we had people in the audience, meaning people in the stands. Yes, all of a sudden, I couldn't hit a thing. All sudden, I couldn't get that throw, you know, perfect. Like I had a shotgun from as a catcher, just in baseline on my knees. Yeah, I didn't, I never had to get up off my knees. But during game time, that might have been off by about two feet or so. Right?

Matt Phillips 17:25  

Yes.

Ari Gronich 17:26  

You know, it was it's the thing about being that people pleaser instead of self pleaser, look, wanting to do great. So that people will be proud of you versus you being proud of you. Yes. And that's a really fascinating dichotomy in the brain, how that happens, because we are set for fight or flight. Yes, we're not really, you know, they say that our brain has some motivation and pleasure. But the pleasure side of that motivation can be triggered more by alleviating the pain than going after pleasure. So it's kind of interesting. So let's talk a little bit about that, and how the brain works in order, because the goal of this podcast is to change the world. So we want to give everybody like things that they can do immediately. So and, you know, begin changing their tomorrow. So, you know, let's talk a little bit about what that looks like.

Matt Phillips 18:30  

Yeah, it's interesting. There's so many, there's so many cool parts of the brain. And, you know, this word awareness, right, creating this awareness inside of AI, what are we thinking? What are we saying? And you're 100%? Right? It all starts with this self confidence. Like when I talk about, you know, the kind of model that I use, there's these these five different kind of attributes. So it's competence. So when I when I say when I say mental toughness, right, so first of all, what let's take a step back, when I say that I, you know, I'm on a mission to build, you know, mentally tough business leaders, mentally tough professional athletes, like, fill in the blank, right? The where I always start is like, we have to define what being mentally tough actually means, right? It's, it's, I don't know, it's like being a great leader, right? If I walk in your office bag, be a great leader today or be a better leader today. And then I walk out you're like, what, like, 

Ari Gronich 19:27  

Yeah, what does that mean?

Matt Phillips 19:28  

 to be 1000? Things like, what does that mean? So with mental toughness, there's kind of five elements away I talked about so it's confidence, focus, emotional control, energy, and then consistent action, right. So if I wake up every single day, and I'm confident in myself, I'm focused, I'm emotionally in control. I have the energy I need to perform at a higher level and I'm focused on taking consistent action towards my goals. You're gonna wake up one day saying Holy crap, I just like went past my goal, right? It's just going to happen but the core of it It starts with the confidence piece that you talked about. Everything comes from self belief, watching a podcast, starting a business asking a girl or guy on a date. It's like the simplest things in the world. It starts with that belief in yourself. And so I spend a lot of time there with, with people just becoming aware of your thoughts and the way you speak. Because it gives you amazing insight into what you truly believe about yourself. Right? If you're that kind of person that is constantly discounting themselves and saying, you know, can't take a compliment, right? So you say, Oh, that was a awesome podcast. I had a ton of fun today already. If I say that at the end, and you're like, Yeah, but and then you fill in something else? Well, come on, man, and just say thank you, right, say thank you, except that right, but then we discount ourselves. So it's, the language we use is very crucial. So two things I'll kind of talk about real quick. One is, it's really simple things, right? It's starting to write down what you say and what you think, what's going on in your head. Because, again, the thoughts are powerful, the words we speak are powerful. But unless we actually write down what they are, we're never going to know, right? It's like my wife has a nutrition coaching business. It's awesome. She got feedback from a client just the other day, as a matter of fact, she had him do a food journal, because we all sit there and say, Oh, yeah, I eat pretty well. I, you know, I drink enough water, I do all this stuff off, what do you write it down. And you see it as a piece of data, no judgment, just a piece of data in front of you, it gives you additional information upon which to act. It's really that simple. So the same thing is true of our thoughts and our words, of write them down on a piece of paper. So you can see kind of what you're feeding yourself.

Ari Gronich 21:50  

I just I just want to emphasize before you go on really clearly what you just said to the audience. So audience, if you're listening to this, what he just said, is that, that information is just data. It's not good or bad. It's just information. And I know that some of you who have been on diets and some of you who have been in plans to get healthy, judge yourself for the choices that you're making. And the data that you're looking at, rather than just accepting that this is data. And tomorrow is a different set of data if you make a different set of choices. So I just want to emphasize that because I think a lot of people tend to take data and create a lot of meaning about that data. Right? This is one of the things from landmark and lifespring is we're meaning making machines, and we make meaning out of everything, even if it has no meaning inherently in it, of it of itself. So I just wanted to emphasize that really quickly for the audience keep going.

Matt Phillips 22:56  

That's a key part. Because as soon as we attach an emotion to it, that's where we get in trouble. And that can be positive or negative. Right? Whenever we attach an emotion to some piece of information, that's where we tend to get a lot of trouble in business and relationships and all that as well. Right? We make assumptions we Yeah, so that's a huge, huge piece. So simply writing stuff down is amazing. And then switching it right. Because when you look at the way the brain works,

and again, I'm sure you all

are aware of this, but I want to emphasize it again, like your brain is malleable, we can we can manipulate it, we can change it, we can create different neural pathways, and we can break old neural pathways that aren't serving us anymore, create new ones, they're gonna help, like accelerate us forward and get us to where we want to go in our lives, right? That's my mission, like what you're here, you want to go Here, let me help you bridge that gap. Let's close that time gap, to getting to where you where you want to go. And you can make your brain and there's so much science that we know that we scraped the surface of it so far on the brain. But simply, you know, they've done studies around like negativity versus positivity, and what your cellular activity actually does based on those thoughts. And they can actually see, like when you feed yourself a negative thought over and over and over again, two things happen. One is we're going back to science class. Now, this is great. But we have little cells, right? And they got the nucleus and all that stuff. Well, they have every thought creates a neuropeptide. Right. And so peptides like it's a physical thing. It's an amino acid, it's a protein it's sent from your brain through your bloodstream and your cells grab onto it. Well, there's these little neurons, kind of transmitters that stick out of the cell and grab on to the peptides. And if you send the same type of thought over and over and over again, this this stuff blows me away. It it's amazing how powerful we are. But if you have the same thought positive or negative, over and over and over again, the cell recognized You're continuing to send that. So it creates these kind of grows multiple kind of tentacles that grab more of that thought. And then I can measure and say, if you send negativity, your cells actually slow down your energy level drops based on those thoughts. So I'm a simple guy Ari. But I look at that. And I'm like, Oh, my gosh, like, what do I want to be feeding myself? Right? Is it something that's positive? Is it something where, you know, I want them to accept more of what I'm sending it? Or do I want to continue making the choice, right, because that's, to your point just a minute ago, right, we have a choice, I have a choice of what I send my body, I have a choice of what I say to others, I have a choice to what I say to myself. And if I want to show up with the most energy possible every day, I better be feeding myself. Because that's the basic level of the way we function, I better be setting myself that positivity.

Ari Gronich 25:50  

Right. So we're gonna break this down a little bit deeper for the audience, because, you know, and I'll give you examples for me, I absolutely dislike the concept of affirmations and positive thinking. Because when that's being done, or taught or told, it comes across as very fake, which means that your body recognizes that as a lie, which means that you're you actually go deeper into the negative versus you're saying all these positive things, but your body is going That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie. And all of a sudden, you're you're doing the opposite for yourself. So, you know, a lot of people and a lot of gurus and a lot of the experts in the field says positive thinking do affirmations do, you know, do this stuff and I'm more of like, let's get really down and dirty with why I'm having these negative thoughts to begin with. And I like doing a lot of mirror work, where I'm staring in the mirror, telling myself all of these nasty things until I get to a place that I break down. And I could go, Okay, what was real in that and what isn't real, what's my mind what's not. So I'm actually going to what I consider to be a reality check versus doing this as a Pollyanna kind of thing. So let's get down a little bit so that people get an idea. Because I don't want this to be, you know, let's get motivated, right and think positive. And your whole life will change. Because that has a lot and it hasn't worked for a majority of people.

Matt Phillips 27:43  

It hasn't it, I think there's a couple things. One is, we have to understand, because we're, we're a society based on instant gratification, right, and they've done the marshmallow test in the past and this other study around, you know, $2 versus $1. But looking at instant versus delayed gratification, and we're all looking for the magic pill, me included, we're looking for the magic pill, or the silver bullet, or whatever you want to call it, that I want results, and I want them now and I want them fast. And I think that's where this, like affirmations and positive thinking it gets a bad rap, because I believe in those things. But there's a belief that I have to consistently do them, because it's not going to happen overnight. Right. So that's where I think we get in a lot of trouble. And that's where when I'm talking with different groups and client, as it's like, let's start with the science, I need you to understand the way your brain works First, and why we're really doing this. And and then let's put a plan together. So you consistently apply those things, because it's, it's the compounding effect, right? We we know this from a financial investment perspective, that if I take you know, small bits of interest are small bits of dividends, and I reinvest them in the market, like over time as they grow, I will retire a millionaire at least that's the goal, right? Well, the same thing is true of our health, of pain management of growing a business of, of starting to kind of rewire your brain and and to become that person that that you know you can be. It comes with consistency. It's compounding one little shift in a thought it because the next time you do it, you're building upon that you're building upon that you're building upon that. So it's about consistency. I mean, there's all the studies on habits out there right now, right? And some say it takes 30 days, some days, 60 days, 90 days, 120 days, whatever the number is, if we simply put things in place that we know we can achieve and consistently apply. That's going to get us where we want to go so we don't default back to like oh, this is stupid. Oh, the affirmation didn't work. Well, the affirmation didn't work. Because you did it two times. Like Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, when I When I'm trying to sell a speech or do something like that, I could make two calls. And I might be over two and then I'm like, Well, that doesn't work. Well, is that? Is that really right, Matt? Because you kind of gave up pretty quick, right? They must not like me, they must not like my stuff. No, no. Maybe you just need to pivot maybe to adjust. Maybe you need to look at it as data and information, decide what do you want to do? going forward? Again, no judgment, what do I want to do? So that's where I think when we when we start doing this brain training, right, and this is true of anything. And I always liken it to like, if you're married, or dating someone, and you ask women, would you like a dozen roses once a year or one Rose 12 times a year? For each month? What do you think their answer is? 12 times a year. Right? Although that's true. That's a good point. That's a good point.

Ari Gronich 30:58  

I want the one a month, and then I want it, you know, at least two or three times, I want the 12.

Matt Phillips 31:03  

That's right. That's right. They want it all. But no, but you look at that. Yeah, it's like it. But it's like the women want the consistency, right? So it's that consistent. I love you consistently, not just like once a year and like, then off we go. So when we when we start doing this if we're what that ultimate success. I mean, they'll get a professional athletes sorry. They've got to put up with a lot of different things. A lot of people saying things this is true in business as well. Some naysayers, some people are behind them. But if they consistently train at their sport, and work every single day, that's what that's what's gonna get into the highest level. That's what's gonna give eyes. All

Ari Gronich 31:48  

right, so let's talk a little bit about the brain and how that works. Let's, let's say, just as a scenario, you're the guy that is motivated by the naysayers and I'm the guy that's not, you know, motivated by the the positive affirmations that people are sending me, right? Yes. There's two different kinds of brains and reactions and responding to stimulus. Right. So most people that I've seen, tend to be more motivated by the naysayers than they are by the positive, it's harder for people to accept a compliment than it is to accept the negative, and then try to even turn that negative into a positive but get what's the science behind that the neuroscience behind that?

Matt Phillips 32:45  

Yeah, it's so it's all the same, right? So we take whatever information we have, we internalize it, we attach an emotion to it. And then some sort of action happens from that, or inaction from that. And so to your point, yes. Like we're all motivated by different things, right? I'm a very positive guy. I love you know, when people compliment you know what I do? I'm a people pleaser, as well, just like you. But one of my biggest fears, ultimately, when you boil it down, I'm not scared of failure, like I, it is what it is, I play the game based on failure, right? I mean, you, you get a hit three out of 10 times, which means you fail seven out of 10 times, you could be in the Hall of Fame. If you're playing in the major leagues, right, you're, you're doing pretty well, you're counting your money and life is in theory, good. So it's not the fear of failure, but it's the and this is where truthfulness comes in like with yourself, right? Having integrity with yourself, like what are you really scared of? For me? It's like what other people say, and what they're going to think. Right? So if I'm doing well, they're going to be really behind me if I'm doing poorly, and this is what you see in sports, too, right? You see, all the naysayers come out. And all of a sudden, you're supposed to best friends are now completely against you and hate you because you can't hit a ball for make a sale or whatever. So it's, but it's all the same of like, whether it's a naysayer, whether it's someone positive. It's like how am I internalizing and attaching an emotion to it, which is leading to that thought which led to that action or, or lack of action? And that's where that like awareness, like comes in, right? Because again, if you're scared of that, the brain is going to automatically the reptilian part of your brain is going to say Run, run, run. Just don't don't do anything. Get out of here. You're in big, big trouble. And you can't overcome this right? There's no way I'm here to protect you and go. What's interesting is when we have these like big spikes in emotion, this there's different brainwaves. Have you ever done brainwave training? Like, have your brainwaves monitor? Yeah, it's pretty incredible. So there's, I won't go into it too much. But when you're awake, right, you're in your beta brainwaves are in full force, okay. And there are three levels of beta brainwaves, there's low, medium, high, right, appropriately named. And so throughout the day, you're in these different kind of levels of beta. Well, if you attach like something very emotional to it, and you go into fight or flight response, and that could be at a meeting at work, it could be all these different situations, it could be something bad on social media, somebody says something bad to you, you can be thrown into high beta. And high beta is fight or flight response. What actually happens when you go to high beta is your prefrontal cortex, which is like a logical part of your brain, it actually shuts down. Because all your brain and body are worried about is getting you out of that situation, right, fleeing, freezing, whatever, but it's wants to get you out of that situation. So that's where most people sit, we allow that high beta to kind of control our lives, instead of understanding that we have the power inside us to manipulate our brainwave activity, we can do that, we can actually pull ourselves out of high beta, and to lower our beta to turn our brain basically back on. So we can logically think about a scenario and what action I want to take going forward. So it's simply you taking, you know, five to six deep breaths sounds silly sounds like oh, that won't work, what it's doing, it does work, because it's pulling you out of high beta to a lower beta turning your brain back on so you can make a decision of what you need to do.

Ari Gronich 36:44  

Yeah, you know, I just I just want to emphasize one point here, just because I'm a science geek and therapist, and that's what I do is when you're doing those breaths, if you're breathing both in and out your nose, you'll shut your adrenal glands down and allow them to relax, you'll shut down cortisol levels, you'll allow your body to go into more of a sympathetic parasympathetic nervous system. Yeah. If you breathe through your mouth, when you're in that state, and this is a trick for athletes as well, if they're running a long marathon to breathe through their nose versus breathing out their out and in their mouth, is you turn on cortisol, you turn on the adrenal glands. And that can cause the anxiety to get higher. That's why when you see people in there, it's all always through their their mouth that the anxiety is showing. And then if you turn that inward, breathe through your nose, you'll shut the adrenal glands down, much, much faster, and allow your body to go into that response of frontal cortex versus reptilian brain fighter. 

Matt Phillips 38:04  

Yes. That's a great point. Yeah, cuz it's slow call control breaths, right, which you have the control if you choose to take it. So it's a huge, it's a huge piece that again, we feel like we're under threat, like we were, I say, in the US, you know, first world problems, right? First of all problems, like, didn't make the sale, this big contract or like ay, is all these like funny terms, but they're still perceived threats. So whether you're the you know, first world and you live in, in the US or whatever, it's still perceived threat. So it's the way you control that though, that pulls you back, now I can make a proper decision. So it's just understanding the power you have within you. So the other go ahead or

Ari Gronich 38:53  

so maybe, maybe we'll do this in a minute let you finish what you're what you're saying, but I want to pull this microscope and and make it a little bit more of a macro. You're living in a community, we're living in a town we're living in a city right now, where threats are perceived at a much higher rate. You have people who live in poor neighborhoods, who basically equivalent make that the equivocal value of living in that neighborhood to living in a to being in a war zone. And so if we're, if we're gonna make systemic changes, and create a different response outlet for people, right? More on a macro level, how do we get the people who are living through what they the perception is of a warzone in these poor neighborhoods where they really are threatened with their life on a pretty daily basis. Right? How do we shift that? Because I, you know, I see a lot of people with their judgment hats on, you know, well, they shouldn't be doing it this way. And they shouldn't be doing it that way. And they should be this and they should be that. Right? Yeah, I want to I want to take this back to more of the science and your and your realm of expertise, because this is an issue that can be solved if we can recognize the causation of the root problems for it. And, you know, hopefully fast, not slowly eliminating those causes. And, you know, situation. So let's talk about that macro level a little bit.

Matt Phillips 40:49  

Yeah, we're gonna do some deep stuff. Oh, my gosh, I like it. You know, at its core, it's interesting, because I think what, what started coming up a lot recently, it's all fear based, that we're dealing with right now. Right? So whether it's color of your skin, or your economic status, or social status, or like your belief about a presidential election, like we're all fear, kind of based, right? Because, again, like, because our brains built to protect us. I mean, even with this presidential election coming up, I can't tell you. And I've had to stop myself at certain points being like, if this person wins versus this person wins. What does that do to the economy? From a business perspective? What does that do to the stock market? What does it do to regulation in business? What does it do to access to health care? Or not? Right? So there's all these different scenarios that like I've been going through, I'm sure everyone's going through, and it can fuel like a massive amount of emotion to it, right? So again, we have to constantly, like take that step back. And understand what like what we've talked before, not to repeat, but like, understand the way your brain works, right? And we've got to be able to take a step back, pull ourselves back and back. Okay, wait a minute, I have this choice to look at this as data and information and figure out what can I control in this situation? Right, how can I influence the decision? Yeah, one thing that, you know, we look at everything going on right now, in this crazy world we seem to be living in right now. First of all, it can be crazy or cannot be crazy, right? We can be dealing with a situation and it is what it is. And it's just another bit of adversity that we have to face. And maybe the media has made it way bigger than it has to be, maybe they haven't. But it goes back to like, a understanding of that confidence in yourself of like I've dealt with adversity before. Yes, this looks a little different. It feels a little different. But I've been successful before. So how do I want to deal with this going forward, keeping the creative parts of the brain looking for the opportunities that are out there? It's being able to look at someone and say, with the confidence in myself of like, Can we have a discussion on this based on facts and had the ability to kind of separate our emotions out of it and had that conversation and get to logically what steps are going to move this forward and keep us out of that kind of emotional tense, stressful, cortisol filled, high beta filled state where nothing is going to happen? And I think that's where we're at right now of like getting back to like with this Coronavirus stuff. I'm a big believer in like, let's look at the facts. Let's look at the data behind it because there are stories being told out there from both sides and in the middle of what should be happening and who should be doing what well by my personal opinion, not on Coronavirus but this the same thing of like doing some of the shootings that have happened and presidential election coming up all this stuff, is we have to have that ability to pull ourselves back and back. Okay, what do I want to influence and what can I control the situation? And what action Am I willing to do to facilitate change to stop change to but what do I want to do in this moment, but I've got to come at it from a state of logic and data not emotions, which is not gonna, again, move the needle here. So when like some of the shootings happened to Black Lives Matter started popping up stuff like that. I mean, I've had personally decided that I'm going to call some of my, some of my friends and and try to figure out like, how can I help How is uh, you know, I'm a white male and obviously you can see the header, but how do I as a white male Have I been doing enough? What can I be doing differently? How can I help support like this movement and like what's going on and like, change the lives of people and, and understand that it's not? We can approach this differently, not from a place of fear, but a place of like opportunity and growth? And how can I best step into that? Knowing that I don't know everything, but I better prompt my brain to learn, and figure out where do I want to be involved?

Ari Gronich 45:26  

So all of that, you know, that sounds good, right? Yep. But as we know, there are a lot of people who not only don't see the facts the same way. Right? The facts these days, it's really difficult to see facts that are actual facts, because, you know, with whether it's with a virus or a pandemic, and I try to not get too detailed into those individual things, Black Lives Matter, you know, there are a lot of people who wouldn't have your perspective of what have I been doing? What can I do? What, you know, I don't, it's there's a lot of defensiveness, I'm not racist. So therefore, you should not be whatever, right? I am not this, therefore, this doesn't exist. Right? So perception. Yes, you know, versus reality. So getting beyond the, I'm not your I'm being defensive, you should, you know, and all those things, how do we pull ourselves back away from that emotional attachment? and say, I may not experience life the way you experience life. But that doesn't mean that your experience of life is wrong or is incorrect? How do we get to that place where it's like, I haven't experienced this. But obviously you have. And from that place, we could make a conversation versus i'm not i'm not i'm not. It's not good. It's not society. It's not systems. It's correct. Individual people's experiences.

Matt Phillips 47:33  

Yes. We think about it again, it goes back to like, what do they fear? Anyone? They say that? What are they hearing? Is it perceptions of what other people are going to say about them? Maybe they've done something in the past that wouldn't look so good. They're afraid of being found out that there is some sort of imposter, like, what's the underlying piece of it? Right? So, but from my perspective, the way I look at it is like, first of all, it's not my job to convince other people, right, that they're entitled to their opinions they're entitled to their thoughts are entitled to their beliefs about anything and everything. It's not my job to convince them. My job is to make sure that I show up with the greatest amount of information that I have possible that I kind of approach things every day to make sure I'm under like uncovering the truth and like looking as best I can at what the truth is, so I can make the best decision possible. That's a choice that I have made. And I think it comes down to everyone's choice of, like, every single day of like, what do I want to do with this? Because I can't I have to control the controllables. Right? In sports, we talked about this all the time control the controllables. I don't know what the other team is doing. I don't know what the coach is doing. I don't want to in baseball, I don't know what pitch is coming. I you can't, yeah, you can try all the best tricks you can to figure out what they're gonna throw but at the end the day you don't know. So it's control the controllables. And in this case, I like when I step up to the plate, I know I've gone through my routine, I know that I'm mentally prepared, I know that if nothing else, I'm going to look at his release point. Because that's where you're supposed to look not look him dead in the eyes. So that can pick up the ball as quick as possible and see what spin is coming, then I can make my adjustment and either swing or not, or take whatever action I need to right. And the same thing is true in life of when we approach things approach in a way of like, what can I control on the situation? How do I want to prepare myself for the situation so I can react the best and come out the other side? as best I can for my family for myself for the like to prepare us for whatever you know might be coming even though we don't know what's coming. So and I think that's a huge thing of like you look back at that Mark Alyn story, he was so worried about what others were doing, and how what they were doing instead of saying, Well, well, well, well. That's great that they're doing whatever they're doing, but am I worried about them or Am I worried about, like how I show up my best self every day? And I think that's where this gap is right now. of, it seems like and I've fallen in this trap too, a little bit, but, but we're so worried about, like, what the media is doing and what these other people are doing what the President's, you know, Alexa are doing like, Okay, hold on a minute, am I taking full ownership of my piece of the puzzle here? And knowing that it's people are gonna disagree, that's fine. It's not chipping away at myself believe we just happen to agree to disagree on this topic. And that's okay. And it stops there. Period, not a comma. But I must say, it's not diving into hurting ourselves, like, right, chipping away at our self belief, but it's I just stopped like, their period of we choose the agree to disagree on this situation. But I'm gonna take the steps necessary to go forward. So yes, it's that ownership mentality that has to has to occur, right? It's no different than I hear people all the time of like, you know, are these people aren't doing enough about whatever? Okay, my next question to them is like, so are you getting involved in it to go facilitate the change? Or are you just going to sit here and complain about it from this emotional state, instead of taking action forward? It goes back to that ownership, right? I can say in baseball, I want to hit, you know, more home runs, well, I never practice changing my swing or shifting my swing to hit the homeruns never gonna hit a home run. Or I may every once in a while, but I have got to be willing to make the adjustment and take action on it, not just talk the talk, but actually walk the walk, that's what's going to completely shift. Like the way we're going in this world, right? It comes down to what's the data, what action Am I going to take and go from there, I always I'll tell a quick story. When I started my business, it goes back to data, right? data is so important. It's just it's information not to judge yourself but the tape to make an adjustment, right? Sometimes you have to dig really hard to get to the truth in the data. But I also start when I started out my business I people know and I'm an accountant by trade, right? So I had my CPA and I came up in the accounting world, we don't judge me Everyone, but but I'm a far hungry recovering CPA right now. But But you know, I far cry from that now. But I knew that I should be looking at my numbers, right, I should be looking at my revenue. And I should be looking at other metrics that I know are kind of driving my business forward. Guess what I never did Ari.

