Deep Diving with Enneagram Fours

Episode 11 : Show Notes

* We have a (global-ish) audience! Who can ask us questions:)

* Question 1, from "M" in Jersey.

* Bryce's artwork affected by his dominant self-pres instinct: more careful and reserved than the social and sexual four.

* A fiery painting, thought potentially insensitive to a gallery's patrons.

* Making a living as an artist, while remaining authentic.

* Bryce's envy for other artists who express more boldly.

* Victoria's short story about a wife, husband, and fish - a sexual four example of a "darker" artistry.

* Question 2, from "K" in Boulder: comparison, baby.

* Fours being acutely aware of themselves, which creates a feeling of difference, and... uniqueness. And then: comparing!

* Fours over identifying with the shadow, what's different, what's missing, and at the core: feeling separate from Source.

* Self-pres fours comparing and feeling (generally) different, social fours feeling inferior, sexual fours feeling superior.

* Bryce rarely allows himself to feel superiority (that is largely embedded inside his repressed sexual instinct) - but, as part of his path, he's allowing it more and more.

* Whereas Bryce (as a sp4) has been largely unaware of his envy throughout his life, Victoria (as a sx4) has been very aware.

* Victoria feeling "pressure" (in realtime) to say something that will be of value, and the painfulness of this.

* Victoria's competition with and anger toward others, and her practice of turning inward, into the emotional pain and the body experience. And lowering her super-high self-expectations.

* Victoria's (realtime) questioning of the value of what she's saying, and Bryce's perspective on the good of her in-the-moment-practice.

* Another in-the-moment-catch by Victoria, of dramatization.

* Bryce's comparing-self dissipating somewhat, in the context of the client-work B&V are doing together.

* Question 3, from "L" in Boulder: a relationship question.

* Uranio Paes speaks to relationships between two people sharing the same dominant instinct: more comfortable. And relationships with those who have different dominant instincts: more challenging "growth" relationships.

* Final question, from "P" in Scotland.

* Victoria speaks to "sensitivity" as a four, taking things personally.

* What is it to "take something personally"?

* Feeling judged by others, feeling wrong, feeling patronized.

* Victoria notices her sensitivity, in a moment of self-observation, and stops it in its tracks, resting back in herself.

* Breaking out of old patterns, a new emerging way of being.

* Bryce tackles "moodiness", which is all emotional, melancholic - and his practice of NOT getting inside the mood, but instead: lifting his chest, opening his eyes and looking around, letting go of "intense fascination with the mood I'm in", and stepping into service.

* The blessing of this human life.

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If you’d like to learn more about Bryce, his work with men, and his art: ⁠⁠⁠www.brycewidom.com⁠

Episode 10 : Show Notes

* Special note: we have a social four all lined up for an upcoming episode!

* A brief outline of our work, much of which is based on our on-the-ground life-experience.

* Bryce shares a story about a recent medicine journey experience that he and Victoria shared, which he then unpacks through the rest of the episode...

* iAwake: an *awesome* company that Bryce was a beta-tester for some fifteen years ago, and which he offers this affiliate link: https://zo158.isrefer.com/go/home/brightdark/

* Bryce in a hammock, listening to an iAwake track, eyes, closed, and oh boy, his self-pres instinct kicks in STRONG (ie, fear).

* Bryce's four-is shame about his dominant self-pres instinct experience.

* Images of death, but prior to that: visions of torture.

* Filleting out the difference between head-type-fear and self-pres-instinctual-fear.

* Bryce's re-imagining of the moment of Victoria's dad's death: ways that Bryce, had he been there, might have created a different outcome.

* The distortion of the self-pres instinct: "My life is constantly under threat", and Bryce's four-ness then denies it.

* The gift of a healthy self-pres instinct: "Life is a sacred gift."

* Bryce explores the gift of the sexual instinct: "The non-dual unity with everything."

* Victoria shares her experience from the journey, detailing a looking for insight, a comparing mind, and... a very spacious Presencing.

* Bryce describes a very intense physical experience during the journey, and a realization of the degree of bracing against the sensory experience... and an allowing of both the experience and Victoria's witnessing of his experience.

