Deep Diving with Enneagram Fours

Deep Diving with Enneagram Fours

By Victoria and BryceEducationSelf-Improvement
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Deep Diving with Enneagram Fours episodes

  • Our type 4 guest: author and coach, Jen Berlingo

    Jen Berlingo, author of Midlife Emergence: Free Your Inner Fire, joins us in an exploration of what it is to be a four. She speaks to childhood, introjections, Oneness, stepping out of the conventional and embracing her queer life, and her book.

    Where to buy Jen's book:  ⁠jenberlingo.com/book

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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    1 hr 8 min
  • Lindsey, our self preservation Four guest - Welcome!

    Episode 21.

    What a delight to have Lindsey on as our sp4 guest! A very candid, illuminating, and connecting conversation.

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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠


    42 min
  • Holy Holy Holy... Origin! (the Holy Idea of Point Four)

    Episode 20.

    Welcome to the Holy Idea of Point Four: Holy Origin. We put on our spelunking headlamps and venture into the higher healthy levels of the head center - lifting up and out of the delusions of the fixation of melancholy. Enjoy!

    ALSO, if you are a Four, or think you are a Four, and want to be a guest on our show, send us a message!


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    38 min
  • Introjection in the Four: Swallowing WHOLE

    Episode 18.

    We dig into the primary Defense Mechanism used by the Four: Introjection. It can be a tricky one to understand - especially because of the counter-intuitive way Fours use it - so we give the subject a thorough going-over.

    Thanks to Ginger Lapid-Bogda (of The Enneagram in Business; theenneagraminbusiness.com) for her super clear and insightful writings on how Introjection shows up for Fours.


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    44 min
  • The Beast Within: Creation, Preservation, and Destruction in the Four

    Episode 17.

    Victoria shares a big change of perspective on the homefront, regarding her relationship with her sisters.

    And I detail a huge breakthrough regarding being honest with all the parts of me - including the aspects that want to destroy everything.

    ~ Bryce


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    45 min
  • Our Social Four Guest, Megan!

    Episode 16.

    Join us in our very first guest appearance! Megan, a Social Four, gives us a candid and vulnerable look into the subtype that is often considered more "classically" or stereotypically Four-ish.

    Megan highlights differences that Victoria (as a Sexual Four) and I (as a Self-Pres Four) have only been able to speak about, but not experientially convey from the inside-out.

    We hope you enjoy this one as much as we enjoyed making it.

    ~ Bryce


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    55 min
  • Type Four's Incredible Arrow to Two

    Episode 15.

    Victoria and I continue our two-part series on the arrow lines - specifically for the Enneagram Four. We dig into the evolutionary and devolutionary movement to the Point Two.

    We give examples from our own life, with our mission of offering a lucid scoop from the inside of the Enneagram Four, as well as sharing the practices that can help Fours alchemize the slog of personality into the essential brilliance of our simple human nature:)

    ~ Bryce


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    45 min
  • Type Four's Magnificent Arrow to One

    Episode 14.

    Victoria and I dip our toes into the world of the arrows, focusing here on the arrow-to-One. We touch into the Riso-Hudson "integration/disintegration" view, and shine light on the less-well-known Chestnut-Paes "evolutionary/devolutionary" perspective, which says that either arrow direction can be accessed in both conscious/healthy and unconscious/unhealthy ways.

    And as always, we share examples from our own life, with our aim of offering a clear picture from inside of the Four psyche, as well as detailing the practices that can help Fours rise above the morass of personality into the full-spectrum shine of our simple human nature.

    ~ Bryce



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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    35 min
  • Untangling the Instinctual Sequence (as Fours)

    Episode 13 : Show Notes

    * Bryce gets clear on which instinct he's actually repressing: the social!

    * The sexual instinct and merging with nature.

    * Russ Hudson's three zones, inside of each instinct.

    * Uranio Paes and his instinctual sequence descriptors, and the specific growth work.

    * Victoria's clarification of her own sequence, and the repression of the self-preservation instinct.

    * Victoria as Snow White!

    * Bryce fesses up to a wanting of the sp/so/sx sequence.

    * Bryce also admits that he has wanted to have the opposite sequence as Victoria.