Ari Gronich 52:43  

Never did your books.

Matt Phillips 52:45  

Never did my books, never looked at my numbers. Do you know why?

Ari Gronich 52:49  

why

Matt Phillips 52:50  

is because I was scared of the story was going to tell me that fear caught up to me that like, I don't want to look at the data, for fear that it's going to tell me that maybe I'm off track. Maybe I'm on track, but I don't really want to find out. So I'm not going to look like not looking at my batting average in baseball to see like, hey, am I hitting well, or not just as a data point to be like, hey, I need to pick it up. Or, like, what's gone? Well, what's gone wrong. And so I've trained myself over time to understand that like, whatever is out there is out there, I've got to look at the data, I've got to just sit with it for a bit, not judge what's going on not judge what other people are saying or thinking or perceiving of me and my business or the world and figure out what action I can take based off that information. It's really that simple. But it's a brain thing of like getting out of that reptilian part of the brain, getting more logical, keep the emotion separate to say, wait a minute, this is the step I'm going to take forward now.

Ari Gronich 53:53  

Gotcha. So there's a there's a tool that we used to use when I was participating in Sterling Institute of relationships, and their, their men's programs and division, you know, men's divisions and stuff. And the tool is called the world sucks chart. It's an interesting tool, because it's a it's an inverted pyramid, basically, and it starts with the self. And then it goes to the family. And then it goes to your community like your block, right? Yes, the larger community, the city, the county, the state, right, the country, other countries. So you get to the world, right? And it's designed to give you a ladder to climb. So that which is why it kind of sucks Because you always need to be on the number one on the on the bottom rung. While you're doing everything else, right? You always need to be. That's why it sucks. You have to be really flexible. Be able to stretch this far. But you have to act for yourself first. Yes. But unfortunately, what sucks is most people stop there, or they stop at the next level, which is family. Right? So we're seeing this massive thing of, you know, we got politics going right now. And the politics are national politics. Yes. However, the issues are almost all very local. And so we have people who are focused on two different places, themselves and family and the world at large. And the rest of it is being eroded. The rest of the ladder is rusting away, because nobody's using it to oil it up with their handprints, you know, and their body oils. It's all rusting, because nobody's getting into these little pieces, right? And so we've got to go back to this idea of, we have to act locally, in order to create world change. So how do we get the mindset away from this, we've got national news and world news all the time nowadays, right? We have every is this big, huge, massive scale picture, which, frankly, is part of what I think is causing people to go into fight or flight. You can't focus on the world until you're taken care of until your family is taken care of until your community is taken care of until your city is right. That's the ladder and why it's called the world sucks chart, because I want to do is go from here to here and just fix the world. And what we need to do is make sure we're acting and so I'm going back to your premise at the beginning of our conversation, right? about taking that self inventory, and acting as your best self every day, create the habits and stuff, and then incorporating the next step, which is the family and then incorporating. And this is one of my biggest issues too. Because, you know, frankly, I want to change the world, I look at the world and I go this world, you know, is not operating for peak performance. I want to get better results. So how do we get better results. And that's where I focus and I sometimes will lose, focus on self care, taking care of my own body, my own needs, and then my family's body and my family's needs. And so how do we get people to kind of take that step down and back. So that we can make that bigger impact on the world.

Matt Phillips 58:19  

I simply put in one of our kind of marching orders is energy, right? I believe if you show up every single day with more energy than the person sitting across from you, in front of you, in the audience that you're talking to whatever, if you show up with more energy than them, the chances are, you're going to influence them in a positive way, right, assuming positive energy you're bringing across, right. And to your point, if we're going to show up and have a big impact with our kids, with our families, with the people we work with the people we want to work with, we have got to ensure that we are doing the right things mentally, physically, spiritually, emotionally, we're doing the inner work that we need to do so that when I step on that stage, or get on that podcast, or go to the office or step on that sporting field, that I'm showing up by here I come here I calm and right now I've given you 100% of what I have, I may have 50% right when you talk about these long battles, lace long races like that track on these talk to mark out he said at certain points, I only had 50%. But he said I was giving you 100% of 50%. Right? So it's how do we show up with 100% of of who we are so that we can take the action necessary to influence the people in front of us that ultimately had that kind of cascading change down the line. So it's a conscious decision. Like one thing I do every morning I've got like right here. But there's certain things that I teach that I actually practice what I preach in I've got, you know what I call my stand and it's the B is the principles and values that are guiding my life. It's the behaviors and actions and reactions. It's basically the way I want to show up every day. And the actions I'm going to take to do that. I read that every morning. And it's level setting me to be I go, Wait a minute, I'm asking all these other people to do these things. But if I'm not what's back up? If I'm not willing to do those things, then why should I expect them to do those things? So again, it's his choice every morning, or it could be at night, it could be whatever, but pick a time during the day, we're going to take a step back and look at yourself and say, am I doing the things? Am I pointing the fingers back at me? Right? Because you, I'm sure heard the saying, when you point your finger at someone, there's three fingers pointing back at you. Right, right. So if your other fingers pointing back at you, like, Am I doing those right things? That's just it's a simple conscious decision. But setting aside five minutes, 10 minutes a day, literally, to look at yourself and say, Okay, how am I how am I showing up today? To have this big impact? Because and that's the other key part. It's how do I show up my best self so I can have the biggest impact with others. It's a focus on others, the biggest lesson I learned, and I've been fortunate to speak on, you know, some pretty big stages and have some for some pretty big people. And it's been awesome. But there was a significant shift I had one day where, when I started out my career speaking, it was all about I got to say the right thing at the right time with the right inflection with the right step and motion as I went into the words, right? It was about me. It was about like, I better show up perfect, I better be perfect up there. Because then my message will get delivered. It had nothing to do with who was sitting in the audience. And it was a number of years ago, I had this like epiphany and shift of like, this has nothing to do with me. It doesn't matter what I'm wearing. It doesn't matter. Like I'm going to say what needs to be said, I'm going to prepare the heck out of it. Right? But it's how do I make those people sitting in that audience? Or even on his podcast, or a one on one conversation or a coffee? How do I make them successful? How do I need to show up so that they're successful? And so as this balances Yin and Yang, have I, I've got to be my best if they're going to be their best. And if they're going to be their best that I haven't everybody. So it says yin and yang back and forth. But this decision every single day that I'm going to choose this, like, How cool is this, that I get this choice to wake up and like read this or spiritually prepare or make a to do list but I can show up prepared today. So I'm going to go kick some butt so I can control the controllables and, and have the influence that I was put on this earth to make. It's this simple. But I don't know, seemingly difficult decision that we each get to make every day and most of us 99% just say whatever, I'll just deal with what the day brings, instead of saying, Wait a minute, no, no. I'm going to show up a certain way and I'm going to influence the outcome of what this world is going to be.

Ari Gronich 1:02:57  

Cool. So one of my things you said the word influencer a few times there. So I'm gonna I'm gonna share one of my discontentment, right with influencers and my discontentment right now with influencers, impactors, people who are making a stand for something is that they're doing so in a way that works for them. And not necessarily in a way that works for the people that they're trying to impact. Right? Yes. And so when when I look at my career, as a, you know, Olympic Paralympic Pro, athlete, trainer, you know, therapist, I'm working on their bodies, I'm working on their minds, I'm working on their nutrition, I'm working on all kinds of things. But the one thing that that I always did, always had to do if I wanted to get the results that I wanted to get as I had to do a really thorough client intake. A really thorough one, because I had to find out exactly who this person was. That was in front of me, not just the stats that they had not just their data, but I had to know this these people if I wanted to get the results. That meant the difference between first place and last place that prints even between first place in fourth place, which is even more, you know, disconcerting for some Yes, we had we had to get results if we didn't get results and I say this a lot. If we didn't get results. I didn't have a job. I didn't business and people don't seem to get the results that I would like to see impactors, right, I look at somebody and I'm gonna I'm not gonna call him out but I'm gonna say this person impacts 10s of thousands Dozens of people sometimes at once, right in big rooms. And 90 something percent of the people that are there will be motivated for two to three weeks. And then we'll need to either go back to another event to continue their motivation or they fall, fall off about maybe 10% of those people, maybe 5% of the people take the actionable steps, spend six months, maybe even a year doing the things that they're being told, and then they fall off. And then maybe the other 4%, right, great long term change, and then maybe 1% is gonna be the biggest, you know, next new thing, right? So I'm making up these numbers. Obviously, this is this is my

Matt Phillips 1:05:55  

new year's resolutions that Yeah, absolutely key god,

Ari Gronich 1:05:59  

it's my belief in numbers. But this is a basic premise. So I want to change that those numbers. So I actually, I've been developing a mastermind course, that I'm designing the same way I as I designed a athlete going from an injury to a gold medal or World Championship, because everybody's starting with some kind of injury. Yes, some kind of mental emotional trauma, injury, something that and so I figured, if I designed this in a certain way, then I'm going to get 90% having the results, not 90% not having the results, right, I'm going to switch flip the switch on it, I'm just have, there's still going to be 10% of the people that, you know, you just can't help your might not be the right person for correct. But the idea is, is to design things that work for the majority versus the minority. So I get pissed off a bit. Because I see them taking everybody's money and lowering the value. Because they're charging a lot and they're getting very poor results in many cases. And so the value goes down, even though the price is going up, and then somebody like me comes along, or somebody like you comes along, and these massive skills, right? Yes, to get more of the 90% to get better results. And though and we're the ones typically, who while we may not necessarily be struggling, but we're not the ones that are on stage. So I want to kind of flip the switch on on this a little bit and find out both how we can impact these impactors more so that they are really designing to get better results corporations designing to get results. Governments designing to get results systems in general design results. How do we switch this so that I can be calmer?

Matt Phillips 1:08:11  

Yeah. Well, and Ari, it's funny, like my as you were talking about that. My two thoughts one is like why are you following these people? You got the answer? This is more rhetorical. Let me talk about that for a minute. Because we spend, we only have so much energy during the day, right? So you wake up with a certain amount of energy. And that's how we go to sleep at night because we've expended the energy and need to recharge, right. So we've got these, I don't know, I'll call little coins in a piggy bank, right? And we only got so many withdrawals from the piggy bank before pig needs to go to sleep again. Well, we spend so much of our time expending energy on things that really don't matter. So that's why my first question of like, when we start getting heated and like, like, I don't know, too excited about that stuff, right? I again, I've been there. But it's like, why are they doing well, or, or whatever. But again, now now we're focusing all of our attention and energy on someone else, that we have zero influence over who they have made their choice, and we're putting expectations on those people, but you should be doing this, you should be having a different influence there. That's not our problem. That's not our choice. That is their choice to wake up and make that decision for themselves every day. So if we start stop putting our expectations on others, and instead take our energy and figure out okay, what one thing I learned in sports is I would always compare myself to other players, right? And they were a lot bigger, stronger, faster, all that stuff and hit the ball further. All that stuff, right. That didn't serve me very well because I was watching them and Instead of working on what I needed to work on, to maximize my potential, right, and hit a baseball as far as I could, I was more worried about what they were doing and focused and listened watching and, oh, this sucks and not now the negativity starts right while I'm taking no action on the other side. So what I learned over time is to say, to look at these other people out there, and come with this attitude of gratitude, right? It sounds ridiculous. And people are like, Oh my gosh, like, they have this attitude of gratitude, blah, blah, blah, well, the reason you have this attitude of gratitude, and again, their studies around this, that when you when you like, say you're thankful for something, and it could be something completely unrelated to like this situation, like your cortisol actually drops and cortisol is your stress. And they've been studies on this stuff. It's not I'm not making this stuff up on this side. They've been studies that like I'm thankful for. I don't know what am I? What am I looking at here? a selfie stick I got a selfie sticks. No, I That's right, I could say I'm thankful for the selfie stick. I like what, but that has this effect of actually lowering your stress level, your record is all right, if you consistently practice that. So what I learned in sports is to look at other people and other athletes and guy, you know, that's, that's pretty incredible. I'm very thankful that they have that ability, and they can hit the ball that far and do all this stuff. And then I have the shift of what do I need to do right now? to, again, show up my best self to maximize my potential, like, what do I need to get to work on so that I can get to my people, right? There people may not be My people, how do we get to my people, so I can have the influence that I know I can have and get the results for those individuals. And then if those other people over here want to come? That's great, we're getting we're doing some cool stuff over here. But I'm going to take control of my world and really own way that on every on every, every single day. Does that make sense? So it's like stopping looking, pausing, being thankful for what they're doing, and stop putting up or sneezes on them? And, and then saying, What do I need to do right now and shift that and the quicker you do that, you want to do that? That's where you get the momentum in your business, and your life everywhere in life?

Ari Gronich 1:12:12  

Yes, if for me, I get the motivation to do things differently, by what I see other people not doing, in my opinion, what would be as optimized and so I learn from them what they're not doing, I have gaps in their training. And then that's when I come in all taken and reinvigorate their trainings and make them a little bit more effective and get better results with them.

Matt Phillips 1:12:46  

And that's the key though, is like you're taking that whatever that is that emotion and you're saying, I'm going to use this positively and like actually do something with it, where most don't make that decision. We sit with and continue to look at those other people, other people, other people and stew and then all of a sudden, a day goes by a week goes by a year goes by. And we're no closer to our end result than where we were before.

Ari Gronich 1:13:13  

Right? So what are your your contributions that you were talking about? Before we got on this call that you want to make is you want to help people get out of their own way. You want to help people tap into the power of their brain and help them achieve their wildest goals. That's a great thing to want to impact and people. How do you get people to begin the process of getting out of their own ways when it when it comes to things like somebody living a life that they think that they should be living, even though it's not the life they want to live. So for instance, somebody who's going to a job 40 hours a week or 60 hours a week, and isn't really doing the thing that they're passionate about, but they're doing it because they think that that's what they need to do to make money.

Matt Phillips 1:14:11  

I told you a little bit ago, I grew up in accounting. I fully understand that. I was good at accounting. I was good at auditing. But there there was always this I knew there was something greater I knew there was something bigger. You know, I grew up with a belief that I was supposed to go to high school, get good grades, go to college, get good grades, get a good job, climb the corporate ladder, become a CEO one day. Awesome. That's what I did. That's the path I fall because I believe I grew up with that belief, right? That was something that I told my mom like she really influenced me with because my dad was a salesman. It was kind of the results were up and down. It was stressful. The family. And so that's a belief that now being an entrepreneur, I've had to really dive into and figure out where did that come from? Is that true or not? That you have to climb, you have to follow that path, or other other paths available that still could provide the stability that, you know, I was kind of seeking and that my wife needs as an example. So it's first and foremost, it's I always start people out with like, okay, let's shift our thinking, because most people show up and they're miserable, right? So it's, you know, Monday, when we're recording this, I woke up with a little fire and passion in the belly this morning, I was excited to get up. Not only to do this, but for the rest of the day. And and most people don't feel that way necessarily those 40 hour a week jobs, right. So simply put, I, this is where I started telling people like, why hate my job? I'm like, What do you like, tell me one thing you actually like about your job. Like, there's got to be something that you actually like about your job, because, again, there's a different part of our brain called the RAS, the reticular activating system, actually have a free training on this on my website, where I dive into a whole concept, but at its highest level, it's the filter at the base, your brain filter between the subconscious and conscious mind, right? So the subconscious mind is on all these sights, sounds, smells, balls, situations going on, but we're really not aware of right? And then our conscious mind is what we're actively focused on. And so with all this information, how does the brain know what to pull forward and make us consciously aware of right? And that's where the RAS comes in this filter. And so I always use this example of, have you heard the phrase that bad things happen in threes?

Ari Gronich 1:16:52  

Yes.

Matt Phillips 1:16:55  

So when one thing goes wrong, then we look at Oh, there's another thing that went wrong. And then finally, another thing goes wrong, right? Oh, why don't bad things happen in sixes? Because that's not the saying, right? Bad things happen in threes, you so you've, you've told your Ras as part of your brain to believe this. And so that's why it stops looking after number three, all it's doing is looking for data that's razzes looking for data. It's not emotional. It's not just saying, oh, bad things happen in threes. I believe that so I'm going to sift through all this subconscious stuff. And I'm going to pull forward exactly what you're thinking about exactly what you're looking for. And then in that case, I'm going to stop right at three, right? If the saying were bad things happen in sixes, you would find six things because your RAS would go search for that information, no matter how big or how small and show you six things that have gone wrong, right. So it all comes down to our beliefs. So we have to again, shift our thinking and reset our as we have the power to do that. We have to say, hey, RAS, show me something positive about my job. Show me something I enjoy. Show me where I get energy and start shifting the way you see your business. And the way you see your job, because then then we can actually take action. But you have to free up your mind to start looking for the good. Start looking for where perhaps you get energy, because then we can start saying, oh, wait a minute, let's strategically get into this. How do we move the needle? So where you're doing more of that sort of thing? We position you differently at that job? Can we find you a new job? Can you need to start a business maybe maybe not like entrepreneurships for some people, it's not for others. But it's it's starting to have our brains show us the data that we're looking for and show us we're moving in the right direction. So that's where I start with people, but we got to start understanding your brain starts with small things. So let's at least ship the raspberry. What? What do you actually like about your job? Because I guarantee you like something it could be your coworker. It could be the coffee's the greatest coffee in the world. Awesome. Well, maybe it's your next job or at this. I don't know, you work for a company with the same coffee. I don't know making stuff up here. Right. But, but it's like there's a way to start moving towards this. But we got to start with the basics.

Ari Gronich 1:19:08  

Yeah, you know, it's funny when you buy a new car, your RAS activates. Yep. And all of a sudden you start seeing that you know your car everywhere, even if you hadn't seen it before. Yes. As a preemptive strike on your RAS system. Right. Let's say that you want a Lamborghini. You can activate your RAS to see Lamborghinis everywhere. Yes. And then all of a sudden you start seeing them and start seeing them and start seeing them and then maybe that's gonna end up being your car soon. Right? But that's, that's, you know, to me a good explanation of what the RAS system is as well because most people have that experience of I bought a car and then all of a I started seeing it everywhere. I know my, my friend, he bought a van like a Honda Odyssey van. He had never thought he was gonna ever buy a van before. But he wanted something he could transport things in. Yeah. And he bought a van. And all of a sudden he starts saying, I start I'm seeing this van everywhere. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's your as that's your your reticular activating system that is? Yes. Being the thing that you are focused on?

Matt Phillips 1:20:34  

Yes. Oh, that's a huge thing. Are you talking about go back to that real quick, but the whole stuff going on in the world? And if you're setting your as to look for everything going wrong in the world, what do you think you're gonna find? everything going on in the world, right? Or in a relationship? If you find you're nitpicky with your husband or wife or partner, whatever? And you're saying like, well, they're doing everything to go against me? Well, what do you what is your brain your brain is going to show you data, it's not going to be like, oh, mad, that? Okay, you shouldn't think that. No, it's just like, process information. Boom, there's something here. She did too.

Ari Gronich 1:21:06  

Yeah. Cuz when when somebody says, I'm looking for the good in somebody, in somebody else in a relationship, you're in a relationship, and the person is, is saying, there's all this negative things around. So I'm going to take a little bit to look for the good. Are they actually looking for the good? Or are they activating that's part of them that says everything is bad, so I have to look for good in order to find it.

Matt Phillips 1:21:39  

So it depends I phrase is the statement, right? So if you lead with like, well, everything's bad. Well, if that's more powerful than your RAS gonna look for everything bad. Right? Or if you start to say, like, show me some, show me the positive things that he or she does, right? Show me the opportunity, opening up a business, show me the, it's shifting that dialogue. So your RAS actually knows what to go look for. And that's back to like, taking a compliment. Well, thank you. But you know, I just I kind of came through easily now. Thank you. Thank you trigger your brain the right way.

Ari Gronich 1:22:17  

Yeah, that's one of the things I definitely worked on in my early age, was being able to take compliments even even nowadays, it's a, it's really interesting, my son will say, you know, you're the best dad ever. You're awesome. And I have those places still in the back of my brain from growing up and being a child and being told that I would never be that I would you know, that that I was bad influence that I you know, that I was all these things? Yes. That becomes a very difficult thing. And my practice is, when he says that to say thank you, I really appreciate you noticing that about me. Instead of Thank you, and or Thank you, but are you know, like?

Matt Phillips 1:23:09  

Yes, it takes courage to put a period where you're used to putting a comma. It takes courage, and that builds confidence when you finally step in and own it.

Ari Gronich 1:23:19  

Yeah, that's a really good thing for the audience to remember when they're being complimented. And they're being given a gift of any kind, whether a physical gift or a compliment of a gift or, you know, things like that is is that Thank you. When I was at pink potentials, that's one of the exercises we did was if somebody gave you a compliment you Your only response was Thank you. So only thing you're allowed to say this. And then walk away. You couldn't, couldn't compliment them back, by the way, either. Because that is also a form in some ways of discounting the compliment to you. Yes, is you know, so it's an interesting thing to look at these parts of how your brain how we function as a society. So let's bring it back to the societal level. And, you know, if I if I could put 100 year plan together, I would, right? Well, I can but and I have, but if I could put it on on this segment of the show, I would just like put it on and say okay, here's the the hundred year plan. But let me ask you a question. This is not one that I've asked anybody else at this point to this point. But I was thinking about doing a panel when I get to come to Colorado and see you guys. Yes, I want I want to do like a four person panel and have discussion. But the first question I would I would ask is because I like to start at the end is What is possible? No caveat. World, individual doesn't matter. If you close your eyes, and you see the world as you would want to see it?

Matt Phillips 1:25:18  

what's possible?

The world

Ari Gronich 1:25:26  

for tomorrow, create a new tomorrow. what's possible?

Matt Phillips 1:25:39  

That's a loaded question. I take it.

I it's interesting. I when you asked that question, the first thing that popped in my head was like, Oh, we've ended world hunger, and everyone gets along, right? No more wars, all those things.

Ari Gronich 1:26:07  

And then your monkey brain kicked in, didn't it?

