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This episode features Nick Brunacini, Terry Garrison and John Vance.

This episode explores the complex relationship between fire departments and local governments, focusing on the struggles fire chiefs face in securing resources for their teams amidst rising wildfire risks. The conversation delves into historical context, misinformation, and the importance of community engagement in public safety.  

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This episode was recorded at the AVB CTC in Phoenix, AZ on January 15, 2025