Most of the world recognises Palestine as a state, but Australia and some of its closest allies have refused to.

Until this week.

A growing list of Western countries — including Canada and the UK — have announced plans to recognise Palestinian statehood. 

And pressure is mounting for Australia to do the same.

But what does statehood recognition mean? And will it lead to peace in Gaza? 

In this extended episode, leading international law expert Ben Saul shares his time with us for the third time since the war began. 

We ask him all about Palestinian statehood, the allegations of genocide against Israel, and how much power countries like Australia have in helping to end the war.

Guest: 

• Ben Saul, UN Special Rapporteur on Human Rights and Counter-terrorism

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