Matt Phillips 1:26:10  

It totally did. And then my next thought was really have not selfishly, but like, if I think about the possibility and me the influence that I can have on people, because I always go back to like, there's certain things in my control and certain things not in my control. And I remember my, and this is true of everyone, when my dad passed away from cancer about six years ago. And some of his, you know, last one of the last conversations we had, he made a comment of, you know, if you, I know if I have no doubt in my mind that if you put your mind to something, you'll be successful at it. And the key in that whole phrase is if you put your mind to it, meaning if I commit, if I decide that this is something worthy of my energy, and time and effort, that there'll be a lot of a lot of ups and downs along the way, but ultimately get where I want to go, is my dad saw that in me. And I think when I think about like, what's possible, I really start with like myself, and I go to my family next, because we have three kids and married to a great woman. And I always think to myself, gosh, if I could just look in the mirror one day and have know that I maximize my potential, right? Because I know if I do that, then I show up in a great way for my kids, and my wife, which means I show up in a great way for my clients, which means I show up in a great way for the No matter if anybody who crosses my path, I'm going to show up that like that way that impact can have lasting effects, right. And so whatever I set my mind to and decide that this is a this is a cause that I believe in this is a profession that I've I've chosen, this is a way of life that I'm going after this is like the people I want to influence like whatever it is, if I choose ownership, and that I don't know what's going to happen, but all I know is that, that there's going to be like a positive influence on that. So if world hunger is your thing, then go after it. If politics is your thing, go after it. If whatever the grown up business is your thing, there's amazing things that could happen that once you realize that you're in more control than you think. incredible stuff can happen. I mean, I I truly believe like, I will say anything in this world is possible, because there's so many uncontrollables already this being realistic with stuff. But there's a heck of a lot more that's in our control that that we give ourselves credit for we give society credit for and if we throw it ourselves with great people who are passionate as we are, we can move some some pretty big challenges out of the way.

Ari Gronich 1:29:07  

Absolutely. So what I like to think about when I think on that question, what is possible is that anything that I want to be possible is possible. And then when that monkey brain starts showing up, right? So let's say it's world hunger, and the monkey brains shows up and says, Yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but yeah, but so we know it's possible. It's possible to feed everything. Then the buts come up. The Yeah, buts become the action steps. Yes. Right. Instead of being the stopping of they become the action steps and you could break down the Yeah, but if you can follow them and write them down, you could break down the yeah buts in their small, little actionable steps and actionable forms. So let's say, you know, it's a, it's the issue that we've been having with race. So the what is possible is that we all can get along, kind of go back to Rodney King, right? Can't we all just get along? Yes, Yes, we can. Yeah. But we need to, oh, that's a thing we can deal with. Yeah. But that, oh, that's the thing we can deal with. And then you could go, Okay, so who can deal with that? Who can who's who's the best one for that role, who's the best one for this role that and this works. The same thing in a company. If you have a company and you have a thing that you'd like to create for your company, what's possible for the company, and then you take and you break down all the yeah buts,

Matt Phillips 1:31:01  

I Like that.

Ari Gronich 1:31:01  

And that way, you can actually create a system designed to get the result that you're wanting, versus the result you think you have to live with?

Matt Phillips 1:31:12  

Yes. I like that. Well, we're a longer starts with one meal. So yeah, but there's not that huge organization to feed everybody or there's not a supply chain put in place or whatever. Okay, well, all I can do is start with one meal. And then Pharaoh what adjustment I can make there? How do I make it to how to make it 100? How to make 1000.

Ari Gronich 1:31:34  

Exactly. And you know, like one of my, one of my things for world hunger is funny, it's probably one of the most simple things you can imagine. It's instead of planting a whole bunch of palm trees on the side of the road, plant a coconut tree, a plum tree and apple tree and orange tree, a plum tree and apple tree, a coconut tree, plant berries and bushes, you know, so anybody who's walking down the street in a park, can pick a fruit off off of the tree, instead of walking through the park and just having to deal with folks that make a mess. They take the same amount of effort and time to for the communities to clean up. Right?

Matt Phillips 1:32:15  

Yep, 

Ari Gronich 1:32:16  

make tidy, but now you have fast food. Yes, relying on it being about money, you're not relying it on being about anything else. That's just one possibility. You know, every school has has land, whether it's on top of a roof, or, you know, on the playground areas, right? So every school can create community gardens, that, then they have unlimited supply of landscape people because all the kids can be learning how to grow food. Yes, right. And now, not only is the food fed for this school, but you could probably produce enough to have a farmers market to actually do some funding for the rest of the community and the school. Yes, these solutions that I see are solutions that can be so freaking powerful to end world hunger, right. But you would never have gotten there. If you didn't ask the question, what is possible?

Matt Phillips 1:33:18  

Correct? Well, and to add on to that Ari we wait so long for others to do that, when we have the power in ourselves does take the first step in That's the magic. That's the magic of why wait for others when you can do it yourself. And you don't have to have it all figured out and solved. But just do that one first thing,

Ari Gronich 1:33:46  

right. And you don't have to do the thing that you're not passionate about, because there's gonna be somebody passionate about that, that can do that part. And the thing that you're passionate about is the thing that you can do, yes, build your tribe around that and people with different skill sets. And so that's just kind of like, for the audience. You know, here's something if you really want to create a new tomorrow, ask this question. what's possible? And then every time your monkey brain gives you a Yeah, but write it down. Because then you'll find that there are there are solutions to every yeah but that you got. And, and it makes the Yeah, but less of a negative and more of, Oh, well. Here's a thing to overcome. Here's the thing. Here's a challenge that we can overcome. Here's a solution that we can create. You know, there's one of the things I've heard recently is every every problem has a solution that can make it trying to remember the exact every problem has A solution, every issue has, or every issue has a cause. Every cause has a root, every root has a problem that can be fixed with the solution. And so if you think kind of that that way, you'll you'll get what you need.

Matt Phillips 1:35:20  

Soldier,

Ari Gronich 1:35:21  

whether that's another person involved, whether it's 20 people involved, but whatever it is, you know, Human trafficking is a big one these days, right? 

Matt Phillips 1:35:30  

You bet. Yeah, it's Yeah, I got a lot. It's the forms your to do list when you think about it.

Ari Gronich 1:35:39  

Yes. If you can think of like human trafficking. I have a number of people who are in nonprofits, that that work on that. Right. But if you're in that world, so what's possible? Yes, that there's no more people being enslaved. That's, that's possible. Yes. Or being trafficked and kidnapped? Yes, it's to happen. Well, the people, the places that those are more likely to happen, we can create some concentrated effort in the industries that's likely to happen. We create some regulation. I mean, there's things that Yeah, buts just lead to solutions. Yeah, but solution. Yeah, but solution

Matt Phillips 1:36:22  

and trigger as to say, look, give me solutions for this, and the Razzle magically show you the solutions?

Ari Gronich 1:36:28  

Exactly. So we're gonna end this, and I'm going to have you on when I'm in Colorado, we'll do a panel, we'll have a few people. So it'll be a really lively show. But in the meantime, I asked this every time three actionable steps that somebody can take that's listening in the audience right now. That they could take in order to change their life and create a new tomorrow.

Matt Phillips 1:36:59  

So first thing, start writing down your thoughts, because you got to get a baseline of where your head's at. And if you get it on paper, and on paper, I'm telling you, not on your phone, not spoken to some voice app, on paper, you have to start getting that that baseline and creating awareness of your thoughts so you can take action going forward. Second thing I will tell you start related to that, but start triggering your RAS, the reticular activating system, differently, position it to look for things that you want, instead of things that are getting in your way, or things that are holding you back, start making that choice every day to set your RAS. And the third thing I'll leave you with, and then I'm a big believer in and I spoke about it earlier. But this compounding effect, you know, the small things adding up, it's all about taking action, but take small action, you may think it's the silliest thing in the world to drop down if you want to get a better shape, and do one pushup a day. But start small because it will begin adding up and creates this momentum and gives you this dopamine hit again, tricking your brain and your body to get you where you want to go and business that starts with one call for a sale, and relationships. It starts with one dinner out or just asking the question, but do the small things consistently. And you'll be amazed amazed at where you get.

Ari Gronich 1:38:27  

Awesome. So number one, let's repeat. Number one,

Matt Phillips 1:38:34  

write down your thoughts. Got to get a baseline. 

Ari Gronich 1:38:37  

I'm just going to add because you did kind of allude to it. Why is it that writing is going to be different than typing or different than speaking?

Matt Phillips 1:38:48  

You look at the well. So look at those statistics. First of all, I'm like writing versus saying versus teaching versus all this stuff, right. But what writing does as well, what I found every single time is it strips you emotionally out of the situation as soon as you see it and can analyze it differently. So huge effort. Yep.

Ari Gronich 1:39:09  

Okay, it also activates when you write it activates your motor response to your brain. So thereby taking out some of the motivation. It actually helps to motivate your body's movement in action. It doesn't work quite the same way as typing or speaking. But if you write something, and and this actually works both hands, what's kind of funny is if you're typically a right handed person, and you start writing left handed, you'll find that your creative side gets much easier. You could actually take writer's block and alleviate it and things like that by using your left hand. So It's, it's good for Mind Body connection, yes, helps with memory, it helps with focus. And then if you read it afterwards, and then if you teach it to somebody afterwards, that becomes more ingrained in yourself. So if you're looking to do say a habit, change your habit, if you're an audience member, and you're looking to change a habit or create a new habit, then what you're going to do is you write it down, and then you speak what you wrote down, and you can even record it. And then you can listen to yourself as you read it. So that you are hearing it, you're teaching it and now all of a sudden, it becomes more ingrained in your body, and you're more likely to do that action. Second, is RAS system, yes. So what do we want to focus on? And how do we word it so that we're changing our perceptions and what we see from the positive or from negative to positive. And I'm gonna just add to that, because we have this massive social media thing where we're all in our echo chambers listening to other people that sound exactly like we sound because they're, you know, programmed through algorithms, to basically be the people that agree with us. So on that level of your RAS system, change your algorithms for social media so that you're listening to more sides of the story. So like, for instance, I used to watch Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, PBS, and some internet news when I when I watch news now, I don't watch news at all. But but it is a good choice. I would, I would watch them all, so that I had different perspectives that I was always running through. So I could see, okay, what's, what are these people talking about? And then I look at, I listen to somebody else, that's completely different. And so now I have more of a picture. If I listen to another one that's completely different, I have a deeper, it's all the same story, just totally different perspectives on the reality of the story. And so it'll actually allow your brain to pick up more nuanced thinking, critical thinking skills, if you can do that. And number three,

Matt Phillips 1:42:41  

number three, action, action action, and break it down in a way where it's simple. And you can stick with it again, too, and you'll be blown away by it when you take those simple actions where you get to.

Ari Gronich 1:42:57  

Awesome. So Matt, how can people get ahold of you? If if they're interested?

Matt Phillips 1:43:03  

Yeah, so go to my our website, proathleteadvantage.com on the website to like I mentioned around the RAS, I've got a free training out there. So you can take a look. And it's literally the training that I've taught to athletes, professional athletes, and entrepreneurs and business leaders, you know, around the world, so you can kind of check that out and you get the handout and all that stuff with it. That's right at the top of the page, you'll see. And then yeah, please follow us on Facebook and Instagram is we are pro athlete advantage, we'd love to connect if we can help.

Ari Gronich 1:43:35  

Awesome, thank you so much, Matt, for being here. I have enjoyed this conversation tremendously. As you can probably tell by my face, I'm like, constantly on the edge of my seat, like leaning into what you're saying. And that tells me that hopefully, the audience will be doing the same thing leaning into what we're saying. They can really get a level of life change, not just motivation, but actionable things that they can do to shift what they're doing and who they are. So I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.

Matt Phillips 1:44:13  

Thank you.

Ari Gronich 1:44:14  

You're welcome. And this has been another episode of create a new tomorrow. I am your host, Ari Gronich and I look forward to talking to you on the next one. 

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I will say anything in this world as possible because there's so many uncontrollables already this being realistic with stuff, but there's a heck of a lot more that's in our control that that we give ourselves credit for. We give society credit for and if we throw it ourselves with great people who are passionate as we are. We can move some pretty big challenges out of the way.

Today I am here with JJ Flizanes, She one of the female powerhouse when it comes to health and fitness, she was awarded as the best personal trainers in Los Angeles, learn more about how she became this amazingly credentialed woman, here is the Highlights of the episode hope you enjoy. Listen to the full episode in your favorite podcast app.

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We are a multifaceted Health and Wellness company that specializes in Corporate Wellness and Culture Consulting, Industry Speaking engagements and Continuing education for the industry.

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Ari Gronich 0:07  

Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow I'm your host Ari Gronich and I have with me JJ Flizanes. She is an empowerment strategist host of the fit to love podcast show, Director of invisible fitness, Amazon best seller of fit to love how to get physically, emotionally and spiritually fit to attract the love of your life. And I could go on she's got so many credentials, including named the best personal trainer in Los Angeles by elite traveler magazine. And that is a big deal because there are a lot of personal trainers in Los Angeles, just saying. So, JJ, why don't you tell us a little bit about how you became this amazingly credentialed woman? And powerhouse?

JJ Flizanes 0:54  

Um, well, like you, I asked the hard questions, I and I don't settle for status quo. I am an independent thinker. I've always thought, Well, if they can do it, I can do it. And how do I do it? And I've always been a good problem solver. And the more information I get, the more problems I can solve. And when someone would come with a problem, I didn't know the answer to I go learn something else. So I have a pretty extensive toolbox with many, many tools that I customized for clients and shows and whomever we're talking to, whether it'd be about health and fitness, law of attraction, astrology, relationships, or even business and podcasting. Yeah, I've just, I love learning. And I also like you believe and see things very differently limiting beliefs and people who think, well, this is the way it is, and I go, No, that's the way you've accepted that it is. And that's the way you are co-creating that it's day when you focus on what is so how do we get out of that? Because I believe that, if you believe you can do it, you can, it doesn't matter the circumstances or how many other people say, you can't. So for me, it's really just about I deeply care about transformation in people and giving them empowerment and hope.

Ari Gronich 2:04  

That's awesome. You know, you're actually leading, you've led me into an area that I am very passionate about, which is why do people stay with the status quo? Why do why do we see a system that doesn't work that's broken, and yet accept it as it is as though we can, there's nothing we can do about it. So I'd like to discover a little bit about what you've discovered of the psychology of that and how to get people to shift outside of the status quo so that they can really make a difference in their own lives.

JJ Flizanes 2:41  

I think the first thing I want to point out is that there are different levels of consciousness. So not everybody is curious, not everybody sees things the same way, not everybody takes a broader perspective. And that's where I started using astrology to sort of make sense of some of those things. And, and I think we're all on a spiritual path of awakening and understanding if we're taking the cues. And that's where nobody takes the cues. So um, you know, there's a, there's a basic law of attraction principle, and it's that you're the creator of your own reality. But then there are people who hear that statement, you're the creator of your own reality, and they go, I wouldn't have created any of this, that can't be true. No, I didn't don't shame me, I didn't make a big mistake. by attracting these things. I don't want these things. I don't like these things. But as you know, and any kind of therapeutic or psychological outlook on life, there's really only two positions, you're either a victim, or you're the creator of your own reality. That's it, there's only two, you either somehow affect what happens to you and attract it, or you're a victim to it. 100% of the time, when you're a victim to it, you will not find success or happiness, freedom or peace in whatever you're dealing with, because you're always disempowered. But if you take the role of I'm responsible for every single gosh darn bit of it, then we have some room to play with how you shifted. So one is taking power away and giving it away. And one is taking it back.

Ari Gronich 4:01  

Yeah, you know, I definitely have a place in me, where I look at things that I don't like, say for instance, the healthcare system. And I go, Okay, this is clearly and this is clearly to me, but clearly not meant to get good results. The system as we've designed it, it's clearly meant to treat symptoms and not get to root problems and to exacerbate illness rather than create health. And so, in my world, in my brain, and in my world, 100% of doctors know that what they're doing is not as optimal as what could be being done to give patients for instance, the health care that they need to give people weight loss, diabetes control, heart disease, control, stress relief, etc. So I'm very passionate about moving that needle forward. And what you're saying is to not convince the naysayers, so to speak, or not try to convince people who aren't looking for the solution. Some people are really going to not like the fact that you just called them victims, right? So can you unpack that a little bit more so that people can can really get what that means to be a victim versus be a victor in any situation.

JJ Flizanes 5:34  

So we know that there are many sciences that top level sciences being quantum physics over 100 years old, and quantum physics, by the way, is the science behind law of attraction. So this isn't this isn't a belief system. This is a reality, it's physics. then underneath that we have epigenetics and epigenetics is that you create that the environment that you're in, creates a biology influences your body's production of neurotransmitters of appropriate chemicals that match the picture that you have in your mind of your reality of your future of whatever you're telling yourself. That is above. Anything else that we're doing. immunology doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what name is science that applies to your body, and epigenetics is above it. It's why it's called epigenetics, it's above your genetics, it means that your genes get expressed based on how you see the world and yourself in the world. And based on the influences of those belief systems, aka also emotions. So you know, there's no such thing as a cancer gene. But we all have the ability to manifest cancer. It's whether or not we create an environment for our body, both mental, physical, and emotional, and spiritual, that allows that cancer to grow. Or make sure that over our lifetime, it never ever expresses itself. So when it comes to things that just aren't true, like, let's say that someone can affect you in a certain way. They really can't, unless you let them if you believe they can, then they will. And when it comes to being a victim, know that and again, I mean, I even work with people who've been working with me for a while, who listened to the show who don't realize they're in victim mentality. And again, I can one of the tools being astrology. Why does someone Why does a child out of the womb have a personality? Do you think they learned that from you, they come out with a personality, and it isn't because you influenced it. It's because it's who they are in the world. And as they grow and change their beliefs will be shaped and influenced by who they're modeling and what they're told. We have these belief systems that we don't ever really question they just are, until something happens, just like for a lot of people, they'll say cancer was the best thing that ever happened to me, because it woke me up. It changed my life, it stopped the patterns. It showed me where I was toxic in so many areas. And when I decided to take my power back and live life differently, now I'm happier because of cancer. And that's not everybody's story. Of course, as you know, some people take the diagnosis, and then they go down the path and they die. And not everyone's not gonna die, we're all gonna die. But it's, but it's what do you do with that? And do you leverage your life path to teach you things? Or do you just think that everything happens? Like randomly, because it doesn't, but you can believe that. And again, no disrespect for those of you that believe that. It's not true. But it's how it's gonna shake your life, and it will keep you disempowered. It'll keep you depressed, it'll keep you anxious, it'll keep you in addiction of control, thinking you have to control everything. And it's just not a happy place to be, you're not going to find peace with that belief.

Ari Gronich 8:32  

You're so passionate about these multiple kinds of subjects. And a lot of people don't know how to activate themselves so that they can even be passionate about the one thing that they're passionate about, how is it that health and vitality are important in that aspect?

JJ Flizanes 8:52  

Well, again, it's all based on energy and frequency, the higher frequency, the better you feel. And if you take care of your body, and you put yourself at sort of a higher level of frequency by eating clean, organic, non GMO foods, plenty of fruits and vegetables, fruits, but plenty of vegetables, plenty of new nutrients, clean meats, healthy fats, you know, low carb, if you're lots of clean water alkaline as well and get your minerals in there. If you're doing all the right things for the body, the body is happy, and it's clean. And it's not stopped by having digestive issues of gas or bloating or, you know, irritable bowel syndrome. And so when you have that kind of thing happening in your body, it drags your energy down. So the body does absolutely propel you forward, that when it's healthier, and you can connect with your intuition much clearer when you feel good.

Ari Gronich 9:44  

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I have a lot of experience with corporate wellness. And that's a message that I like to get even across to the corporations who may be looking at the possibility of doing corporate wellness programs and creating a corporate culture. In their company of health, the benefit to them is that those things that you just mentioned, the brain fog goes away, the depression goes away. The other things that are stopping people like neck pain and back pain go away. And now all of a sudden, you have a productive, loyal help happy, healthy member of your community that's in your business. And that spikes your bottom line. You know, I look at the health care system, you and I are both, you know, personal trainers, for instance. And there's such a difference between one personal trainer and another, somebody who went to one school versus another, somebody who's been having struggles with their health and another How does somebody find the right person, for them to go to, if you know, all they're doing is listening to somebody say, hey, you should go to my person, they're the best.

JJ Flizanes 10:59  

Well, I mean, that could work. Depending on if you feel in alignment with the person referring you and they are in alignment with the person who they're working with, I had to stop promoting personal training. I mean, I was, I was over it anyway. Because I if someone's not willing to do the mind, body soul work, they're not willing to look at the emotions, you're not willing to look at why you overeat, you're looking, if you're not willing to look at why you don't put yourself first and exercise, then I don't have this conversation, because I'm telling you, I work with you for 10 or 12 years, who literally it was the same dance all the time, I had to stop promoting. I remember I went to Arizona and I spoke at one of my clients, she was a therapist, and she had a lot of like weight loss and emotional eating clients. And it was like last time that I did that, because I attracted like all kinds of people who didn't want to hear about how they could take care of their own health or what they were needed to do. They wanted the pill they wanted you know, weight loss and health and wellness on a general level especially weight loss attracts all kinds. And I was really clear I don't want to work with you pill poppers and I don't want to work with you like get lose 10 pounds quickly doing st*pid shit. And I'm I don't want to do any of that. Again, if you and I learned out the hard way. So when I started my show, I didn't really even want to do personal training that much. I mean, I did because that's what I had to offer at the time. But as it grew and got successful, and I was talking about law of attraction and astrology and building other programs, I'm still over here going okay, everybody, it's time to also add back in the physical part. And I have a recent client who found me because she was searching Dr. Krishna Northrup and I had Dr. northop on the show twice. And she's a follower of Dr. Northrup and then she started listening to my show. And then she reached out to me and said, she watched my webinars, download my book, and then she said, I want to work with you. And I said, okay, but I was very clear, I said, we're going to do the whole thing, like, we're going to start with the Food and Nutrition because that's, you know, make if that's where we need to start. But we're gonna get to the deep shit, which means you got to change some behaviors, but I look at some patterns and belief systems and how you cope and understanding your emotions and your needs and, and taking responsibility for those. And she said, I know I said, okay, because that's the only way I want to work with people now. So you have to know what your trainer knows in terms of what their goals are and what tools they use.

Ari Gronich 13:14  

So you're a law of attraction person, and you do a lot of this kind of work. Tell me about a client of yours or some experience that you've had, that's a dramatic shift, that dramatic change in how a person was because they were able to release that emotional pain.

JJ Flizanes 13:34  

So I have a had a client who was a client for about eight years, maybe close to 10.

older man,

very resistant to this kind of thing. But he was a client before I kind of started the show. And I was still talking about this stuff. I just, you know, I was testing it out on some of those can't teach an old dog new tricks kind of guys. And and I try and he you know, we sort of smile and wouldn't and I'd tell him he had back pain, lower back pain, any low back pain and take them out. And I'd say it's motional Hey, listen, and you know, and he just didn't listen forever. And I got to the point where I'm so frustrated at one point because he would take them out, he'd be out of work, he wouldn't come to work. And in his, you know, cancer has the same kind of, we're not the same, but there are personality traits of people who are more likely to develop cancer. And they're also personality traits of the quiet, angry people. The ones who actually one of my friends is a Gemini and he was an Indian, he meditated. He was calm, cool, collected, you would never thought he had an angry bone in his body, but he couldn't move because of the anger in his back. So you know, but I would yell at him and his brother all the time. So it doesn't have to take eight years and I've got other transformations when it comes to physical things with women and other clients. But that was one of the most dramatic because literally It was something I was beating him down with over the over time. And then he had the manifest getting pneumonia, to go, oh, because he didn't want to get sicker. He's like, oh, and then he listened to the book again in the podcast. And he was like, oh, and then he started dive deeper. And now it's like, Oh, I get it now. And it feels good and free. And if I have a twinge of back pain, it means I'm holding on to emotion and stress and something that I need to deal with. So it was great, I finally felt like I like, like, I conquered that, like, I won that one. And I was trying not to beat him down with it, because I had to, you know, when someone doesn't want to learn it, they're not going to learn it.

Ari Gronich 15:34  

So, you know, that's a good point. But stress is the number one killer. You know, people don't really understand that stress causes cancer, stress causes heart disease, stress causes all kinds of autoimmune disease and issues like that. And so we recognize that stress is an issue, how do we shift our behavior to mitigate the stress levels in our system?

