In this episode of The Autistic Culture Podcast, Dr. Angela Kingdon is joined by Jude Mills—autistic theologian, interfaith minister, and host of Fkd Up by Faith—for a deep exploration into how cults and extremist religious movements intersect with autistic culture. This isn’t just a trauma story. It’s a culture story.

Together, we unpack how autistic traits like emotional honesty, deep focus, and commitment to logic can draw us into high-demand religious systems—and what it takes to get out.

🎧 What You’ll Learn

• Why autistic people are often drawn into cults—and why we might stay longer than others
• How the very traits that make us vulnerable are also reflected in many cult leaders
• What happens when your SPIN (Special Interest) used to be Jesus, prophecy, or Revelation
• How to mourn or reframe a spiritual system that once gave your life meaning
• Why autistic people may face unique challenges—and strengths—on the journey out
• How leaving isn’t failure. It’s freedom. And it’s a return to self-trust.

🔊 Featuring guest Jude Mills, interfaith minister, spiritual counsellor, and host of Fkd Up By Faith—a podcast exploring healing for those hurt by religion.

🎙️ Listen to Jude's podcast and learn more: fkbupbyfaith.com

Resources:

Richard Turner – UK-based autistic cult recovery counsellor

Ashlen Hilliard – US-based cult recovery advocate

Alexandra Stein and Janja Lalich – researchers and educators on cult dynamics

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Fighting Internalized Ableism

Academia and Ableism

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