What do a growling beagle, Andrew Cuomo, the Green Bay Packers, shoe leather and good ideas have in common? Find out in this fun and wide-ranging interview with David Hawkins, Executive Director for Educational Content and Policy at the National Association for College Admission Counseling.

Rapid Descent

• Walkout song: Total Football by Parquet Courts
• Best recent read: The Souls of Black Folk by W.E.B. DuBois 
• Eager to read next: Mostly Harmless (The 5th book in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Trilogy) by Douglas Adams
• Favorite thing to make in the kitchen: Nestle Tollhouse Chocolate Chip Cookies, which his mother taught him to make when he was 4. 
• What she uses to take and keep notes: College notebooks and a utilitarian pen.
• Memorable bit of advice: "A man should love his life enough to call it his own in the end." from Orhan Pamuk's The White Castle.
• Bucket list: To see the Green Bay Packers play at Lambeau Field.

The ALP is supported by RHB, a division of SIG. Music arranged by Ryan Anselment