JJ Flizanes 16:05  

So it ties into the question you asked about being a victim. When you think stress is outside of you, you're a victim to circumstance, stress isn't outside of you, because there are people handling the same circumstance differently than you are. So when you take responsibility for your story, you're telling yourself and another body of work that I use a lot and kind of make my own is nonviolent communication by Dr. Marshall Rosenberg. And there are three questions that I pull out of there. And there's also a needs and feelings list. That that I give away to people as well as a vibrational scale from Abraham and law of attraction to see where you are on the vibrational scale. So if you want to feel better, how can I you're not going to jump from depression to joy, you're going to move up the scale. And it may take a little time, it may take a long time. But even if you go from depression to anger, you're moving in the right direction. You don't want to stay at anger, but you want to move up the scale. And you want to know that anger is better than depression. And that anger is at least taking your power back when depression is giving your power away. 

Ari Gronich 17:02  

Awesome. Thank you so much. You know,

is there anything else that you feel could be beneficial to the audience? Because, you know, as as I said, at the beginning, we are here to create a new tomorrow to really master what is so that tomorrow can be better than it is today. And one of my sayings is we made this shit up. It's all a figment of our imagination anyway.

JJ Flizanes 17:29  

So thoughts become things. It has to be a thought before it's a thing. So your thoughts literally create your reality. It can't exist unless someone has thought about it. So your thoughts are more powerful than you think. And what is is a result of past thought that created your reality now, but your thoughts now are creating your future. And if you just keep thinking about what is you keep getting more of what is. So how do you it's it's not the easiest thing to start doing when you're so good at just reacting to what is for sure. But just like exercise, the more you practice it, the more you do it, the more it becomes natural is 

Ari Gronich 18:06  

awesome.

We're gonna leave the audience with that thought it can happen in your life all the time. So JJ, how can people get a hold of you again, just give us your details so that somebody if they want to work with you can do so?

JJ Flizanes 18:23  

Sure. JJFlizanes.com so JJFlizanes.com and forward slash podcasts to check out the podcast you can do Fordward slash feelings list to get those downloads that I talked about. And you can also do forward slash book if you want to get a copy of my free book the invisible fitness formula five secrets to release weight and then body shame but it's all at JJFlizanes.com .

Ari Gronich 18:47  

Awesome. Thank you so much. And this has been a another episode of create a new tomorrow. I hope you got an amazing amount of information and wrote a lot of notes so that you can take this down and actualize what it is you're doing in your world, and what you're passionate about so that you can create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich, and thank you so much for being here. We'll see you on the next episode.

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Ari Gronich 0:01  

Has it occurred to you that the systems we live by are not designed to get results? We pay for procedures instead of outcomes, focusing on emergencies rather than preventing disease and living a healthy lifestyle. For over 25 years, I've taken care of Olympians Paralympians a list actors in fortune 1000 companies. If I did not get results, they did not get results. I realized that while powerful people who control the system wants to keep the status quo. If I were to educate the masses, you would demand change. So I'm taking the gloves off and going after the systems as they are joining me on my mission to create a new tomorrow as I chat with industry experts, elite athletes, thought leaders and government officials about how we activate our vision for a better world. We may agree and we may disagree, but I'm not backing down. I'm Ari Gronich and this is create a new tomorrow podcast. Welcome back to another episode of create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. And I have with me JJ Flizanes . She is an empowerment strategist, host of the fit to love podcast show, Director of invisible fitness, Amazon best seller of fit to love how to get physically, emotionally and spiritually fit to attract the love of your life. And I could go on she's got so many credentials, including named the best personal trainer in Los Angeles by elite traveler magazine. And that is a big deal because there are a lot of personal trainers in Los Angeles. Just sayin. So, JJ, why don't you tell us a little bit about how you became this amazingly credentialed woman, and powerhouse?

JJ Flizanes 1:54  

Well, like you, I asked the hard questions, I and I don't settle for status quo. I am an independent thinker. I've always thought, Well, if they can do it, I can do it. And how do I do it? And I've always been a good problem solver. And the more information I get, the more problems I can solve. And when someone would come with a problem I didn't know the answer to when I go learn something else. So I have a pretty extensive toolbox with many, many tools that I customized for clients and shows and whomever we're talking to, whether it'd be about health and fitness, law of attraction, astrology, relationships, or even business and podcasting. Yeah, I've just, I love learning. And I also like you believe and see things very differently limiting beliefs and people who think, well, this is the way it is, and I go, No, that's the way you've accepted that it is. And that's the way you are co-creating that it's day when you focus on what is so how do we get out of that? Because I believe that, if you believe you can do it, you can, it doesn't matter the circumstances or how many other people say, you can't. So for me, it's really just about I deeply care about transformation in people and giving them empowerment and hope.

Ari Gronich 3:04  

That's awesome. You know, you're actually leading, you've led me into an area that I am very passionate about, which is why do people stay with the status quo? Why do why do we see a system that doesn't work that's broken, and yet accept it as it is as though we can. There's nothing we can do about it. So I'd like to discover a little bit about what you've discovered of the psychology of that and how to get people to shift outside of the status quo so that they can really make a difference in their own lives.

JJ Flizanes 3:40  

I think the first thing I want to point out is that there are different levels of consciousness. So not everybody is curious, not everybody sees things the same way. Not everybody takes a broader perspective. And that's where I started using astrology to sort of makes sense of some of those things. And in terms of why, why do I look at this and see it one way and react one way? Why does someone looking at the same exact thing react the opposite way? There's no right way. And and I think we're all on a spiritual path of awakening and understanding if we're taking the cues. And that's where not everybody takes the cues. So you know, there's a there's a basic law of attraction principle, and it's that you're the creator of your own reality. And without the proper science at the time for me to understand that at a deeper level, I resonated with it. 100%. And I knew it. And I thought to myself, well, I'm the creator of my own reality, and I don't like something. Heck, I can change it. That's great news. But then there are people who hear that statement, you're the creator of your own reality, and they go, I wouldn't have created any of this. That can't be true. No, I didn't don't shame me. I didn't make a big mistake by attracting these things. I don't want these things. I don't like these things. But as you know, and any kind of therapeutic or psychological outlook on life, there's really only two positions. You're either a victim or you're the creator of your own reality. That's it. There's only two you either somehow effect, what happens to you and attract it, or you're a victim to it, and 100% of the time when you're a victim to it, you will not find success or happiness, freedom or peace in whatever you're dealing with, because you're always disempowered. But if you take the role of I'm responsible for every single gosh darn bit of it, then we have some room to play with how you shift it. So one is taking power away and giving it away. And one is taking it back. And what gets in the way for a lot of people is they don't understand the how so that gets them tripped up, because they've been taught to believe that, you know, they don't know that energy is everything. They think that this matter, this desk is, you know, it's just a desk, it's what it's not mad, it's on energy, or that their emotions are that, why they see the way things the way they do, there are certain let's say astrological signs that have a very right and wrong, very right and wrong, and they don't understand why other people don't see it the same way. So take all that put it together. And the reason why people stay stuck, Well, a couple things. One, it's whatever life lesson they've got going on that they need to work out. But a lot of people don't even know I didn't know I was definitely a really very well versed victim growing up, I could tell you exactly why you hurt my feelings, and exactly what never to do again, so that you wouldn't do it again to me. And I thought, I'm a good communicator, because I am telling you, I'm picking out the exact thing you did that upset me. And I'm telling you not to do it again. And so that doesn't work. And then when I heard you're the creator of my own reality, changed my life completely, and I felt a new kind of empowerment. And I look back on what I had accomplished to that point that was about 2002. And I could see how when I believe something positive when I felt like I had such a desire for something to manifest. And I put my mind to it. And I took action based on supporting that unforeseen success that I hadn't had yet, but I was determined to create, it worked. And I didn't know about any of these things then. But as I reflected back and I thought, wow, I made that happen, I made that happen, I made that happened because I intended to well, if I made all those positive things happen, because I intended it to it also meant that I attracted the negative things. So, you know, again, when it comes to emotion and psychology and understand behavior, like I mean, for crying out loud, my own parents, I mean, my I would tell my parents everything I was learning and want to help them. A they're not asking for help. So they don't care. They would both just listen. And they'd say things like JJ here deep. Okay, that is what I got from my parents, who still to this day, do the same patterns and habits that they have, because they're in their bubble of safety. This is what they know, they're not curious, they're not looking to understand or take their power back in any different way. Not saying that they're unhappy people or there's anything wrong. But when contrast happens, a fight happens, something they don't want happens, you know, they have the same patterning. And it's a self fulfilling prophecy. So I think some people just get real stuck. And there again, there's people who are not going to be conscious until they cross over. So that's just how you know that's the, you know, when you have different flavors in a all the different colors of sprinkles, but please donate sprinkles, they have dye in them. But when you look at all the different colored like people the same way, there's all different sprinkled colors of people, whether it be race, religion, sexual orientation, you know, we all play a part in this tapestry of life and expansion. Not everybody's going to be conscious. So you're not going to convince the people who aren't asking, I have a meme that I put out during this very unique time and space in our world. And I said if they're not asking, they're not listening. So, so save your energy, and transcend yourself and, and allow them their journey and respect around. because too many times those of us who are recovering control issue people or, starting gate rescuers and wants to rescue everybody else, we're not looking at the addiction of the rescuer, who wants to rescue everybody else. We want to go control everybody else so that they behave in a way that pleases us or that we feel valuable. So I think that, you know, just depends on who you are, and what you want.

Ari Gronich 9:01  

Yeah, you know, I definitely have a place in me Where, I look at things that I don't like, say for instance, the health care system, and I go, Okay, this is clearly and this is clearly to me, but clearly not meant to get good results. The system as we've designed, it is clearly meant to treat symptoms and not get to root problems and to exacerbate illness rather than create health. And so, in my world, in my brain, and in my world, 100% of doctors know that what they're doing is not as optimal as what could be being done to give patients for instance, the health care that they need to give people weight loss, diabetes control, heart disease control, stress relief, etc. So I'm very passionate about moving that needle forward. And what you're saying is to not convince the naysayers, so to speak, or not try to convince people who aren't looking for this solution. So that's like, it's something that kind of gets a crawl in me a little bit because I like to battle. I like to debate, I like to have these conversations where we're really focused on how do we take what is and look at it for its reality, and then move that needle forward so that we can have a better what is tomorrow? So it's an interesting thing. And you know, some people are really going to not like the fact that you just called them victims, right? So can you unpack that a little bit more so that people can really get what that means to be a victim versus be a victor in any situation.

JJ Flizanes 11:03  

So we know that there are many sciences, the top level sciences being quantum physics, over 100 years old. And quantum physics, by the way, is the science behind law of attraction. So this isn't a belief system. This is a reality, it's physics. then underneath that we have epigenetics and epigenetics is that you create that the environment that you're in, creates a biology influences your body's production of neurotransmitters of appropriate chemicals that match the picture that you have, in your mind of your reality of the future of whatever you're telling yourself. That is above. Anything else that we're doing. immunology doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what name of science that applies to your body, and epigenetics is above it. It's why it's called epigenetics, it's above your genetics, it means that your genes get expressed, based on how you see the world and yourself in the world. And based on the influences of those belief systems, aka also emotions. So you know, there's no such thing as a cancer gene. But we all have the ability to manifest cancer. It's whether or not we create an environment for our body, both mental, physical, and emotional, and spiritual, that allows that cancer to grow. Or make sure that over our lifetime, it never ever expresses itself. So when it comes to things that just aren't true, like, let's say that someone can affect you in a certain way. They really can't, unless you let them. If you believe they can, then they will. And when it comes to being a victim, know that, and again, I mean, I even work with people who've been working with me for a while, who listened to the show who don't realize they're in victim mentality. But they're in a loop of, well, this person that and because of that, I feel this and it's like, No, no, that's not what it is. And again, we can break that down into, you know, feelings and needs. And using nonviolent communication to work through what that person's true needs are because we as a society don't deal with our feelings. We've never been taught  how to think about our belief systems. And again, I can one of the tools being astrology, why does someone Why does a child out of the womb have a personality? Do you think they learned that from you, they come out with a personality, and it isn't because you influenced it, it's because it's who they are in the world. And as they grow and change their beliefs will be shaped and influenced by who they're modeling and what they're told. But you know, you have two children in the family raised exactly the same way who respond opposite each other. And people say, I don't understand. They were raised in the same house by the same people, but they didn't interpret their situations the same. So it really becomes it becomes about understanding the one thing that drives our entire lives, which is how you feel anything, we do anything. And anything that we want. Everything is only because we think we'll feel better when we have it. And that's a story and keeps us safe. That's a result that gives us meaning or brings us joy or love. So we think, but if we look at like, what's the one thing that most people don't know anything about? And it's that emotional response, it's that it's that story that we tell ourselves, it's the limiting beliefs that we carry. It's this, it's this projection of who we think we are and the limitations that has with it. I listened to your trailer show about working with the with a paraplegic who had been told after what was 30 years they didn't even walk and here you come and I'm not and I you must probably some fire in you. If you're not already a fire sign whether it be an Aries or saj but or have Aries have one of those in your moon sign. Because I like to debate too, because I like to be right, because I'm smart. And a lot of times I am right and people hate that. But, but hey, I'm also a great problem solver. So if I'm on your side, you love me, because I helped you to break through stupid shit that you can't get over yourself because you can't see it. But that's a great example of What people do on a, that's a broad example that's really obvious about someone's ability to walk. But it's literally in our ability to succeed in anything from having love in our life from being successful business. We have these belief systems that we don't ever really question. They just are until something happens. I know, I'm with my boyfriend, Doug Sandler, it's he, he was a client of mine. And we were both married. And what happened was, my husband and I got separated on the same day that his ex wife left him. And there was this, like, opening, it cracked him open, because people like I used to think oh, I, you know, I wonder if we would have met before, like, we could have been together longer. And then I look at pictures, and I get this energy of like, Oh, you were asleep. You were not awake, you were not ready for this. And it took that, that situation to wake you up. Just like for a lot of people, they'll say cancer was the best thing that ever happened to me, because it woke me up. It changed my life, it stopped the patterns. It showed me where I was toxic in so many areas. And when I decided to take my power back and live life differently, now I'm happier because of cancer. And that's not everybody's story. Of course, as you know, some people take the diagnosis, and then they go down the path and they die. And not everyone's not gonna die, we're gonna die. But it's, but it's what do you do with that? And do you leverage your life path to teach you things? Or do you just think that everything happens? Like randomly, because it doesn't. But you can believe that. And again, no disrespect for those of you that believe that. It's not true. But it's how it's going to shape your life, and it will keep you disempowered, it'll keep you depressed, it'll keep you anxious, it'll keep you in addiction of control, thinking you have to control everything. And it's just not a happy place to be. And you're not going to find peace with that belief.

Ari Gronich 16:41  

Right? You know, I'm a Gemini, so I'm the air that fuels your fire.

JJ Flizanes 16:47  

Well, if I did your chart, I know there's firing you, I just don't know what you're aware.

Ari Gronich 16:51  

I'm sure it's somewhere but the air is enough. And the two personalities, you know, combined. And I'm Jewish, which kind of makes the two personalities into 10. And if you've ever seen, you know, 10 Jewish people in a room, you have 100 opinions. And so it kind of works that way. But that's why I like to argue all sides of a subject. And you have a picture behind you, it looks like

JJ Flizanes 17:21  

so it's one of my shows. So I have five shows, five, five podcasts that are every week. And the first one was fit to love, then spirit purpose and energy, nutrition, alternative medicine, health and wealth. And then the other one isn't on here. But I have I have five shows. So that's the picture of the show.

Ari Gronich 17:40  

Okay, so I'm recent, why I wanted to point that out is because you're so passionate about these multiple kinds of subjects. And a lot of people don't know how to activate themselves so that they can even be passionate about the one thing that they're passionate about. So they'll live their lives going to work 40 hours a week, you know, watch TV when they go home, and they have something stir inside them, but they don't know what to do in order to activate that in order to make that a reality in their life. How is it that health and vitality are important in that aspect?

JJ Flizanes 18:25  

Well, again, it's all based on energy and frequency, the higher the frequency, the better you feel. And if you take care of your body, and you put yourself at sort of a higher level of frequency by eating clean, organic, non GMO foods, plenty of fruits and vegetables, not fruits, but plenty of vegetables, plenty of new nutrients, clean meats, healthy fats, low carb, if you're lots of clean water alkaline as well and get your minerals in there. If you're doing all the right things for the body, the body is happy, and it's clean. And it's not stopped by having digestive issues of gas or bloating or, you know, irritable bowel syndrome. And so when you have that kind of thing happening in your body, it drags your energy down. And if you have any pain, if you have neck pain or back pain, or no pain will drag you into that negative emotion, which isn't a place to be in touch with your intuition or your creativity. In order for you to really hear your intuition to feel that impulse to have that great idea. You have to be in a higher vibration, you have to be in a better feeling place and if your body feels like crap, and you're not going to get there. So you're not doing yourself a service by eating low vibrating foods, not to mention what happens when you eat too much sugar have too much caffeine, you have adrenal fatigue, and you're pumping insulin through your body. So you're going to be sleepy and lethargic and your brain fog. You're having gluten and dairy and that's making brain fog and you have congestion and skin issues. Okay. None of that is going to support you hearing the inner voice that says I should be doing this or what if I go there, so the body does absolutely propelling you forward, that when it's healthier, and you can connect with your intuition much clearer when you feel good.

Ari Gronich 20:06  

Yeah, absolutely, you know, I have a lot of experience with corporate wellness. And that's a message that I like to get even across to the corporations who may be looking at the possibility of doing corporate wellness programs and creating a core culture in their company of health. The benefit to them is that those things that you just mentioned, the brain fog goes away, the depression goes away, the other things that are stopping people, like neck pain and back pain go away. And now all of a sudden, you have a productive, loyal, healthy, happy, healthy member of your community that's in your business. And that spikes your bottom line. You know, I look at the the health care system, you and I are both, you know, personal trainers, for instance. And there's such a difference between one personal trainer and another, somebody who went to one school versus another, somebody who's been having struggles with their health, and another How does somebody find the right person, for them to go to, if you know, all they're doing is listening to somebody say, hey, you should go to my person, they're the best.

JJ Flizanes 21:22  

Well, I mean, that could work. Depending on if you feel in alignment with the person referring you, and they are in alignment with the person who they're working with, I had to stop promoting personal training. I mean, I was, I was over at anyway, because I if someone's not willing to do the mind, body soul work, they're not willing to look at the emotions, they're not willing to look at why you overeat, you're looking, if you're not willing to look at why you don't put yourself first and exercise, then I don't have this conversation, because I'm telling I work with you for 10 or 12 years, who literally, it was the same dance all the time, oh, I'm gonna go on this diet, oh, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna count my calories over here. I'm gonna do this exercise over here. And it's like, you're an emotional eater, until you deal with the stress that you have in your life. And you make different choices. This is the pattern that you have, you're going to either drink too much, you're going to eat too much, or you're going whatever. And, and it got to be it was it was maddening. And I started out as Yeah, Personal Training, I'm really good. I'm very good at all of that, especially when it comes to the joints and making sure people don't get hurt biomechanically, as well as physiology, using physiology to really produce results. And again, making it super efficient. So if you're going to work out, don't hurt yourself, preserve your joints, and build muscle and build your metabolism. So all of that is really great. But again, it's only it's a symptom, someone's not working out, right, someone's not or enough or doing the right things, or someone isn't eating well, constantly, there's a deeper reason and it isn't because you don't know how isn't because you don't know that french fries are bad for you, if you eat them often, right balance is one thing where you know, I believe that there is people can have balance and love the things and enjoy the things that they really love within balance and find substitutions instead of restrictions. But I had to stop promoting I remember I went to Arizona and I spoke at one of my clients, she was a therapist and she had a lot of like weight loss and emotional eating clients and it was like last time that I did that because I attracted like all kinds of people who didn't want to hear about how they could take care of their own health or what they were needed to do. They wanted the pill they wanted you know weight loss and health and wellness on a general level especially weight loss attracts all kinds and I was really clear I don't want to work with you pill poppers and I don't want to work with you like get lose 10 pounds quickly doing stupid shit. And I'm I don't want to do any of that. Again, if you and I learned that the hard way. So when I started my show, I didn't really even want to do personal training that much. I mean, I did because that's what I had to offer at the time. But as it grew and got successful and I was talking about law of attraction and astrology and building other programs, I'm still over here going okay, everybody, it's time to also add back in the physical part. And I have a recent client who found me because she was searching Dr. Christian Northrup and I had Dr. Northrup on the show twice. And she's a follower of Dr. Northrup and then she started listening to my show. And then she reached out to me and said, she watched my webinars, download my book, and then she said, I want to work with you. And I said, okay, but I was very clear. I said, we're going to do the whole thing. Like we're going to start with the Food and Nutrition because that's, you know, maybe it's that's where we need to start. But we're gonna get to the deep shit, which means you got to change some behaviors, but I look at some patterns and belief systems and how you cope and understanding your emotions and your needs and taking responsibility for those. And she said, I know I said, okay, because that's the only way I want to work with people now. So you have to know what your trainer knows in terms of what their goals are and what tools they use. I've got two people that I work with, or two people, two friends of mine that are podcasters and men and one or three I'll be three. Right and it wasn't like recently I had this aha I had this aha that one of them who I love very much is real all about what Weight loss. So all of his shows all of his conversation about weight loss, number one, weight loss, weight loss, weight loss, not health, but weight loss. And then the other guy, I was like, Oh, he's much more health and like holistic, even though I still think he cares more about what people look like. But like, I'm like, Oh, he's one more, much more well rounded. And then we got the other guy over here, it's all about how you look. So not just weight loss, but you know, building muscle being leaner, and they all care about that. And I'm not saying that's not okay to care about. But I just saw the differences. So clearly, I'm like, oh, you're talking about deep stuff. And over here, you're talking about surface stuff. And it's why the surface stuff doesn't actually work long term, you got to go to the deeper stuff, because it's all connected, all of this is connected.

Ari Gronich 25:41  

Yeah, you know, one of one of my talents, I guess, one of my skill sets is doing five to 10 hour, deep emotional release bodywork sessions. And they, you know, you say the issues are in the tissues, that's the saying that we have in this field, the issues are in the tissues, they're stuck in your muscle cell memory. And muscles do have memory, that's how you can learn to brush your teeth a few times, and then you'll always know how to do that, or ride a bicycle. But they also store the memory of traumas, and especially emotional traumas linked to certain organs in the body linked to certain aspects of your body. If you say to somebody you know, who's scared, where do you feel that fear, you know, they'll all have a spot, and it's going to almost inevitably be the same spot on every person, or worry, you know, the worries here, the anger, his liver, I mean, I could go on anger, his liver, worry, his kidneys, the sweetness of life is your pancreas. So if you're, if you feel yourself not experiencing life's sweetness anymore, or joy is in your lungs, you're not breathing deeply, right. And so we relate all this to the body in a way that people can understand. But they don't understand that their emotions are stored inside of their body. And so I've done a lot of work with releasing the pain body, the emotional pain body, so that we can then release the physical health conditions. So you're a law of attraction person, and you do a lot of this kind of work. Tell me about a client of yours or some experience that you've had, that's a dramatic shift that dramatic change in how a person was because they were able to release that emotional pain.

