Host John Sherman interviews Esban Kran, CEO of Apart Research about a broad range of AI risk topics. Most importantly, the discussion covers a growing for-profit AI risk business landscape, and Apart’s recent report on Dark Patterns in LLMs. We hear about the benchmarking of new models all the time, but this project has successfully identified some key dark patterns in these models.

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