In the big cities, they deliver everything from pizza and pad thai to booze and groceries, but are delivery riders and drivers earning enough to make it worth their while?

A lot reckon no — but could that be about to change?

This week, two of Australia's biggest apps, Uber Eats and DoorDash, announced they'd agreed on a minimum level of pay.

So what could this mean for drivers?

On this week's hack deep dive, we head out with the riders and drivers delivering Australia convenience.

We hear how the apps work on the rider's side, how they've learned to game the bonuses, and chat with an expert about how sustainable this kind of work really is.

Guests:

• Alex Veen, employment relations researcher, University of Sydney

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