JJ Flizanes 27:46  

So I have a had a client who was a client for about eight years, maybe close to 10. older man, very resistant to this kind of thing. But he was a client before I kind of started the show. And I was still talking about this stuff. I just, you know, I was testing it out on some of those can't teach an old dog new tricks kind of guys. And and I try and he you know, we sort of smile and wouldn't and I'd tell him he had back pain, lower back pain, any low back pain didn't take them out. And I'd say it's motional he listen, and you know, and he just didn't listen forever. And, and I got to the point where I'm so frustrated at one point because he would take them out, he'd be out of work, he wouldn't come to work. And in his, you know, cancer has the same kind of, well, not the same, but there are personality traits of people who are more likely to develop cancer. And they're also personality traits of the quiet, angry people. The ones who actually one of my friends is Gemini and he was an Indian, he meditated. He was calm, cool, collected, you would never thought he had an angry bone in his body, but he couldn't move because of the anger in his back. And so this client, not a Gemini, Leo, middle child, a lot of frustrations in life. I could see them and like we talked about them. But even though I said it and I didn't make a joke, he be taken out by his back patio, what happened yesterday. And then he'd even be able to link it, he'd be linking it to a conversation to something happened with his brother, something happened with his wife. And you know, something that okay, maybe he's kind of getting it. And then so in terms of his life path, he got to he had pneumonia, he got pneumonia, and I'm sending him stuff that talks about the psychological underbelly of pneumonia and why we have that right. And so he finally like that, woke them up, pneumonia woke them up. And the same book, the same podcasts that I had recommended. He watched and listened to 10 years before eight years before they was resistant to then Now finally, woke him up hasn't had back pain since. And if he gets a twinge, he knows it's emotional. And I did a whole show with him on it because I was like, why didn't you listen He's like, well, because you're not a doctor. Okay, cuz he's that kind of guy, right? Forget that I say all these other things, and I keep getting doctors who all the time, basically, you know, say really good things about me and what I know. And it's fine. I'm not a doctor, he's right. I'm not a doctor. But again, I would I know, I'm not just about saying something without teaching somebody what it means I'm not going to say you have this and leave it at that, I'm going to explain why I'm going to show you how it acts in your life, so that you learn it too. And then I'm going to show you where you duplicated all the time. And why this is not a random occurrence. This is not a nerve in your back. This is not because you bent over to brush your teeth. That this is, you know, so you finally got it. And then you know, but I hope to never do that. Again. It was eight years, I was like eight years, like it took so long. And now he understands. So now, you know, he's gotten to that point. And I think he started to go to like traditional therapy because he sees the season. He sees the stress in his life because men don't want to admit they have flippin emotions. I'm like, it's emotional that like, that sounds too feminine. That sounds too weak. And I'm like, but if you ask the same men, Are you stressed? Oh, yeah, I'm stressed. And it's like, Do you understand what stress is? Stress is emotion. It's your perception of something that produces a negative emotion that you lump into stress. But it is done by your brain, perceiving something and making it mean something stresses in the air, like rain, where its gonna fall on you, if you don't try, you have to create it with the way that you see the world and you interpret things. So you know, but I would yell at him and his brother all the time. So it doesn't have to take eight years. And I've got other transformations when it comes to physical things with women and other clients. But that was one of the most dramatic because it literally was something I was beating him down with over the over time. And then he had the manifest getting pneumonia, to go Oh, because he didn't want to get a sticker. He's like, oh, and then he listened to the book again, in the podcast. And he was like, oh, and then he started dive deeper. And now it's like, Oh, I get it now. And it feels good and free. And if I have a twinge of back pain, it means I'm holding on to emotion and stress and something that I need to deal with. So it was great, I finally felt like I like I conquered that, like I won that one. And I was trying not to beat him down with it. Because I had to you know, when someone doesn't want to learn it, they're gonna learn it. So.

Ari Gronich 32:15  

So, you know, that's a good point. But stress is the number one killer. You know, people don't really understand that stress causes cancer, stress causes heart disease, stress causes all kinds of autoimmune disease and issues like that. And so we recognize that stress is an issue, how do we shift our behavior to mitigate the stress levels in our system?

JJ Flizanes 32:46  

So it ties into the question you asked about being a victim. When you think stress is outside of you, you're a victim to circumstance, stress isn't outside of you, because there are people handling the same circumstance differently than you are. So when you take responsibility for your story, you're telling yourself and another body of work that I use a lot and kind of make my own is nonviolent communication by Dr. Marshall Rosenberg. And there are three questions that I pull out of there. And there's also a needs and feelings list. That I give away to people as well as a vibrational scale from Abraham and law of attraction to see where you are on the vibrational scale. So if you want to feel better, how can I you're not going to jump from depression to joy, you're going to move up the scale. And it may take a little time, it may take a long time. But even if you go from depression to anger, you're moving in the right direction. You don't want to stay at anger, but you want to move up the scale. And you want to know that anger is better than depression. And that anger is at least taking your power back when depression is giving your power away. So we have to actually be more conscious about and aware of our own like mind, our own conscious brain of our own possible subconscious programming. And how you do that start to start looking at what taking responsibility again, for the surface of the situation. So I use it's called a needs and feelings list. And I even have one right here. Because I use it with all my clients. And everybody has them and I give it away on the show. Okay, so its needs and feelings list. And right here there's 100 different feelings, feeling words, most people would be able to say well, how do you feel? I feel good, good is not a feeling good as an interpretation. How are we How are you feeling? I'm feeling mad, okay, there's variations of mad that is one most people know mad, sad and happy. Okay, but there are 100 different variations of feeling words. Now that that's one thing. But then let's move to like, where it really is for everybody. If you want to change your level of stress, you have to figure out what need of yours is not being met. What perceived need that you have that is not being met that's causing these negative feelings. Now when you can determine the need and by the way, the need does not return does not rely on anybody else. So the strategy The third step is to figure out a few, not one a few different strategies to get your need met and Can't require anyone else be different. You cannot tell someone else to be different so that you feel better. If it involves other people, then you can find other ways to get the need met. And maybe you ask for someone to help you. But you can't make it about them changing, so you feel better, because again, that's victim consciousness, that's saying your behavior controls the way I feel. Not true. Their behavior creates a story that you tell yourself that you respond to with negative emotion, change the story, disconnect from the person, recognize your own need, and then take care of it then doesn't matter. So it's one of the most empowering, I talked about transformation, every time I do this workshop live. For people at any of my events, I always have at least a handful of people it's like, because all of a sudden, they don't feel victimized, they don't feel like stress is just part of life, they actually can do something about it, they can take steps to getting their needs met, and then even knowing what their need is.

Ari Gronich 35:56  

That's a really clear thing for people to kind of get, I just want them to get that a little bit deeper for them to know what it is they feel. So that they can then make a decision on if that's how they want to feel or not. That's part of what I think you're saying,

JJ Flizanes 36:18  

here's the bottom line, the only time you feel negative emotion is because you have a need, that's not being met. Either a perception of a need not being met a fear of a need not being met, or an actual need not being met. Second step, it's not anyone else's job to get that need met, but yours. So you have to determine how to do that. And it could be creating a boundary, it could be depending on the circumstance. That's why most people who are in arguments are talking about two different things. I'll give you an example. One of my clients is in business with her parents and her dad who is not really involved in the business, but he's sort of like the head of the business. And she actually runs the business. She asked me on a coaching call, I have an inner circle membership. And on the coaching call, she said to me how like she wanted an apology, because that was freaking out and slipping out because she created boundaries, she wanted to separate church and state and said, Let's only talk about business like at these times. Well, he didn't like that. So he got very mad. And he got a little bit of like angry and not so nice in his messages because he was frustrated. And she wanted an apology from him. And I said, Well, he doesn't think he deserves an apology, you deserve an apology, because he has something he wants to talk about. And you're denying him the freedom to have that conversation. You need a boundary, he needs freedom, let's figure out a way for both of those needs to get met. And we'll have no problem but you're not arguing about the same thing, he doesn't care, he's not trying to change your boundary, he just has something bothering him and he wants to address it, he doesn't want to wait on your timeline, he wants to be able to have a way to have an outlet. So there are two different needs. But so many times we think we're arguing about the same thing we're not because everybody has a different need and a different perception of a need not being met.

Ari Gronich 37:57  

Right. So you know, I'm gonna relate this to kind of the riots that we've been having, and some of the movements that we've been having both the BLM movements, the me too movements, these movements, a lot of them what you should be doing it this way you should be shouldn't be doing it that way. There's a lot of should and shouldn't, there's a lot of I'm uncomfortable, so you need to change your behavior, right with, with all of what's going on, I'm uncomfortable with you not wearing a mask, so you need to wear a mask, right? Or I'm uncomfortable with you not with you meant wearing the mask. So you need to not wear a mask. So either way it goes, you know, we have this immense amount of energy around what and how people should and shouldn't be communicating what and how they should be doing, and so on. And, you know, I'll take it to this to the me too movement, because I've done a lot of work with women who have had sexual abuse. And one of the things that I noticed, and I noticed this with myself, I've done that work because I was a man who was sexually abused from age three until I was in my early teens, over to over time, different people, different experiences. And I thought to myself self, you know, why am I attracting this? Right? So I don't know why that would have been the thought that I would have had at that point. Why is this something I'm attracting? And then I noticed as I started to do that work, that inevitably, the people who experienced that experienced it more than once, it was almost always an ongoing situation or something that happened multiple times in multiple different situations. And so why is it that people continually attract that victim status to themselves, even if they think that They've cleared whatever that energy is that they attracted it the first time.

JJ Flizanes 40:06  

Because they still identify themselves as a victim. And I'm not saying that that's, we have to look at, again, frequency of Who am I? And what do I feel about myself? What's my picture? What's my, what's my amount of self confidence, self love, trust, and trusting in that things happen for a reason. believe in something bigger than you believing in understand that you're not the first time that you've been here, it's probably not the last, and that we're eternal beings. And we don't actually die, we just recycle. So if depending on the frame of mind that you have, if you're an atheist, and this is it, this is the only time I'm going to be here. And none of that matters. And this is all BS. And so there's going to be a certain energy surrounding everything that happens in the the scrutiny and the importance to what is happening right now. When you have a broader perspective, you can chill out a little bit, because just like it's not my responsibility, like things are gonna happen, whether I'm here or not, the earth has been spinning on its axis for billions of years, and it will continue to do so. And me, acting like a jerk and putting plastic on the street and an ocean. While it's not good for anybody, it isn't going to all of a sudden make the earth explode. But it's that balance between those two things. I've have a person that I know who was robbed. And this is, this is years ago when I, I was at the beginning of law of attraction. And I understood it but not to the point that I do today and the ability of me to answer pretty much any question in a law of attraction way. But she said, Well, I didn't try. I didn't want that. No, but she's in victim energy, she has victim energy. So she was more easily victimized because she literally lives in the space of lack of trust, looking over your shoulder, worried when you're in worry, you're out of your and out of alignment with who you are. And when you're in alignment with who you are, you get messages, you get intuitive hits, you get an impulse to turn left instead of right, which leads you into a better place. And if you would have turned left. So it's when we're out of alignment with who we are. And we don't trust and we're worried. And we're wondering, and we're having anxiety, and we have no expressed emotion, and we're holding on to this happen to me because I'm bad, or I deserve this in some way. Or it must be something I did. That's why I went back to when you can take a situation regardless how bad it is. And I have a girl that I knew she's a business owner and she had lost a baby. And I remember hearing like her take on that baby and how it sort of she, you know, she was sad. At the same time she celebrated the life that the baby live for as long as it did, she celebrated the connection she could have now with the Spirit, in meditation with that baby still present in a non physical form. She transcended what a lot of people think is untranscendable Oh, no, you lost a child, you'll never get over that. It's like, well, they may never get over that. But how you how you are in relationship to that absolutely has to do with what you believe about life. And if you understand, my ex husband's family went to Palm Springs, we were all there. And I forget which celebrity is very, they're one of the Rat Pack, I think and we went wasn't Bob Hope. But maybe, I don't know. Anyway, we went to the cemetery, because I want to see the stone. And I wanted to and I was like in my head screaming, he's not there. Or when my when my cousin passed away, and we went to the funeral, or you know, when my aunt's looking in the ground, I'm like he's not there. He's actually right here. And if everyone understood that we are mostly non physical, then you wouldn't be so attached to this body. And you would know that you can have an experience right now. So it's not that when someone has, it's when he tells the story of I was victimized, and now the world is unsafe, I must have done something wrong, I must not be worthy, I must be unlovable. Therefore, when that belief is there, you keep attracting that to prove yourself, right. Because whether you believe in the law of attraction or not, whatever you believe is what you're going to manifest. So if you don't period, it's just the way that it is you will literally your brain will seek out just like in relationship, it will seek out evidence to prove you're right about whatever it is you believe. So if your belief is that I'm broken, there's something wrong with me, you know, Gay Hendricks I work a lot with Gay Hendricks book, the big leap. And we do a lot of work around upper limits, and the four reasons why people upper limit themselves and the first one is feeling fundamentally flawed. And even though most people don't want to admit to that I am amazed at how many people don't actually recognize that within themselves. It's like, that's one of the major beliefs that keep us in victim because you believe somewhere because your dad didn't treat you the way you wanted to do. Your mom didn't give you the love that you wanted. Your girlfriend or boyfriend dumped you when you were 12 whatever circumstance happened to you that made that angered a belief that I'm not good enough. I'm not smart enough and I don't deserve love that keeps manifesting in someone's life when that's not addressed, because it's not true. But when you believe it's true, your life will reflect that you think it's true, but what attracts in your life.

Ari Gronich 44:58  

So let's give the listeners some techniques that they can do in order to express that and kind of get over those belief systems. So whether no matter what they are, you know, if somebody is listening in, they're probably going, aha aha aha , during this conversation going, yep, that's me. Yep, that's me, I feel that. So what can they do in order to shift those long term lifelong belief systems in an actual way that actualizes the difference long term doesn't just talk to the surface of it.

JJ Flizanes 45:41  

Well, 12% of our brain is conscious, and the other 88% of subconscious. So while the subconscious rules you, and those belief systems, I wouldn't actually start there, I would start with the conscious brain, I would start with what you can hear yourself, think and hear yourself talk about. And I would recommend, and I can give you the link, it's JJflazanes.com forward slash feelings list, you can download the list I just showed you along with the Abraham law of attraction, frequencies of emotion, the emotional scale, so you can see where where you are. And those are two documents that you can use every day to say, Where was I today? What dominant emotion did I carry with me all day long. And if you're in the Negative Zone, on the on the feeling on the scale? Well, that's the frequency that you're at. That's what you're attracting things of like, of like frequency and vibration. So how do you get a little higher? How can you reach for joy? How can you focus more on things that bring you happiness and joy and freedom? On the flip side, I think it'd be great emotional learning, actually had recommended this for a teenager. Once recently, you take the feelings and needs list and you print up 20 of them. And every day. Anytime you get a ping of like some negative emotion, you're frustrated, you're mad, because look, if you're happy, you're not doing this, you don't care, you're happy, you're good. It's only when you're negative. So I'm worried I have I, you know, I can feel I can't sleep, you go to the list, and you can circle like date the list. Maybe Maybe you can maybe if you know why, oh, I had a fight with my husband or wife, you write the fight. And then you just do the exercise. Step one, what am I feeling circle the feelings? Step two, look at the needs, what need is not being met? that's causing this feeling but perceived need step three What strategies can I take to get the need met? that don't require that person to be different? Okay, what can I do because what like a lot of moms, I have another client of mine in the inner circle. And she was on a coaching call Saturday as well. And she was talking about how she's tired and her husband and she loves her husband, she supports her husband and but he takes seven hours to go work with his band. And she raises the two kids and goes to work and takes care of him and maybe gets 15 minutes of meditation. I'm like, honey, you need balance. You need freedom and space. So I think it's time to ask your husband, hey, for every seven hours you get Can I have to work? Can we renegotiate this time slot because it's very simple, you're overwhelmed. You're dealing with your kids, your husband, your job running the house, and you don't have any space or time for you. So you very simply have a need for space. That's it. So now how can you get that need met? Well, you can ask your husband to help and if he can't, then you can maybe ask a neighbor that was one of my suggestions. You have a neighbor or someone close by with kids at the same age and you can swap one day they take them the other you take them that way. You always have a day scheduled once a week or so to give yourself space. Especially moms think why should we want to do at all no unit should be able you need space. So that would be my suggestion to start to uncover and put words and awareness and consciousness to your needs. And it's not needs meaning you're needy, we all have there's 86 needs on that sheet you have 86 basic human needs. Rest is one of them. Play is one of them. How many people need play, lots of people need play. Laughter how many people need laughter freedom right? So these are things when you and you can do the exercise of just circling the needs you have in general forget you're in a trigger moment just say hey, which one or all of these needs are not being met for me currently, and then just circle all the major players that probably run your choices and your reactions to your life.

Ari Gronich 49:17  

Yeah, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs, as well as a great tool for figuring out just the basic needs of living and being a human being, you know, shelter and food and like, because that's, in many cases, people are struggling with Maslow's hierarchy of needs right now, especially with COVID. And the current situation people have been out of work for so long and, and so on and their needs are being you know, not met, and so it's a great tool. I love the nonviolent communication tools. One of my Close friends is Scott Thomas, who's known as love coach Scott. And he works with nonviolent communication and compassionate communication and those kinds of things. And so that's a really great tool. Is there maybe two other tools that you could recommend for somebody who is struggling with their health struggling with their life in general, and they do want to change, they just don't even know where to start?

JJ Flizanes 50:31  

Well, I mean, the free tools I have, obviously are behind me and my shows, right. So I address a lot. And you can just take a look at the show and see something that sticks out, I have a show that I recently published maybe eight weeks ago called How to feel better right now. And that's a tool right there, I give you three law of attraction tools within that show to use to feel better right now. And again, it is based in law of attraction, but anyone can hear it or use it or utilize it. And maybe you don't do all three of them, but maybe you use one of them. But the show is free. And again, I give tools all the time. In fact, one of my mastermind clients said to me, You, you need to do a better job of telling people that you give real tools. She's like, I listen, Oprah, I listen to Bernie Brown, but like, they don't give me tools, like you give me actual things to do. And I was like, Okay, so what do you want me to do? Like just tell people that I give tools,like people listen to my show don't need to work with me necessarily, because they get enough tools that they figure it out on their own. And then I get an email saying, You changed my life, it's amazing. And I've never met them or talk to them. Because I give the tools of here's how I get the books, I give the resources, just go do it. And if you get stuck, and you want help, of course, I'm happy to work with you. But I would say how to feel better. Right now in my name, I'm going to give you an episode number because it appears on all the shows. So just pick which one you're attracted to and find how to feel better right now.

Ari Gronich 51:47  

Awesome. Thank you so much. You know, is there anything else that you feel could be beneficial to the audience, because, you know, as I said, at the beginning, we are here to create a new tomorrow to really master what is so that tomorrow can be better than it is today. And one of my sayings is we made this shit up. It's all a figment of our imagination anyway. You know, we created society, we created the buildings that are in the society, we created the laws that are in the society, we created the money. And a lot of people take that money thing and the housing thing and they think that it's real, they think that it is reality. And they have to live their life in order to get it rather than live their life, knowing that it is what is the result of what they love. And so you know, I'm just looking for something that really drives home, we made this up, we can make it a better, and that's your life too.

JJ Flizanes 52:59  

So thoughts become things. It has to be a thought before it's a thing. So your thoughts literally create your reality. Another great episode on my show was with Dawson church from mine to matter, again, also talking about epigenetics and quantum physics. And it can't exist unless someone has a thought about it. So your thoughts are more powerful than you think. And what is, is a result of past thought that created your reality now, but your thoughts now are creating your future. And if you just keep thinking about what is you keep getting more of what is. So how do you it's, it's not the easiest thing to start doing when you're so good at just reacting to what is for sure. But just like exercise, the more you practice it, the more you do it, the more it becomes natural. You know, I was walking on the beach today with my boyfriend dog and I realized after we had a conversation about something that I manifested something so cool, that I it was almost amazing to me because I am a great manifester. But sometimes because I'm been living in such a high frequency for so long recently and and when contrast happens to me that's nothing to say I don't live a contrast free life you know, when things happen you leverage the contrast you say this bad thing that I don't like is showing me what I want now and so you focus forward on the what now versus being complaining about the what is of whatever's happened to you to ask for something better. And then you act in accordance to it's like, you know, I explained law of attraction like a dial on a radio. If you're wanting to listen to 93.7 FM you're not going to hear what's on that station if you're on 101.2 we all understand that frequency very clearly. Yet somehow emotions and frequency make us like blackout well I don't know what you're talking about. It's really simple. That when you're in a your emotions are your frequencies and when you're in when you create in your mind, like I said the beginning of the show, the only reason you want anything you want health, relationship, money, whatever, you just want it because you think you'll feel better when you have it. But you can feel better now without having it. And in fact, you have to feel better now to get it. If you can't believe it's true, if you can't see it in its in the future if you can't feel it and actualize it in your brain as a reality, and it can't come true. So my boyfriend's a, he's a podcaster Podcast Producer, he's a bar mitzvah DJ. And he also does weddings. And he hasn't worked in a while, obviously, right, he has all his things were cancelled because of live events. And I missed that part of him DJing because he's a great dancer, he takes command of the room. And he's funny and, and not to mention, I would love to be dancing, I haven't danced in a while. So I said to him, one recently, I said, I really miss you DJing. Not that I wanted to fly back and forth all the time. And then I said to him, maybe a month before that, I'd like to go to a wedding with you sometime like him as a DJ like I'd like to accompany to a wedding. And let's add to this, that I don't want to get on a plane to go all the way to the other side, because I don't like wearing masks because they're stupid. Sorry, everybody who disagrees with that, but the particle of a virus is smaller than then the mask holes that you have unless you're wearing plastic. And as you I'm sure you know, your instinct says I want to breathe oxygen. And the longer we stopped doing this, the more fear takes over and people get sick because they're literally making themselves sick by the fear that they're in. Will I wear a mask when I have to to walk into a grocery store, of course, but I don't want to wear one and make people think that I agree with this at all on any level. So I'm not going to suffer on a plane for six, six hours to go back to these ghosts with a mask on and be muzzled and want to kill myself. So and I'm sorry if that upsets any of you, but it's I don't I I'm all about you do what's best for you. But don't tell me what to do about me. My intuition knows what's right for me and knows what's best for my body as well as yours does. I won't tell you not to do it. But don't tell me to do it. That's, again, this whole victim thing. If people understood the power, they had to control their own house, that someone who has doesn't have a mask on if you think they can affect you, your stress level, your cortisol levels, your immune system will respond to that belief system making it true. You actually I went to Italy during COVID. And right I get people I didn't. I'm not I'm untouchable in this right now. Because I don't subscribe to that I take good care of myself. My immune system rocks. I am in a high frequency. So digress. Anyway, they want to go back to the east coast with him for this wedding. And I and there's also in Manhattan Beach, we have fireworks every Christmas and I love it my favorite favorite thing. And so I'd heard him yesterday say hey, I don't see anything on the schedule for December 12. I just got a gig, a wedding. And I was like thinking Oh, it's in. It's on the east coast. And he's gonna miss the fireworks. And I said, Okay, go well, you'll miss the fireworks. And then today I was walking and I said, so are you going to go back in November and December. And he said, No, the weddings here, the weddings here in San Diego on the 12th, which means I can come with you go to a wedding, you're going to DJ, we're going to go the fireworks The next day, I couldn't have made it better. I'm like and then of course, we had a wine tasting weekend scheduled that weekend, which we moved to the weekend before. So what like all sit perfectly, the universe is conspiring God, source energy, whatever you think whatever your higher power is literally conspiring for your good, but you have to be open to receiving it. And one thing most people are terrible at is receiving, allowing, surrendering, release control, trusting on a much deeper and deeper level, trusting that there's a reason for things, trusting you have power beyond you, even your even understanding of the power that you have. And trusting that you can change. And you can change anything you want to as long as you want to. And as long as you want to do the work to adjust whatever you need to to do that. So don't be fooled, you are not powerless, you are not a victim. And you have the power to create any change that you want to in your life. And that is what I would leave everybody with.

