Eleanor and Gerald are live on the ground at the XRP Las Vegas conference, where they’re hosting a fireside chat with Massachusetts Senate candidate John Deaton, a pro-crypto lawyer taking on incumbent Ed Markey in the midterms.

Deaton joins the show to share his take on the state of the industry, the chances of the Clarity Act passing, and his second run on the campaign trail.

OpenAssets founder and CEO Gabor Gurbacs also joins with his outlook on institutional capital in a post-ETF world and why he believes tokenization could be the next standard.