    * Deeper into Russ Hudson's three zones of the social instinct: reading people; creating and maintaining connection; participation and contribution.

    * Bryce replies to a post on the CP Enneagram instagram account, regarding abandonment and fours (and a moment of envy, striking!).

    * Most of us are operating at an instinctual level.

    * Bryce choosing to be a "loner" regarding friends and groups - but always on the lookout for "the one".

    * Victoria's general wanting to go outward to "touch in" with others, while less inclined to go inward.

    * For Bryce, a "group" is two or more people - and thus begins his relational confusion.

    * Victoria's inclusive social holding, and her being an inspiration for Bryce! 

    * Good things happening for Bryce in TJ's (Trader Joe's), his new practice ground.

    * Victoria's historical preoccupation with how she shows up in a group.

    * Victoria's practice of relaxing back via the self-pres instinct, staying connected with self, and the increasing balance of all three instincts.

    * Uranio's recommendation for the sp/so/sx: expression!

    * And for the sp/sx/so: empathy.

    * Bryce's reframe: empathy in action! With kids, hospice volunteering, clients.

    * Uranio's advice for the sx/so/sp: STRUCTURE. (Not so impulsive.)

    * Victoria's historically haphazard relationship with the self-pres instinct. And now, an honoring, a taking-care-of.

    * Teasing apart a dominating self-pres instinct in the four vs. repressing the instinct.

    * Also for the sp/sx/so: Think BIG.

    * Bryce's revised path (combining "empathy" + "thing big"): GIVE BIGGER.


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    45 min
  • Poor Self-Image and the Four

    Episode 12 : Show Notes

    * Victoria speaks about a moment of reactivity that happened last episode, and how it threads back to her childhood stuttering.

    * The emotionality of the four, shame, "something is wrong with me", and a low self-image.

    * A practice of not emotionalizing experiences, grounding in the body and breath.

    * Claudio Naranjo's "Character and Neurosis: an Integrated View" and the trait structure of the four.

    * The four's poor self-image, along with "feeling inadequate", "ugly", "repulsive", "poisonous" and more.

    * Bryce's enjoyment of hearing about the ugly of all the types - not just the four!

    * Under Bryce's feeling of invisibility: deficiency and ugliness.

    * Bryce's self-pres four practice via Beatrice Chestnut: lightening up. Also, from Joel & Antonia of "Personality Hacker": loosening up the "image management".

    * The fruits of the practice: thinking less about self-image, woohoo!

    * A moment of Victoria lookin' like an angel with fledgling wings.

    * WHY does Bryce keep going on and on about his poor self-image?! He wants non-fours to get the difference between *moments* of low self-esteem vs. an entire psychological structure built upon deficiency.

    * Bryce takes a little expressionist risk, and feels some repercussions. Victoria champions his moment of practice.

    * Victoria questions Bryce's potential idealizing and pretty-picture-making. Bryce gives a deeper cut into his practice.

    * The alchemizing that happens inside of practice.

    * The strooooong influence of the instincts in the type four.

    * Victoria's sexual four practice of not sending anger outward, and instead relaxing back and down with the energy, and not indulging the poor sense of self.

    * Shining through to something more authentic, real, loving, clean.

    * Victoria's delivery of truth, and the ground of presence and equanimity that it's more and more often coming from, is really beautiful to Bryce.

    * Have questions for us? Or something you'd like to share? Send a message our way!

    * Our social four is on hold...


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    Thanks for listening!

    We welcome feedback and comments related to the content on our podcast. And if you have any questions related to the type four, we want to hear them! Reach out to us here: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠

    If you identify as a four and would like to be a guest on our podcast, let us know! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.victoriaguidi.com/podcast-contact⁠⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to schedule a typing interview with Victoria: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you want to implement the enneagram system as a tool for your growth and development, Victoria provides guidance: ⁠⁠⁠www.victoriaguidi.com⁠⁠⁠

    If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

    44 min

About Deep Diving with Enneagram Fours

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We’re two fours in intimate relationship with one another, speaking candidly from our experience. Victoria is professionally certified through the Chestnut-Paes Enneagram Academy, and Bryce has logged over 20 years of personal enneagram study.

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