Ari Gronich 58:48  

Nice, I appreciate that. You know, you mentioned the particle size I've been mentioning particle size on masks, you know that masks take you 10 microns, the viruses point one micron. And you know, one is bigger and than the other and it's not the right one. So if you're breathing and somebody sneezes on you, and you're wearing a mask, you're going to suck that virus right into the into the mask and breathe it in. So I say you know, I grew up with, with etiquette classes, Emily Post, you know, and we learned to cover our faces when we were coughing or sneezing. So, you know that the entire argument that I've heard is that you don't want the speed to go out 10 to 15 feet at 100 whatever miles per hour of a sneeze and whatever it is of a cough. Well, if you cover your face, it's not going to go out so if you you know just to proper etiquette. But no, I totally appreciate that and and you know what you're saying is live your best life. And if you have something that's an obstacle, turn it into a solution versus become a victim to that obstacle. Right. So if you can imagine yourself, you're in an obstacle course of called life. And the idea is not to get stopped, it's to take the obstacle and either move around it above it below it, you know, somehow through it. Now you're having a completely different perspective. And so I really appreciate that, because I don't think that people understand what they consider to be a victim, they might consider somebody else to be victim, not them. Right? However, they're displaying that victim status about the other person. And so I know for me and my marriage, that is no longer there was a lot of that on both sides. And, and it's not the thing that helped get rid of those situations, right? It was the blunt force of the situation of the divorce or the blunt force of trauma, that allowed me to shift. And you know, I've told people this, before somebody asked me how I became who I am. And I said, trauma, trauma forged me like steel, like a sword, folded and fired and cooled and fired. And, you know, that was what forged me into becoming somebody that can be here and talk to you. And there was a long time that I had trouble, I wouldn't be on a camera. I was told that I had a great face for radio. And, and I believed that at some point. And so, you know, there are so many places and ways, for me, for you for the audience to grow and shift what they are. And you know, I'll leave it with this, Jim Rohn used to say, and I'm going to paraphrase what he said, but basically said that people have the unique ability to see something there before it is in existence. So for instance, he's talking about a hotel, and the hotel, somebody had to see the hotel there, before there could be a hotel owner, they had to be able to see it, and they had to be able to draw it and they had to be able to, you know, it all started out in the imagination and what you just said about your life and about the things that you've been able to manifest. That's exactly the same thing. It's, we have that ability to vision, what it is that we want, and then act to create that. And wouldn't it be better if you're, say, have a five year goal right that to, you know, he says, and I'm a paraphrase again, you're in five years, you're going to arrive, you're either going to arrive at a well designed destination or an undesigned destination.

Don't you want to arrive at a well designed destination? Well, in order to design it, you have to vision it. First, you have to see it done, you have to experience the emotions of it. That's kind of law of attraction, you have to experience the emotions of it being done before it's ever come into reality. That right?

JJ Flizanes 1:04:01  

Absolutely, that's where thoughts become things. And you're and again, you can be happy about something that hasn't happened now, just with the thought of it. And it's no different than the thing being here. Except that we think we're gonna wait to feel the feelings when it's concrete. And it has to be in alignment with your feelings before it can become concrete. And by that time, you don't even need it anyway. It's the idea that I'm just doing it because I want to feel better. Well, you have the power feel better now. And then you'll attract what's necessary or right or that vision I didn't I didn't work on trying to get Doug a gig in use. I was so surprised when he said I just assumed Oh, it's gonna be back there because that's where the agency is. And I mean, he's never had a gig here. Like that. And I mean, it was so perfect. I was ecstatic and I didn't even try why cuz I let go. Because I don't need it to be happy. I just thought, oh, that'd be nice. That'd be nice. I'd love to have that. And then I had it all and, and that can happen in your life all the time.

Ari Gronich 1:04:57  

That is awesome. We're gonna leave the audience with that. Thought it can happen in your life all the time. So JJ, how can people get a hold of you again, just give us your details so that somebody if they want to work with you can do so.

JJ Flizanes 1:05:14  

Sure. JJFlazanes.com. So JJFlazanes.com and forward slash podcasts to check out the podcast. You can do Ford slash feelings list to get those downloads that I've talked about. And you can also do Ford slash book if you want to get a copy of my free book, The Invisible fitness formula five secrets to release weight and then body shame, but it's all at JJFlizanes.com. Awesome.

Ari Gronich 1:05:39  

Thank you so much. And this has been a another episode of create a new tomorrow, I hope you got an amazing amount of information and wrote a lot of notes so that you can take this down and actualize what it is you're doing in your world, and what you're passionate about so that you can create a new tomorrow. I'm your host, Ari Gronich. And thank you so much for being here. We'll see you on the next episode. Thank you for listening to this podcast. I appreciate all you do to create a new tomorrow for yourself and those around you. If you'd like to take this information further and are interested in joining a community of like minded people who are all passionate about activating their vision for a better world. Go to the website, create a new tomorrow.com and find out how you can be part of making a bigger difference. I have a gift for you just for checking it out, and look forward to seeing you take the leap and joining our private paid mastermind community. Until then, see you on the next episode.

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JJ Fizanes 0:00  

So not everybody is curious, not everybody sees things the same way. Not everybody takes a broader perspective and that's where I started using astrology to sort of make sense of some of those things. And in terms of why, why do I look at this and see it one way and react one way Why does someone looking at the same exact thing react the opposite way? There's no right way. And, and I think we're all on a spiritual path of awakening and understanding if we're taking the cues and that's where not everybody takes the cues. So, you know, there's a there's a basic law of attraction principle and it's that you're the creator of your own reality.

Today I am here with Tim Pedersen, he is also known as Dadbod Warrior, he helps people who struggle in health also in-real-life relationship, people who suffer from depression and other mental health issues. We are going to talk about how to boost your immune system to fight the COVID virus and avoid most of the symptoms, here is the Highlights of the episode hope you enjoy. Listen to the full episode in your favorite podcast app.

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Ari Gronich 0:07  

Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. This is Ari Gronich, the performance therapist and Tim Petersen dadbod Warrior, Hey everybody. So let's talk about boosting immune system naturally, and avoiding the pre-existing conditions that many of the people who are suffering have had. So, right, like the first few things, the first two or three things that you would suggest,

Tim Pedersen 0:40  

the first thing is just is, is eating healthy, and eating clean, natural, Whole Foods. And that's going to be my answer to anything, that's going to be the start, and the basis for anything and everything if you want to improve your health, and want to gain control of your health. So what's happened for the past 30, 40, 50 years is we have become a society of eating these packaged and processed foods. And as that technology increased very rapidly, our bodies take a little bit more time to adapt to those things. And our body is made to protect itself, our body is made to heal itself, and our body always wants to win. And what it's going to do is in that protect protection of itself, it becomes inflamed, that's like one of the first defenses is that inflammation, because it's it's sending the warriors to deal with this foreign object that's in your body. So imagine, vitamins we have vitamins that are taking, that are synthetic, and we're not actually able to break them down and use them in the ways that we, you know, our body needs to and how we think we're going to be able to, and the problem without is that they've created that environment where they can't possibly battle something simple, like a cold,

Ari Gronich 1:58  

right. So, you know,

we'll talk about we could talk about like low level symptom versus high level symptom. But inflammation has been addressed as the number one first response cycle and any disease, whether it's autoimmune disease, or diabetes, or even Alzheimers, they're now saying Alzheimers is like type three diabetes, and it's really related to inflammation in the brain. And then the protective mechanism is to cover up the inflammation. And that's called the plaque that you see in the MRIs. So, you know, getting your body out of inflammation is one of the key areas. Now, you know, you say Whole Foods, right? But somebody might go and get a thing of bread, and it says whole grain on it. So we kind of got to be a little more specific, because a lot of people don't understand they're eating an apple, and it's covered in say, wax and pesticide right. And they're thinking I'm eating a whole food. Yeah. But as as some because of runoff and mineral depletion, you need to eat about eight to nine apples to equal what one apple would have equaled. Right 50 years ago. So let's get into into the nitty gritty a little bit more about the details of what is a whole food? And what is a whole vitamin versus a synthetic. And why is that so important to know the difference between the two?

Tim Pedersen 3:45  

The first thing is it just like the internet, don't read and believe that we don't believe everything you read on the internet, you can't you can't believe everything you read on a package. And unfortunately, there's huge, huge lobbying companies and systems that are you know, battling every day to get things passed. And then to be able to say certain things that just really aren't true. So you can read and see the natural organic, say, on a box of cereal. And I'll read the ingredients. And there's literally five different kinds of sugar, which is scary, because that's not what we should be giving someone in the morning for breakfast and then sending them off to school. Well, in the olden days, right, and expecting them to have an attention span longer than five minutes. Yeah. So you want to look for those, those organic vegetables and what are the ingredients and what's the ingredients in kale. Kale, okay, it's kale. There's nothing else in it. So looking for things if you are, you know, as you get venture farther and further into the store, looking for those items if they're jarred or can that have fewer issues. gradients, you know, you don't want that list of all these additives, and all these things and nutrients and then enriched and all these things, you want it to be as pure as possible. And if you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't be eating it. And the longer the shelf life, the shorter your life,

Ari Gronich 5:18  

right, so we can, we can actually, you know, like, I've done keto with intermittent fasting, which is how I 140 pounds. And so, you know, this is coming from somebody who's had autoimmune disease for my entire life, pituitary tumor, at least, since I was seven, when I was told by doctors, I would never lose weight, I would gain weight until I was dead from it. So let's talk about that with the kids. And regards to things like ADD,  ADHD and the diets that that we're on that's kind of promoting it.

And

what were kids like 50 years ago, because if I look back, and I'm not quite that old, but I'm close enough, that I can look back and see, you know, we did a lot of activity, we were always moving, we were always outside and about getting sunlight, getting vitamin D.

Tim Pedersen 6:18  

And that was the beginning of the downfall. I mean, that was like that was really like the, when you look at the demographic, the graphs and all the statistics, you know, there's there was a lot happening, that there was, you know, fat was being taken out of food sugar was being put in Lysa fe was, you know, being used on crops, like all these things were happening that I'm like, became this perfect storm of, you know, starting to kill us basically, or create the bad environment that we, we kind of have now,

Ari Gronich 6:47  

right? So let's link it back then to COVID and building immune response,

so that we even if

get it are asymptomatic, or at least have the low levels of symptoms, what can we you know, what else can we do for this particular issue at this particular time?

Tim Pedersen 7:10  

Um, there are more specific things like, you know, they're saying vitamin C and zinc, which, for me has always been a frontline defense thing through a cold and flu season. So if you'd look at it, like what have we been doing for cold and flu, and if you're someone who does not get cold and flu, what are the things that you do that help protect you from that? So they're saying that, um, the zinc is very effective in helping in that and I guess with like, some of these antiviral things that they're trying, the zinc is part of that, that cure in that process to help along the way.

Ari Gronich 7:46  

Right. So I'll just kind of go to what what's been talked about a lot, the hydroxychloroquine is made from quinine, which has been used as an anti malarial drug for about 400 years before it was a drug. And quinine, its effects is to open up cell walls and allow things to get in and pass through. And then zinc is an antiviral, it's a known antiviral. That's what z Pak, you know, in traditional medicine, is part of zinc as part of a z pack. Now, here's the funny thing. If you go out in the sunlight, as naked as you can be, right? for 15 to 20 minutes, you're going to get 10,000 iu of vitamin D from the sun, but just as a way of thinking about it. So if you're isolated in your house, socially isolating, and you're not getting out into the sun for at least 15 to 20 minutes a day, you're really helping to compromise your immune system versus

helping to enhance it. Right,

Tim Pedersen 9:00  

exactly. So, um, back in the pandemic flu of was 1918 through 20. What they were doing was bringing patients, you know, they were they were setting up these camps, basically, they would bring the patients out into the sun. And like that was that was helping them tremendously. So I mean, there there is, I don't know if you call that scientific or anecdotal, but there that's part of and can be part of the process of helping your body be able to defend these things.

Ari Gronich 9:26  

And and I just want to, you know, there's a study that was done in Germany, they tested the population of this town for COVID. And they found that over 15% of the population had COVID. None of them were symptomatic. None had experienced any symptoms of the illness whatsoever. And so that's really more the issue is, can we get these things because we can't avoid life, right? We're not going to avoid that. bacteria, we're not going to avoid viruses, we're not going to avoid getting parasites, and so on and so forth. When we get them, how can we develop an immune system that's strong enough to do its job, which is to fight off those things that has enough nutrients in our system that we have enough of the things that make up and sugar happens to be something that blocks your immune system, it causes inflammation, especially in the quantities that we tend to put it in, in processed foods. And, and same thing with going out in the sun boosts your vitamin D. Amazingly, well, vitamin D isn't in and of itself, an immunity to a virus, it's just something that helps your immune system become more strong and able to protect you from these kinds of responses. And so I just wanted to make sure that we're clear, nobody's talking about creating an immunity, because the only immunity is to get the virus and fight it off and develop the antibodies,

Tim Pedersen 11:11  

all we can do. And, you know, we there's a level of feeling hopeless through all this, like, what the hell can we do, I'm sitting at home, there's nothing that I can do. Yes, there is build up that immune system, you know, don't stress yourself out about something that you can't, you don't have any control over, get sleep, just create that environment in your body, that I can fight these things. And I and I feel so bad for these, these healthcare workers, but they are being stressed out. They're being overworked, they're not getting sleep. And they are getting this because they're strong, healthy people. But we're putting them in a situation not only basing that, that, that COVID and the virus, but we're reducing their immune responsibility in their body to the point that they're getting this and having issues with it,

Ari Gronich 12:00  

what are some basic things that we can do to make sure that our health care workers are are really getting the care they need, and making sure that the system isn't over running them? Like I was watching ZDoggMD. And I don't agree with everything he says. And I agree with some of the things he says. But what he did say in this one video is we're finding out because we're not doing all of the elective procedures, how much we're actually taking people's lives, because the medical death toll has dropped significantly. Wow. He, you know, it was an interesting comment. But he said, when this all flushes out, we'll really start to be able to study how our medical system and over treatments have been causing more damage than they've helped.

So let's talk about that a little bit.

Tim Pedersen 13:01  

Yeah, and, you know, first hats off to our healthcare workers, especially, especially right now, because they are on the frontlines in the battleground. However, you know, whatever phrase you want to use, you know, my, my feeling is that it's, it's not really a health care system as a medical or medicine care system, you know, they they are trained in medicine, and they know so much, you know, with chemistry and how these things work, and all the different medicines that are constant coming coming out, and all the side effects. I mean, the side effects for what most medicines do are longer than the things that they're helping. And, you know, it's, it's, it's a quagmire, it's, it's how can anyone, you know, I guess now they're using the computers, you know, computers to help with all that, but they still have to have a baseline knowledge of how these things are all working together.

Ari Gronich 13:48  

Absolutely. So and my my recommendation to everybody, because as a trained functional medicine consultant, we always used to say, test test test. Otherwise, it's like throwing darts at a dartboard. And you know, for me, I'm gluten intolerant, and Nightshade intolerant, which a lot of people are Nightshade intolerant, or at least they might have a response and immune response to nightshades. So like peanuts are lentils, which are nightshades. They're poisonous. They have low level, immune spawn or immune response to most everybody, and a high level immune response to a few right. And the benefit is that nowadays, you can actually get those tests 510 years ago, it was almost impossible to get them they weren't they weren't readily available and nobody knew about them. But nowadays, it's much more prolific. That is really a great addition to to the conversation because not eating things that are genetically and Your body causing an inflammation response or an inflammatory response is going to by its nature boost your immune system as well fighting off the symptoms of COVID, which is what we're kind of talking about. And I really appreciate, Tim, that we're having this conversation, it's going around kind of a, you know, in a roundabout way, because we're talking about COVID. But we're really just talking about boosting health naturally. And exercise, nutrition, getting out in the sun, taking supplements that are high quality, and, and really

Tim Pedersen 15:43  

breathing,

Ari Gronich 15:45  

breathing deep, you know, getting enough oxygen and carbon and so forth for your lungs to be able to function into your diaphragm and out. Those are all really amazing ways to naturally boost your immune system, calm down your nervous system and stress responses cut cortisol levels, boost HGH which increases sleep, right? So

Tim Pedersen 16:10  

it's amazing Cain, you start that, like, what those benefits are. And again, that's what I love about, you know, working in doing what I do is that it does become this, this response, like this chain response, like these things keep happening there, and my class are more and more amazed, like, well, I feel great, and I'm not hungry, and I'm losing weight, and, like, I'm sleeping better, like all these things keep happening. And it's, it's amazing, your body does want to help you out. And again, guys, you know, everyone watching this probably will not be the last time we're faced with something like this, you know, there's, I've always heard like, the, you know, it's going to be the quote unquote, common cold that takes us all out. And like, and here we are, this is something that's more cold, like in a flood in our lungs, and, and, and look what it's done to us. And we never like no one in a million years, or at least in our lifetimes would have ever anticipated something like this, where we completely shut down. We're completely quarantine in our own homes like this is, and it's worldwide, right? We've, we live on the East Coast, and we've dealt with hurricanes, and we've dealt with localized issues. And you know, we get flooded out and like no one understands what we're dealing with. Because they're not, they didn't deal with a hurricane or someone has a tornado, no one else understands it. But like the whole, you know, the whole world is going through this. And it's like, so odd that that's happening. And we all can experience that, you know, good and bad. There's a lot of there are some positive coming out of it as well, which is amazing to see people, you know, get that mindset.

Ari Gronich 17:45  

And so with that, do you have any final words? How can people get a hold of you if, if they are interested in talking to you further?

Tim Pedersen 17:56  

Call me on? Yeah, so I am on Instagram at dadbod warrior. If you're one of those IG'ers, I'm on Facebook at dadbod. Warrior. And so I do I know branding. So my my, my website is dadbodwarrior.com. So any of those places will will find me, Tim at dadbod warrior.com is also a way to find me of via email. So all Yeah, I'll leave it with that. And this has been amazing. Ari, I think we should do this often. I've had fun and your expertise and wisdom is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Ari Gronich 18:32  

My pleasure. And thank you so much for for coming on. I know this was, you know, a last minute thing. So I appreciate you being available and scheduling it. And if you'd like to know more about how you may be able to activate yourself to become a warrior as as Tim has for your passion is one of my favorite sayings is we made the shit all up and we can make it up however we want. So don't have to accept it for what it is. We can create it differently because we made it up to begin with. So with that, I'm going to say thank you so much. And I hope to hear from you guys soon. If there's any other questions we'll be available to answer them on on the comment bar. Thank you, sir.

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Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. This is Ari Gronich, the performance therapist and Tim Petersen dadbod Warrior. Everybody, we are talking today about COVID 19. And about boosting your immune system naturally. ways to do that. And so I'm going to talk a little bit about Tim, and just kind of give you an idea that Tim is known as the dad bod warrior. You could show him your musculars

Tim Pedersen 1:39  

Yes, I'm hiding it today.

Ari Gronich 1:41  

Today, I remember you said you know, the COVID 15. Is upon us and you know kind of like kids going to school in college and getting you know that 15 freshmen 15. A lot of people are starting to get the COVID 15 being stuck in Quratantine*. So we're going to talk a little bit about how to avoid that how to boost your immune system. And, Tim, why don't you tell them a little bit about who you are and why I'm talking to you.

Tim Pedersen 2:17  

Great, great. Thanks. All right. So my name is Tim Peterson and I do have a company called dadbod warrior. And I'm a certified health coach. And I've been on a lifelong journey of of health and fitness. I just didn't really know like what level I would take that journey. And for the past five years I've really focused on doing that. And I grew up in a household where my dad was my mom, both my mom and dad were really into health and fitness in the sense of trying to figure out if there was a way to help my sister who had a mental disability. And I my whole life was you know, my dad reading prevent prevention magazine and life extension magazine and vitamins. And we always used to joke that he would shake like a pill bottle if he jumped up and down because he was always taking vitamins. And you know, he was one of the first people I ever met who started eating butter again, when we were told that butter would kill you. And I'm like, No, no, you need to eat. I can't believe it's not butter. It tastes just like better. It's better for you. And you know, little did I know at the time that it's, you know, one molecule away from eating plastic, and it's doing so much harm to us. So I grew up with that. And as I got older, and I you know, I was in my late 40s I realize how important all of this was and how I was doing marketing, I was doing branding, and that my best superpower was my health. And how do I help other guys who are going through a divorce who have gone through depression, have kids are a dad trying to feed their kids trying to feed themselves trying to recreate their life. Like all of a sudden, I was like, You know what, I'm doing this and I'm doing okay. And I've gotten myself out of a lot. And I've struggled through a lot. So I felt like I had something that I could offer. And so that's when I got certified as the health coach because I wanted to take it to another level. I was already a CrossFit coach and I've been doing I've been doing CrossFit for eight years. And so that's kind of where the journey, the journey began a long time ago. And then it's just heightened and gotten more and more and the goal. Now you know, they you have to have a goal that that scares you. And for me, my goal is to help 5 million people in the next five years, not only with their overall health but also beat or get their type two diabetes under control. So it's a big number and it obviously means talking to your audience and talking to other people's audience and getting on podcasts doing my own podcast and, and doing those things that will broaden the audience because as you know already We can control these things, they are part of a lifestyle that we can improve on. And even with what we're dealing with the COVID virus, there's a lot more in our control than we may realize. 

Ari Gronich 5:16  

Absolutely. So let's get into the inner control a little bit. And what we can do to naturally boost our immune system, what we can do to avoid getting the the extremes of the symptoms, we may not be able to avoid getting the virus, right, right, you know, avoid getting symptoms being asymptomatic, and, or at least close to it. So let's get into some of those ways. And I'm going to be looking kind of down on at both times, because we're going to be taking questions as well. So if it has any questions for Tim or myself, feel free to post them inside of the chat box, and we'll try to answer them. If not right away towards the end, at least we'll take a brief q&a at the very end. Awesome. So let's talk about boosting immune system naturally, and avoiding the pre existing conditions that many of the people who are suffering have had. So right, like the first few things, the first two or three things that you would suggest,

Tim Pedersen 6:33  

the first thing is just is, is eating healthy, and eating clean, natural, Whole Foods. And that's going to be my answer to anything, that's going to be the start and the basis for 

anything and everything if you want to improve your health, and want to gain control of your health. So what's happened for the past 30, 40, 50 years is we have become a society of eating these packaged and processed foods. And as that technology increased very rapidly, our bodies take a little bit more time to adapt to those things. And so we're putting, we're putting things in our body that our body doesn't always know what to do with. And our body is made to protect itself, our body is made to heal itself, and our body always wants to win. And what it's going to do is in that protect protection of itself, it becomes inflamed, that's like one of the first defenses is that inflammation, because it's it's sending the warriors to deal with this foreign object that's in your body. So imagine all of your intestines, all of your gut all, you know, your whole digestive system is now becoming this battleground for your defenses. Because you're putting in something that it doesn't recognize, it's not able to break down I mean, we have synthetic vitamins we have vitamins that are taking that are synthetic, and we're not actually able to break them down and use them in the ways that we you know, our body needs to and how we think we're going to be able to our food is good, you know, is being fertilized by synthetic fertilizers and non organic fertilizers. And again, there's these things that are going in, that our body doesn't know how to deal with and when it doesn't know how to deal with it. When it's in our body, it's getting inflamed. So what happens when our body is constantly in the state of inflammation, like our whole amount, imagine how many feet of intestines and things do we have? Imagine that whole part of your body is in battle. All of a sudden you get a cold germ in your system, you're going to get the cold because it's so busy fighting that internal battle that you've already created for it. So how many people do you know that you know, they're they eat like crap, and they're always sick. They're always catching something, something comes home from school, and they're catching it. And the problem with that is that they've created that environment where they can't possibly battle something simple, like a cold,

Ari Gronich 9:01  

right? So you know, we'll talk about we can talk about like low level symptom versus high level symptom. But inflammation has been addressed as the number one first response cycle and any disease, whether it's autoimmune disease, or diabetes, or even Alzheimers, they're now saying Alzheimers is like type three diabetes, and it's really related to inflammation in the brain. And then the protective mechanism is to cover up the inflammation and that's called the plaque that you see in the MRIs. So, you know, getting your body out of inflammation is one of the the key areas. Now you know, you say Whole Foods, right? But somebody might go and get a thing of bread and it says whole grain on it. So we kind of got to be a little more specific because a lot of people don't understand they're eating an apple. And it's covered in say, wax and pesticide right. And they're thinking I'm eating a whole food. Yeah. But as some because of runoff and mineral depletion, you'd need to eat about eight to nine apples to equal what one apple would have equaled, right 50 years ago. So how can people who may not know what whole food is or what it's not why it's better to eat, grass fed free range meats, rather than hormone fed meats that are being still right. So let's get into into the nitty gritty a little bit more about the details of what is a whole food? And what is a whole vitamin versus a synthetic? And why is that so important to know the difference between the two, and I'll give you just a little prelim. I go to the store, and I look at the aisles and the bread aisle is like empty, the canned food aisles are empty. But I go to the meat section and almost all the meats gone, except for the organic grass fed free range check, you know those things. So you can still get all the healthy food you want at the store, Because that's the only thing left, right. Let's talk a little bit about that and why it's so important for boosting the immune system, especially now.

Tim Pedersen 11:40  

All right, I know. I knew I loved you for, so many reasons. And you have. Those are just amazing questions and comments that when I was worried that when you said we k,were going to talk for an hour, your last one over an hour now I'm thinking we're gonna get about three hours Ari. We are definitely kindred spirits. Um, so where do I begin? Where did we get Begin? So the first thing is it just like the internet, don't read and believe every Don't believe everything you read on the internet, you can't, you can't believe everything you read on a package. And unfortunately, there's huge huge of lobbying companies and systems that are, you know, battling every day to get things passed. And then to be able to say certain things that just really aren't true. So I have fallen victim to this as well. I tried to buy, you know, the healthiest food for my kids that I can possibly buy. Unfortunately, I have, I have kids that are very into it. So what happens when you, you know, you feed them well, and you teach them along the way, they then will point out when you bought some crap food. So they've been very vocal with that. When I you know, I'm in a rush and I buy that said says natural, it says organic and I'll buy it. And they'll point out it Scott, you know, something that I've basically said is not something allowed in my house and our house. So you can read and see the natural organic, say, on a box of cereal. And I'll read the ingredients and there's literally five different kinds of sugar, which is scary, because that's not what we should be giving someone in the morning for breakfast and then sending them off to school Well, in the olden days, right, and expecting them to have an attention span longer than five minutes. And I wouldn't I just remember going back to that Apple. Not only does that Apple not have the nutrients that it had 50 years ago, it has about I don't even know how many times the sugar that an Apple did back then because what they've done is they've you know, not necessarily genetically modified but they have grafted and they've done things to create fruits and vegetables that are sweeter, especially fruits that are sweeter. So I remember when I was younger going to Europe and having a orange juice and I guess I guess it's from Israel, the oranges are from Israel, and they're they're grown completely different than here. And it was so bitter now I grew up in Florida, so I know you know and you're in you're in Florida. And we know we know Florida orange juice that's like sweet pulpy amazing, it's you know, it's just like it's like candy, you know, it's like liquid candy. And basically it is like the glucose is so high in that. And so when I would drink it over there I just like what is this stuff, it's bitter and then I realized years and years later that it has not gone through the same thing over here that we've done through to our fruits so realize that you're not getting the healthy nutrients and you're getting so much more fruit Oh sorry, not glucose fructose, which then turns into glucose but for the fructose is so high and that fruit that we're eating. So even eating that Apple is, you know, is problematic, so For me, the first thing that you should do is is definitely fruits and vegetables. If you can go and buy organic vegetables, that's the best thing that you can do. So the first thing on that shopping list is, you know, kale and spinach greens are so good for you. Now, when you think of, like, say, a banana, again, you know, very high in fructose, because it's been made to be so sweet. But it's got that peel on it. And if there were pesticides being used, you are peeling that off, and the fruit itself most likely has not had the pesticides or anything else on it. So if you're looking at my budget, and what I can afford, you know, an organic banana is not necessarily that much better. Now for the environment. Yes, it's much better to buy organic because it doesn't have all those pesticides and things put on it and the fertilizers. But for me kale, and spinach, when you think of the surface area on a fairly kale leaf, there's so much surface area, and it has been sprayed with those pesticides, or even now these herbicides and things that are killing off the other things. There's so much space for that to be held in there. And it's very hard to get that washed off because it is so frilly, spinach is a little flatter, a little easier. But still, that's such a big surface area to be absorbed in

Ari Gronich 16:27  

pretty much some of the highest sprayed items in a grocery store. Right.

Tim Pedersen 16:32  

Exactly. Exactly. So because it's they're so yummy. Yeah, if you've ever tried to grow, grow kale, I, I've not had much luck because there's always something trying to eat it. And I have little caterpillars and little things and I go out there and like yesterday, there was five plants that were ready to be harvested and I go out there literally the next day. And they're down to like these stocks and there's like these big fat fat happy worms gone. Thank you. I'm thinking I probably should be eating the worms at that point. Because they've been they've gotten all the nutrients. So you want to look for those, those organic vegetables and what are the ingredients? And you know, what's the ingredient in kale? kale, okay, it's kale. There's nothing else in it. So looking for things if you are, you know, as you get venture farther and further into the store, looking for those items, if they're jarred or can that have fewer ingredients, you know, you don't want that list of all these additives and all these things and nutrients and then enriched and all these things. You want it to be as pure as possible. And if you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't be eating it. And the longer the shelf life, the shorter your life. So that's kind of you know, you buy you know that box of cereal you can have it in your cupboard for five years well it's probably not something you should be eating at any point as well.

Ari Gronich 17:56  

I thought the age you know the age limit has risen because of all the preservatives we're eating

Tim Pedersen 18:04  

that's the way it should be right, that's not true? Well, you know I don't think it's working I really don't think it's a good promise Yeah, it's it's something that isn't working so and then you mentioned you know, it's funny because I we have an Aldi I don't know everyone has all the but it's a it's a kind of a discount store and they do have some good products and they are moving to non GMO and they are moving to organic only actually. So they're doing some good things. And they sell a keto bread. So I follow a keto lifestyle and a healthy keto. So it's a little different than just like keto,

Ari Gronich 18:42  

clean, dirty, right? I'm sorry. Clean keto versus dirty keto.

Tim Pedersen 18:47  

Yeah, so I'm on the on the clean and I do have I'll have some sushi so that might be considered a little dirty. So yeah,

Ari Gronich 18:56  

white rice is dirty. Dirty would be more the bacon in you know entire packages at every meal that's filled with the nitrates and so,

Tim Pedersen 19:07  

yeah, there's people that would like, like a Diet Coke is technically keto, but is not a healthy option. So the healthy keto is a pure you know, it's probably even cleaner than then than clean keto. So, so that's Yeah, I follow that and so they do have a keto bread and it's a lot less expensive than the stuff I normally buy. And just like you explained that the bread aisle is empty at Aldi, but there are two bins full of the keto bread that I've never seen before because it's it does get bought up. But there it wasn't like okay, it took a coven pandemic for me to be able to find the keto bread. So the other thing when you mentioned the meats, so there is grass fed. But what you have to look for is grass finished. So they will meet the standards of feeding them grass, but what we'll do right at the end is we'll take them into the feedlot. And for the next I don't know, I don't even know the timeframe, but they then we'll still fatten them up on grain. Well, cattle, they're not meant like grain. And especially corn, like those things are not part of their digestive system, they're there seven stomach system is meant to process grass, not that so then you're creating an animal that has inflammation in it. And that's part of our whole system is inflamed animals that are technically in literally sick, and that's what we're eating. So it also has to be grass finished. So that is more expensive. It's going to maybe considerably more expensive than a grain and corn fed cow. But like you mentioned, what we're trying to, if you look, the reason why we eat is to fuel our body, the fuel this machine that is trying to support us and do what it needs to do to heal us to repair us to you know, every seven years every cell in our body has been regenerated. And so if we look at it like that, now we put all the other stuff onto that we put all the emotion we put all that you know, Oh, you are good. Let's go get some ice cream you made, you know straight A's. How about a cookie, if you'd be quiet, I'll give you some Cheerios like we we have added all that. And I am guilty of it. I you know, when you got kids and you have to be quiet, you're at a funeral service, you start pumping up the cookies and whatever you need to keep them quiet. And so yeah, we've all had that happen. We all have those that those neural pathways that create that, you know, food is a comfort. But the real reason is we are just fueling our body. Okay, so that's go back to that meat. So now all that's left is hopefully the grass fed and grass finished beef. And it's three times as much as the other hamburger was, the thing that you need to think about is that that meat is going to be so nutritious for you that you actually don't need to eat as much. And what's happened to me is I've, I've eaten healthier, I've, I've eaten keto, I eat so much less. And this has happened with my clients too. They're like, I'm saving more money than your actual fees because I don't eat as much as I used to, I'm not as hungry. Because their body doesn't have the cravings because they are getting the food and nutrients they need.

Ari Gronich 22:30  

Right. So we can we can actually, you know, like, I've done keto with intermittent fasting, which is how I 140 pounds. And so, you know, this is coming from somebody who's had autoimmune disease for my entire life. pituitary tumor, at least since I was seven. When I was told by doctors, I would never lose weight, I would gain weight until I was dead from it. And, and so, you know, I transitioned into intermittent fasting, I have done fasts, my whole career, I've done cleanses my whole career. And they didn't necessarily do much for me, other than temporary relief. But when I started doing the keto, and with the intermittent fasting, I may eat one or two meals a day now, I'm usually I'll be drinking a lot of stuff, like I'm drinking some super blue green algae right now. Awesome. And, I had earlier a little bit of collagen, you know, but

Tim Pedersen 23:39  

I don't spend, speaking my language speaking my language. But

Ari Gronich 23:43  

then the kind of money that I would that you would normally spend that and I don't eat as much meat, I'm not craving the meat as much. So I might eat meat one or two times a week, versus every single meal of every single day having a little piece of meat, there's enough other things with protein in it, that it's it's not necessary to eat that and that's a good way to balance the budget when budget is a concern for eating, you know, a healthy way right

Tim Pedersen 24:20  

on trying to feed a whole family in a healthy way. And it's, it can be daunting. And then like I said, I've I've totally fallen into that trap as well. You know, Pop Tarts are can be really cheap. You buy the generic pop tarts. And you think well there's a couple meals right there and I've only paid $1.98 you know, so it is very enticing. But you've just sent your kids off to school or given them a snack that is just wound them up and all you've done is create more issues for yourself and the teachers that they have to deal with. Now now it's just us. So let's

Ari Gronich 24:53  

talk about that with the kids and regards to things like ATD ADHD and the diets that that were On that's kind of promoting it. And what were kids like 50 years ago, because if I look back, and I'm not quite that old, but I'm close enough that I can look back and see, you know, we did a lot of activity, we were always moving, we were always outside and about getting sunlight getting vitamin D, we were, you know, I mean, yes, I was born in the, in the microwave oven era, right and hungry man dinners and stuff like that, but,

Tim Pedersen 25:39  

and that was the beginning of the downfall. I mean, that was like, that was really like the, when you look at the demographic, the graphs and all the statistics, there's there was a lot happening that there was, you know, fat was being taken out of food sugar was being put in was, you know, being used on crops, like all these things were happening that, like, became this perfect storm of, you know, starting to kill us basically, or create the bad environment that we, we kind of have now,

Ari Gronich 26:08  

right? So let's let's link it back then to COVID and building immune response, so that we even if get it are asymptomatic, or at least have the low levels of symptoms, what can we you know, what else can we do for this particular issue at this particular time? And, and, you know, yeah, what can we do for that?

Tim Pedersen 26:35  

Yeah, and so, just to clarify, I'm not a doctor, and I'm not a scientist, however, I have been glued to my computers with, with podcasts and, and YouTube videos from doctors and researchers and like, all of us have pretty much been doing. So you have your, your base line, and you have your I call it like the essential oil people who are like, you know, doubting themselves and thieves oil and these things. And they're, and I think there is some validity to that, I mean, they do help create an environment that Ward's off viruses and bacteria and fungus and whatever. So you know, there's some there could be, and if that's your thing, that's, that's great. There's also been some, you know, a little bit of talk around you drinking hot fluids to help, you know, when it does get in, if you breathe it in, and it gets into your system, like having that wash it down and get it into your digestive system where it would be killed, but it does attach to it, there's an ace two receptor that it attaches to, once it attaches to that, that's not going to help. But those first few minutes, like when you first come home, and if you've been exposed to it, there are some doctors that say, you know, there could be some benefit to that. So, you know, I drink a lot of tea, I drink a lot of hot tea, I drink a lot of hot coffee. Um, is it? Is it protecting me? I'm not really sure. But you know, I enjoy it. So I, and maybe it's part of the placebo effect that, you know, I'm killing it. And my body's like reacting to it. Um, there are more specific things like, you know, they're saying vitamin C and zinc, which, for me has always been a frontline defense thing through a cold and flu season. So if you look at it, like what have we been doing for cold and flu, and if you're someone who does not get cold and flu, what are the things that you do that help protect you from that? So they're saying that, um, the zinc is very effective in helping in that and I guess with like, some of these antiviral things that they're trying, the zinc is part of that, that cure in that process to help along the way.

Ari Gronich 28:46  

Right. So I'll just kind of go to what what's been talked about a lot the hydroxy Cora Quinn is made from quinine, which has been used as an anti malarial drug for about 400 years before it was a drug and quinine, its effects is to open up cell walls and allow things to get in and pass through. And then zinc is an antiviral, it's a known antiviral. That's what z Pak you know, in traditional medicine, is part of zinc is part of a z pack but so Grape seed extract and we can we can kind of put a list together if anybody wants to know more, but Grape seed extract is antiviral, antifungal, antibacterial, garlic, antifungal, antibacterial. if I there are so many things, but vitamin D. There's several kinds of vitamin D, D two is not as absorbable by the body as d3 is and emulsified D Free is even better. In some places, they're saying that they're recommending 800 iu of international units of vitamin D. However, for a symptomatic approach, it's better about 10,000 iu of vitamin D. Now, here's the funny thing. If you go out in the sunlight, as naked as you can be, right? for 15 to 20 minutes, you're going to get 10,000 iu of vitamin D from the sun.

Tim Pedersen 30:35  

And don't get your mail or take your trash out while doing that, because there are some stories where that's been a problem. So

Ari Gronich 30:41  

you don't want to have any of those stories, but, but just as a way of thinking about it. So if you're isolated in your house, socially isolating, and you're not getting out into the sun for at least 15 to 20 minutes a day. You're really helping to compromise your immune system versus helping to enhance it. Right.

Tim Pedersen 31:06  

Exactly. So, um, back in the pandemic flu was 1918 through 20, what they were doing was bringing patients you know, they were they were setting up these camps, basically, they would bring the patients out into the sun. And like that was that was helping them tremendously. So I mean, there there is, I don't know if you call that scientific or anecdotal, but there that's part of it can be part of the process of helping your body be able to defend these things. So, um, mushrooms are another one, you know, mushrooms are great for the immune system, they help build the immune system. And so yeah, there's a couple of those. Shitaki, Mottaki, Reishi, Lion's, Mane, Chaga. There's some amazing ones cordis ups, all of those are great immune builders, I take a mushroom powder, that's a mix of all of those. And it's just a great immune system. And I've, you know, between everything that I've done, I've not you know, knock on wood, I've not had a cold flu, stomach virus, anything in two years. And meanwhile, I've had flu in my house, I've had my kids, you know, coming in, I don't control everything they eat, they have 50% of their time, you know, at their mom's house. And my, I have two older kids that are it's, you know, one's now graduated from college. One is in college. So, um, they're exposed to a lot of different things. And that has come into my house, and I, you know, part of me is thinking, Oh, crap, you know, I'm exposed to this, I'm going to get it. But fortunately, with what I've been doing, you know, somehow, not every year, I used to have allergies act up. And I would get it would end up being a, you know, a bronco brought bronchitis or some other lung thing. And I've not had that either. So not even the allergy is bothering me. And part of my you know, my thought process is I've reduced inflammation in my body to the point that the allergies that I normally would have, my body is able to defend itself against those things that normally bother it. So there's that. And that, again, is that's anecdotal for what has worked for me. Right. And we, we talked a little bit about, you know, the main thing that, I think is key for all of this is that microbiome biome, and you, you know a lot about it, and we're hearing more and more about it. And we think about it, you know, 10 years ago, no one was talking about gut health. Very little, I mean, we knew a little bit about, you know, yogurts, good for you, it's got, it's got these natural enzymes in it, you should be eating yogurt. The only problem was there were so much freakin sugar in it, it was really not doing you any benefit. Um, but we're finding more and more like that there's even a microbiome in our on our brain and in our brain and every part of our body. And you know that when you look at the numbers, there's 10,000 different species of this microbiome of this bacteria in our body, and most of it is like 99% of it is actually helping us out it's a symbiotic relationship. There is that, you know, that 1% though that is trying to kill us, or they're not benefiting us, and, and it depends how you're feeding that, you know, if you look at it like a garden, you know, you can have a garden full of amazing things, and food and the kale and the Spanish, whatever, or it can be full of weeds. And you know, what is in that gut? What are you feeding your gut. And if you're eating a lot of sugar, you're eating a lot of you know, a lot of pastas and white processed food that's feeding a different kind of microbiome and gut bacteria than might actually benefit you'll be benefiting you. Right? There are now studies that show that the the, the the bacteria that's feeding off that sugar can actually send signals to your brain telling you that it needs more sugar. So when you Think that you're, you know, like something has control my body, I can't stop eating sugar. Well, one, it's it's like a, you know, it's like a cocaine response, like you have that aspect. But then you also have this alien in your body saying, feed me sugar. So you really, really do have aliens telling you and guiding what you eat and kind of forcing you to put that cake in your mouth. So cleaning up that whole bio system, which doesn't happen overnight is huge and helping the immune system and RA, I know you have a lot to, to add to that.

Ari Gronich 35:32  

Yeah. So you know, with the microbiome, there's more of them than there are of us, meaning there's more cells, more trillions of genes than there are of us, I think it's like 3 million, 3 trillion genes out of the 10,000 different species of bacteria in our gut. Here's an interesting thing. One, antibiotics, wipe out your gut biome. And if you then start eating food that's more processed or more pesticide rich, then the bacteria that grows in your gut is going to be the kind that cause inflammation, because they're upset, they're going to cause bloating, they're going to cause gas, they're going to cause your body to reject the food. So you're not going to absorb as much of the nutrients as good, which means that you're going to be inflamed, not getting nutrients, causing your immune system to drop even further. Exactly, that that's a that's a big, a big issue. The other thing that they've found is that this gut brain connection, there's actually a pathway that they've found from the gut to the brain, they didn't know it was there until about a year ago, maybe two years ago that they discovered this pathway. And the pathway from gut brain connection, basically says, if you are a sugar addicted person, right, and you walk by donuts, you don't have to even smell them. If you just see them, the gut bacteria will say I want those, right. And come tell you to go and eat them, even if you know, it's not something that you want, or it's good for you. Right. And so, you know, here's a way to get off the hook a little bit for those of us that are that are sugar eaters, and I'm not one of them. Thank God, I never really got into high sugar foods. Although corn syrup is in everything, high fructose corn, you know, like, these high sugars are in so many things now. Yeah. But for those of you who are, it's not necessarily your fault that you're choosing that path, because you're not actually the one choosing it. It's the gut bacteria that's choosing it. And it's your job for a certain amount of time when you're in that detoxification phase, to say, No, I'm not going to eat that sugar. And eventually what happens is like, I can't even drink orange juice anymore, or apple juice, it's too sweet.

apple juice, like, I'd have to put this much apple juice and that much water in order to make it not you know, it's still sweet for me. Right? exact weight, right? Because, and most people, they'll drink straight apple juice, and it's not too sweet for them because of this microbiome that's affecting. Sorry, that's affecting what your brain is telling you as far as sensory. Right? And so that's a kind of interesting dichotomy, is it's not necessarily you. Right?

Tim Pedersen 39:10  

And then there may be comfort in that, or that may scare the crap out of me, also. But it's definitely it's an eye opener. And so, you know, so what I like to do are and I think, hopefully, you're, we're talking we talked we mentioned the COVID 15. And so now we're anyone listening to this is now aware there are aliens in their body telling them to eat that cupcake. Or when they smell the cookies, you know, that's Yeah, you go. When we used to be able to go to the mall you pass by you know, hose those cinnamon, cinnamon cinnabons Oh, my God did that. Does that smell good? And I don't and I don't eat sugar, but man, you want those things because they smell so damn good. So what are some things that you can do? And for me, what I tell and work with my clients on is finding alternatives for those things. So if they're looking for something sweet, try something salty. A lot of times you can be actually you actually can have a deficiency in the salt. And we've taken a lot of salt out of food. But if you're eating good, like Himalayan salt, and there's some natural salts, not the iodized Morton with the umbrella salt, on the iodine use, and that is such a low quality, it actually doesn't, you know, a lot of studies are showing that it doesn't even help us. And it's it's a, it's a different molecular wood, like molecular structure, not the right iodine that we need for our bodies. But hey, they can say it's iodine. And someone thinks that, you know, just like Valvo doesn't say that they're a safe a safe car anymore. But we all have been, you know, had that in our brain that it's the safest car on the road. And there it is. So at one point, it was the right iodine. Now it's not it's cheaper, and whatever, well, I'm more in salt.

Ari Gronich 40:56  

Give a bit about that the the iodized salt was because people were iodine deficient. Yeah. And it wasn't working. And, and that particular kind of salt iodized salt, table salt, has about 30, some odd percent silica or glass, and the silica when you eat it, start slicing away at arteries, and so on, it cuts and then cholesterol comes in, in order to repair those areas. And now all of a sudden, you have cholesterol buildup, right?

Unknown Speaker 41:37  

It's not the scar tissue, right?

Ari Gronich 41:39  

The salts fault. And it's the kind of salt because of the glass content in it, it's very sharp. The other part of that is they started to give, because if you know anything about cows, and livestock, they have what's called the Salt Lick. And they need the Salt Lake in order to get hydrated and remain hydrated. And so they started giving the iodized salt to the cows back in the 70s ish 60, 70s. And what would happen is the ankles would swell. Now, don't tell me if you're one of the people who have their ankle swelling, okay. But if you're eating a lot of salt, and your anchors are swollen, ankles are swollen, you might have something that correlates okay, but their ankles would swell, they would begin to sweat massively. And they became very, very, very sick. And so they had to start giving that Salt Lick. Back to the cows in natural rock salt. They decided, well, we can't let our innovation go to waste. So let's just give it to humans. Let's give it to people and put it on the table. Because table salts important, we need to have table salt, and you need iodine by the way. So,

Tim Pedersen 43:06  

very good. There it is.

Ari Gronich 43:08  

and iodine is a natural antiviral. It's been used for over 100 years in India for malaria. But it's just not the kind in your salt. But the the good kind of iodine,

Tim Pedersen 43:20  

right. So we've gotten away from that we've taken the fat out, we've taken the salt out. So the perfect snack for me, especially in the evening, is salted nuts, you've got the fat, you've got the salt, you've got the crunch. And if you're having that sweet craving, you want something crunchy, you want potato chips, you want, you know, cookies, having those nuts will save you. And that has worked for all of my clients across the board, something to snack on, and the fat in it helps you feel full. That's another problem with the obesity issue that we've had, we've taken all the fat out of everything that was made into the culprit, sugar was added, because everything tasted like crap because the the fat adds taste to it. And now we're not getting filled up. We're having extra sugar and reading more of it because we're not filled up and we're craving more and more. So it's just like it's a spiral that we have and you know, the hamster wheel, we're just going, going, going going and eating, eating, eating, and nothing that we're eating is one satisfying us and then on a nutrient level. It's giving us all the wrong triggers. It's growing the wrong microbiome. So, you know, at some point, you just have to say stop. And it's it's simply as you know, I'm sorry if I offend somebody it's like it's just simply as simple as you know, grabbing your nuts. Just grab your nuts, guys, just grab. Grab the pecans, grab the almonds, walnuts. They're amazing and I do candied do candied nuts. And what I do is it's no sugar. I use something called monkfruit And choose monkfruit if you buy you know pack of it, it usually does have a resveratrol, which is another natural sweetener. It's not a it's not a sugar substitute. It's not like sucralose or aspartame or whatever's in equal. it's a natural sweetener does not create an insulin response, which is what you're trying to avoid. You don't want your insulin spike and all that. So I use you. So here's the recipe, guys. It's amazing. So you take an egg, and you just use the egg white and you whip it up. So you just take and now you're getting exercise. So now you whip that up. And you take a couple cups of pecans and walnuts, whichever ones are your favorite, their wallets tend to be a little cheaper right now. So you put that in so it coats it, then you put in about half a cup of the monkfruit, which you can order on Amazon, you can get at Whole Foods. If you have a food Co Op, a lot of times they have it, and then salt. And I would I would say a couple tablespoons of salt in there and some cinnamon, you roast out in the oven for I think about 15 minutes, just keep an eye on it so it doesn't burn one, the house is gonna smell amazing. You're gonna smell like one of those candied pecan things, those trucks, little cars that you buy in the city, they smell amazing. And then you've got these, these blocks of this candy, these candied nuts, that are a perfect TV snack. In the middle of the day snack, they give that you know that sweetness, they got the salt, and there's the fat in them that will help fill you up. So that's my ultimate tip. For for you and the recipe. I can be more specific in it. And I can give Ari the full recipe if anyone's interested. But

Ari Gronich 46:44  

yeah, you can post it in the link, I just want to answer somebody's comment real quick. Sure. Somebody said that going out in the sun and avoiding sugar is not going to give you immunity from the corona virus. Nobody ever said it's going to give you immunity, it's going to boost your immune system. And that is going to help with symptoms of the coronavirus. So don't get what we're saying wrong, we're talking about naturally boosting the immune system, we're not talking about creating an immunity, the only way to create an immunity is to get the virus right, develop the antibodies. So I just want to make sure that we're clear. Get the virus develop the antibodies, if you've got the virus and you have a really healthy immune system, you're going to be less symptomatic than somebody who's got pre existing conditions. Yeah, that's what we've been talking about. So

Tim Pedersen 47:38  

all we're talking about is all the things that you can do to help build your Yeah, absolutely. To build your immune system, we are not trying to say we have the cure for at all at all. And there's neither one of us could could already have it. And because we have an immune system that's able to fight Listen, guys, all of us have cancer, every single one of you listening, Ari, we all have cancer, there is cancer inside our body. And what happens it takes hold when we have and create an environment or in our body that our immune system can't battle that cancer and it takes over. But you have cancer in your body right now. You may have covid in your body right now. And your body is fighting it off. You don't know that. But the idea for this conversation is that we talk about how to build that immune system up that you can fight these things. And that is overall, you know, will that help us in the next pandemic? Hopefully, it's not. Yeah, as you said, it's not a cure for the actual thing. It's a way for our body to be able to fight these things when they come in.

Ari Gronich 48:39  

Right, exactly. And and I just want to you know, there's a study that was done in Germany, they tested the population of this town for COVID. And they found that over 15%, of the population had covid. None of them were symptomatic. None had experienced any symptoms of the illness whatsoever. And so that's really more the issue is, can we get these things? Because we can't avoid life, right? We're not going to avoid bacteria, we're not going to avoid viruses, we're not going to avoid getting parasites, and so on and so forth. When we get them, how can we develop an immune system that's strong enough to do its job, which is to fight off those things that has enough nutrients in our system that we have enough of the things that make up and sugar happens to be something that blocks your immune system and causes inflammation, especially in the quantities that we tend to put it in and processed foods. And same thing with going out in the sun boosts your vitamin D. amazingly well. Vitamin D isn't in it. itself an immunity to a virus. It's just something that helps your immune system become more strong and able to protect you from these kinds of responses. And so I just wanted to make sure that we're clear, nobody's talking about creating an immunity, because the only immunity is to get the virus and fight it off and develop the antibodies,

Tim Pedersen 50:26  

was a great, great question. I'm quitting thanks for posting that and making and letting us give the opportunity to clarify.

Ari Gronich 50:33  

So you know, I appreciate it. My thing is, I love to have the discussion, I love to have the conversation because without the conversation, we can't get to a truth. And you and I can have very diverse opinions about something. And the more we talk and the more we, you know, go through the debating process, the more we can come to a truth and an understanding of each other, whether we believe each other or not. So,

Tim Pedersen 51:02  

listen, guys, this is what we have to think about, you know, a lot of states so I'm in North Carolina, are you're in Florida, and in between this is Georgia, and Georgia is talking about opening things up. You know, gyms and bowling alleys and all these things that are essential. Now I can understand a gym being essential, I'm going crazy, but I'm not if it opened up next week, and it's right up the road from me, I don't think I would be going in there. And they're also saying that, you know, next winter, this same exact COVID Well, not exact because this thing is what's scary about it is that there's already like I it's up, I last I checked, and this was a couple weeks ago, it was up to see it had they had version A B and C like it is mutating and it's a very smart virus. So who knows what we're going to be faced with like the flu every season, it's a little bit different. It's not the same flu over and over again. So this is going to be in our, this may become part of our life. I don't know. So all we can do. And, you know, we there's a level of feeling hopeless through all this, like, what the hell can we do, I'm sitting at home, there's nothing that I can do. Yes, there is build up that immune system, you know, don't stress yourself out about something that you can't, you don't have any control over, get sleep, just create that environment in your body that can fight these things. And I and I feel so bad for these, these health care workers, but they are being stressed out. They're being overworked, they're not getting sleep. And they are getting this because they're strong, healthy people, but we're putting them in a situation not only basing that, that COVID and the virus, but we're reducing their immune responsibility in their body to the point that they're getting this and having issues with it. So, I do what you can,

Ari Gronich 52:56  

that the food that they serve inside the hospitals is jell O's and ice creams and things like that, you know, just kind of and vending machines with with lack of healthier food for the doctors for the people who are the health care workers. You know, my son's godmother is an ER nurse has been for she's now the charge nurse in our local hospital. And, you know, she says that sometimes when she's on shift, she doesn't even have time to grab a glass of water.

Tim Pedersen 53:32  

Yeah, it's horrible. Yeah,

Ari Gronich 53:34  

we need to really fix part of the system that's making our health care workers have to fight so hard. Just to be that healthy themselves. You know, I used to work at Good Samaritan Hospital and I would work on all of the all the doctors and nurses and staff. And I was their corporate wellness person. And they were still at that time on 30 hour shifts. And if you are on your 28 hour, and you were a surgeon and you got called into an emergency surgery, you may have been on your shift now 40 plus hours or more. So, you know, there is definitely a shift that needs to happen within the healthcare industry and the system in which we've created, and that's one of the issues that I like to talk about with you a little bit more is just, you know, how can we as a community, what can we do to help support the shift of the system. And the community i'm saying is we're we're the alternative health care industry, although I kind of bridge the gaps between the two sides a lot in what I do. And I've been working diligently to kind of develop a plan How to do that. But what are some basic things that we can do to make sure that our health care workers are really getting the care they need. And that being said, making sure that the system isn't over running them, like I was watching Zdogg MD, and I don't agree with everything he says, and I agree with some of the things he says. But what he did say in this one video is we're finding out because we're not doing all of the elective procedures, how much we're actually taking people's lives, because the medical death toll has dropped significantly.

Tim Pedersen 55:45  

Wow,

Ari Gronich 55:46  

he, you know, it was an interesting comment, but he said, when this all flushes out, we'll really start to be able to study how our medical system and over treatments have been causing more damage, then they've helped. So let's talk about that a little bit.

Tim Pedersen 56:05  

Yeah, and, you know, first hats off to our healthcare workers, especially, especially right now, because they are on the frontlines and the battleground. However, you know, whatever phrase you want to use. And if you have a chronic issue, if you if you need surgery, you have cancer, that is like the first like, yes, that's where I'm going. But, you know, my feeling is that it's, it's not really a health care system, it's a medical, or medicine care system, you know, they, they are trained in medicine, and they know so much, you know, with chemistry and how these things work, and all the different medicines that are constantl coming out, and all the side effects, I mean, the side effects for what most medicines do are longer than the things that they're helping. And, you know, it's a quagmire, it's, it's, how can anyone, you know, I guess, now they're using the computers, you know, computers to help with all that, but they still have to have a baseline knowledge of how these things are all working together. And you my feeling with, you know, with my clients, I do work with a lot of people that have type two diabetes, or they have, they have health issues, and that's why they're like, Okay, enough. And I work with our doctor, I've got them, I've got them going back to their doctor, as you know, every three months just to check and see how everything's going. And the doctor is the one saying, you know, you can come off without medication, you don't need it anymore. And those are the things that I love to hear how someone like myself, who is not medically trained, but I'm just using health, and I'm only coaching on a on a health level of things that that they can try, and that they can do and they can eat, that are going to help them you know, I'm not a nutritionist. I'm not a dietitian, and I'm not a doctor. But it's just so much of it is like a basis of it is just common sense. And it's on learning all the commercials from when we were kid, you know, that picture of that nutritious breakfast, nothing in that the most nutritious thing was probably the plates if you ate the plate, that was probably important choices than anything else in that picture. So unloading stuff like you have to like, breakfast is the most important meal of the day. No, it's not. It's not you can skip breakfast, you can do intermittent fasting, like you do. And guess what your body knows how to deal with that. And, you know, the only the best time for breakfast, breakfast for dinner. That's what you know, I love to have eggs, and even, you know, healthy bacon, and all those things are great in the evening. You don't have to have them. So those are all those things that we've learned. And we've had ingrained in us that you know, you have you know, you that sandwich is a great, you know, healthy way to eat and you know, a sandwich again, not necessarily. There's so much roundup in our production of food these days, that that's causing issues, because that's actually killing our microbiome.

Ari Gronich 59:01  

It's also a hormone disruptor

Tim Pedersen 59:03  

hormone disruptor. It actually can stop the serotonin production. So now you've got people that are depressed, like look at our look at our rates of depression. Look at what's happening with that. I again, I'm not a scientist, but there are studies that are finding a correlation between that and autism. There are so many things out there saying you know, they're trying so hard to find that but they are finding like as that increased, so did autism. Well, a lot of other things increase at that point too. So that sugar taking out fast thinking there's so many dietary changes. So the answer to all of that is just going back to clean basic. One, one ingredient food in the potato is a potato and kale is kale and beef there should just be beef, you know, doesn't need all this other stuff in there and going to your farmers market. So how can you get back at the system or how can you start letting the system know is buying Local going to you're going to, your farmer, farmers markets or your actual farmers they have these boxes that you can get. And now we're going into the production of that it's farmers will bring you your box of stuff. They're actually finding studies that show, you know, they're they're, I guess they're doing some, you know, historical research that shows the microbiome actually used to change with the seasons because people ate what was available, and their microbiome would change constantly. So I was reading, I was listening to a podcast. Today, there's a is actually a this billionaire guy who has funded a company called I'm bringing it up now, a company called biome, and they, the i o n e, and they do a microbiome testing. And they will actually you send it on a sample of something, you know, from the back door, and they will test and tell you all about what your microbiome is made up of. And they stay with you. Because what they want you to do is, is to get tested regularly, because it's supposed to change, it is supposed to change. It's not supposed to be like me staying on keto, for the rest of my life may not best serve me. And it definitely is not necessarily, you know, everyone, it's there's bio diversity, everyone is different. So what how you ate ra is going to be may not work for me, all my clients, I work with them in a way that will help them you know, with how their system works, and we and we test that out. So they work with you at knowing where your biome is now and where you should take it. So know that you know, just because you're eating healthy now and all of a sudden something changes you gain weight, you don't feel good, you're tired. Sometimes you need to change up and and look at what is available that season. So maybe you need to kind of look at seasonally what is available and change how you're doing so if you're not, you're supporting those local farmers, you're eating more healthy, you're not buying a processed food, your mind hope in my goals, those things start fading away.

Ari Gronich 1:02:10  

Absolutely. So and my my recommendation to everybody because as a trained functional medicine consultant, we always used to say test test test. Otherwise, it's like throwing darts at a dartboard. And you know, for me, I'm gluten intolerant and night shade intolerant, which a lot of people are Nightshade intolerant, or at least they might have a response and immune response to nightshades. So like peanuts are lentils, which are nightshades. They're poisonous, they have low level, immune spawn, or immune response to most everybody, and a high level immune response to a few right. So I just don't eat them. I don't eat hummus anymore. One of my favorite things to know, oh man. bonds have been, you know, none of those things. But I was tested, I went and had a DNA test, I had blood test, I had saliva test, I had stool test, urine test, I got tested, and found out what is good for me and what's not. And so, you know, along with what you're saying, I suggest everybody get tested for what's good for them. And the benefit is that nowadays, you can actually get those tests 510 years ago, it was almost impossible to get them they weren't they weren't readily available when nobody knew about them. But nowadays, it's much more prolific. And, and you're able to get those tests. So,

Tim Pedersen 1:03:45  

you know, the prices are coming down. Like I had first heard about this test actually from Deepak Chopra. He was a speaker at a conference that I want went to and he's a he's like the world renowned integrative medicine expert. And they he talks about this, and I think back then it was like $3.59 it's now $1.49. So it's not cheap, cheap, but to just understand where you are and have that baseline and to do it, you know, maybe yearly, or I think they talk about doing something every six year, six months, and they have like an app that helps you as well. It's amazing and to know that you have that help. And the thing that's interesting are is you know, again, we I'm very cost conscious. I know a lot of families are you know, I get I work with divorced dads too. Sometimes they are in a you know, they're in a very tight situation and they're trying to figure things out. Um, what's interesting is a lot of my clients, they want to end up saving money on food, because they're not buying, you know, so much stuff that they're able to get the nutrients they need. And if they were on medications, they're saving hundreds and hundreds of dollars on medication, even stuff, you know, it was still covered by insurance but they still have co pays. And some of it still had you know, $100 a month here $50 a month all of a sudden, you know, it adds up and They're also going to the doctor less for, you know, issues, they are still going, you know, regularly whether it's we have them on a three month or six month, whatever plan but they're not going every month because this is happening. And now I've got this symptom, and now I'm dizzy, all those things are fading away. And it creates a situation where again, your body is able to deal with things, you're not going to the doctor because you have flu, you're not going because your kids have stomach flu viruses like they're able to ward off and fend off those things because the immune system is stronger and can and that takes us back to COVID. And being able to help our body be able to fight it, if it is faced with it somewhere along the line.

Ari Gronich 1:05:42  

And along lines of what you're saying just the time factor. The focus, like how much does not being focused, because you're dealing with a disease cost you in business. And if you're a corporation, I'm going to repeat that, because your employees are lacking productivity because they have other things on their mind, like their health and wellness and stress and so on. So for a corporation to take care of some of that stuff. It for their employees is extremely beneficial for the corporation. Yeah, patients will gain so much money from productivity based on the amount they spend to help their employees wellness. It's incredible. Robert asked, Where can we get those tests. And so if you'd like to, you can put a link into the chat at one point, I will also put a link, but most of what I say to that is go to your local functional medicine doctor. And they will be able to give you the tests and read them because it's really important that you have you know, somebody who knows what they're doing, read your blood tests, read your your allergy test, read what foods and things are not good in DNA test. Otherwise, again, you're looking at, you know, throwing darts at a dartboard. I had a I had a client who had all the tests done from their doctor, but was a traditional medical doctor using pathological blood versus functional blood results. And numbers. And there is a little bit of a difference, I'm not going to go too much into it. But she completely missed the fact that he was dying of liver disease, because his numbers didn't all go into the the functional zone they were they were fine in the pathological zone, they were on the edges of good or bad in the pathological zone. And just as a quick thing, pathological versus functional blood test, there's a bell curve of about 95% of the population. And they take the average, and then they that's how they get their numbers. So you see high or low in numbers, that's where they want you. Testosterone, for instance, is like 200 to 1100. And that's the pathological number. But if you're a 200, or 300, or even 400, you're probably having a low libido, you're having other issues. If you're at the too high of a range, you're getting rage issues and acne issues, and bald, you know, issues and those kinds of things. Six to 800 is kind of like the optimal or functional range. And so you want to have somebody who knows how to read those in a functional range so that you can optimize your body versus being at the highs or lows of any given thing. And that works the same for diabetes, it works the same for, you know, thyroid conditions, it works the same for for everything. So

Tim Pedersen 1:08:57  

I leave information already. Thank you. That's great.

Ari Gronich 1:08:59  

some of the links, you know, to the test, Tim will put in the link to the xylem. Does that what's called Biome?

Tim Pedersen 1:09:06  

Biome yeah.

Ari Gronich 1:09:09  

And, and that way you can have them but that is really a great addition to to the conversation because not eating things that are genetically and in your body causing an inflammation response or an inflammatory response is going to by its nature, boost your immune system as well fighting off the symptoms of COVID, which is what we're kind of talking about. And I really appreciate, Tim, that we're having this conversation, it's going around kind of a, you know, in a round about way, because we're talking about COVID but we're really just talking about boosting health naturally and actually Exercise, nutrition, getting out in the sun, taking supplements that are high quality and, and really,

Tim Pedersen 1:10:09  

breathing,

Ari Gronich 1:10:10  

breathing deep, you know getting enough oxygen and carbon and so forth for your lungs to be able to function into your diaphragm and out. Those are all really amazing ways to naturally boost your immune system, calm down your nervous system and stress responses cut cortisol levels, boost HGH which increases sleep, right? So it's amazing 

Tim Pedersen 1:10:38  

you start that, like what those benefits are. And again, that's what I love about, you know, working in doing what I do is that it does become this, this response, like this chain response, like these things keep happening there, and my class are more and more amazed, like, well, I feel great, and I'm not hungry, and I'm losing weight, and I'm like, I'm sleeping better. Like all these things keep happening. And it's, it's amazing, your body does want to help you out. And again, guys, you know, everyone watching this probably will not be the last time we're faced with something like this, you know, there's, I've always sort of like the, you know, it's going to be the quote unquote, common cold that takes us all out. And like, and here we are, this is something that's more cold, like in a flood in our lungs, and look what it's done to us. And we never like no one in a million years, or at least in our lifetimes would have ever anticipated something like this, where we've completely shut down. We're completely quarantine in our own homes like this is, and it's worldwide, right, we live on the East Coast, and we've dealt with hurricanes, and we've dealt with localized issues. And you know, we get flooded out and like no one understands what we're dealing with. Because they're not, they didn't deal with a hurricane or someone has a tornado, no one else understands it. But like the whole, you know, the whole world is going through this. And it's like, so odd that that's happening. And we all can experience that, you know, good and bad, there's a lot of there are some positive coming out of it as well, which is amazing to see people, you know, get that mindset.

Ari Gronich 1:12:11  

Absolutely. And I just want to go to one other thing that you mentioned earlier. And and that's the benefits of fat. So there used to be a time when when athletes would carb load. Some athletes still focus on that old belief system of carb loading. What we found in sports medicine, is fat loading is better. Fat loading, actually, the energy from fat takes longer to digest. So it lasts longer, right. But it also feeds your brain because your brain is built of fat and cholesterol. That's the majority of what your brain is made out of. And when we cut the fat out of our diets, we literally are cutting our brain function. And our ability to think cognition, critical thinking all those things kind of go out of the wayside because your brain is being starved of fat for your immune system, is it D regulates the hormones that stop your immune or that make your immune system work correctly and efficiently. And so if your hormones are deregulated, because you're not eating enough good fats, I'm going to preface it with good fats not, you know, highly trans fats and things like that, but good fats. If you're eating plenty of those, in exercise, you'll last longer, you'll recover faster, and you'll be more focused, you'll be able to think faster and think longer and harder. And that is going to help your hormone function, your serotonin function, dopamine function, and up regulate your immune system helping to fight off Corona, or any other kind of disease that may come your way. And so with that, do you have any final words? How can people get a hold of you if if they are interested in talking to you further?

Tim Pedersen 1:14:22  

Call me, Yeah, so I am on Instagram at dadbod warrior if you're one of those IG-ers, I'm on Facebook at dadbod warrior. And so I do I know branding. So my website is dadbodwarrior.com, So any of those places will find me [email protected] is also where to find me of via email. So yeah, if you have any questions, any comments, love to hear it. Um, and and just to follow up with what Ari was saying. I do Spartan races and I do CrossFit and I the Spartan Race. is the most I've done was a 15 miler and I did not carb load. And I took peanut butter and almond butter with me. And that's what I was sucking down as I did the race that I did realize that you need a lot of water when you're dry mouth and you're putting almond butter in your mouth. It just becomes like a so that was a real learning learning curve there. But yeah, you don't need the you don't need that those carbs to function your body. So think about this. All right, there is no essential carb. Our body knows how to make carbs. Our body can make the carbs that it needs, there is no such thing as an essential carb, or essential fatty acids. There's other essential things, but there's no essential car, our body can make what it needs. Now, that kind of lends itself to keto is keto, right for everybody. It's not going getting getting these tests and trying it out and seeing if it works for you. Maybe something you do a few months a year. It can change for everybody. But just be aware, we don't need to be eating the amount of carbs that we're eating, and, if at all. So I'll yeah, I'll leave it with that. And this has been amazing. Ari, I think we should do this often. I've had fun and your expertise and wisdom is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Ari Gronich 1:16:14  

My pleasure. And thank you so much for for coming on. I know this was, you know, a last minute thing. So I appreciate you being available and scheduling it. And I enjoyed the conversation because, you know, like said we can agree and disagree on many things. And at the end of the day, the conversation is what gets us more to the truth. And that to me is more important than the media spin. So if if you'd like to

Tim Pedersen 1:16:45  

No media spin here, right?

Ari Gronich 1:16:48  

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Tim Pedersen 0:00  

My goal is to help 5 million people in the next five years not only with their overall health but also beat or get their diabetes under control. So it's a big number. And it obviously means talking to your audience and talking to other people's audience and getting on podcasts and my own podcasts and doing those things that will broaden the audience because as you know, our a we can control these things. They are part of a lifestyle that we can improve on. And even with what we're dealing with the COVID virus, there's a lot more in our control than we may realize.