* Bryce's historical harsh-testing of his body's limits.

* BUT - in this journey, something so different: Victoria's grounded and loving presence and holding, and Bryce's allowing of the experience.

* Bryce's subtype-deconstructor practice of leaning into vulnerability and even "weakness".

* Bryce has a moment of honesty and lightness, which begins the unfolding of a very liberating process.

* An invitation to give us your questions!

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Episode 9 show notes:

* Bryce is kinda shocked by how few people he knows who are leveraging the Enneagram as the deep inner tool that it is.

* Living in Boulder, Colorado - where most everyone has some knowledge of the Enneagram, but very few seem to be aware of how powerful a tool it is.

* Discovering "The Complete Enneagram" by Beatrice Chestnut was a a game-changer for Victoria.

* The Enneagram is "not a flattering system" on the level of the personality, and working with it takes a kind of courage.

* Victoria notes that, "To turn inward is a big move, and one might opt out of going into the intensity."

* A more experiential approach to the Enneagram, served up by Uranio Paes and Beatrice Chestnut - including the "subtype deconstructors".

* One of the self-pres Four deconstructors Bryce is practicing: Lightening up.

* What is Deep Inner Work?

* The Enneagram as a system of self-discovery, and the path it offers.

* A. H. Almaas' "Facets of Unity" and the Holy Ideas.

* "Holy Origin" vs the Zen position that "nobody is special".

* This unique self, this manifestation of Being as soul, is often depicted as a lesser truth than the greater truth of unlimited, boundless awareness.

* Almaas notes that it's challening to describe the Holy Idea of the Four, and that most spiritual traditions don't know what to do with this "uniqueness of being".

* Beyond the "arrows of integration and disintegration": the "evolutionary" and "devolutionary" potentiality in each of the arrow directions.

* The passion of each type is alchemized into Virtue; the fixation of each type is transformed into the Holy Ideas.

* The Enneagram looks at Being, personality, reality unfolding through the individual - and we then ask "where am I getting fixated, distorted, delusional?"

* The embodied path of deeper Enneagram work.

* Victoria's convincing experience that the Enneagram really works, and her personality is relaxing, while a deep alive Presencing is unfolding...

* The Enneagram shows us the practices that are most essential for our unique situation, dependent upon type, dominant instinct, subtype, and more.

* We're here to support you!

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Episode 8 show notes:

* Cue: crows!

* A different approach to this episode: letting go of our typical plotting and notes.

* This episode's original theme: "Death & Dying".

* Victoria and the BRCA2 gene.

* Volunteering for Hospice.

* The Turning Point: Victoria names her in-the-moment challenge of sitting across from Bryce, the self-consciousness that arises, the wanting to turn the pain outward and blame the other.

* Reiteration of what this podcast is about: being real.

* Victoria as a sexual 4, grounding and anchoring down in self, taming the raging-fire-force.

* Bryce considers turning attention back toward the original episode theme... or continuing on the path that is now unfolding.

* Robert Thurman's translation of the "Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" (correction: it's actually the classic "Tibetan Book of the Dead"); and Bryce's sense of parallelism between the principles of Living and Dying, and Victoria's moment-to-moment choosing.

* What is it like to consider the BRCA2 gene manifesting in Victoria's body?

* How do I want to relate to my own death?

* Victoria experiences a trip, a fall, an intensity, an urge to cry.

* Victoria as an ENTJ, with Introverted Feeling in the inferior position.

* Momentary shout-out to the "Personality Hacker" Podcast!

* Victoria's wish that her mom was more willing to engage in conversation as she was nearing her death with Stage 4 ovarian cancer.

* A practice of preparation for the meeting of the moment of death, and how Victoria wants to show up; and also, how to open more and more to Life and its abundance.

* Victoria turns attention toward Bryce, who has had his eyes closed in the hopes that Victoria will feel more space and less pressure.

* Bryce reveals that he's feeling in a delicate place.

* Victoria leans in to being "really real" in service of healing and growth, and shares that Bryce's bringing up of the book earlier in the recording was a trigger for her.

* A moment of Silence...

* Bryce shares that he is "doing" his "stupid fucking personality", choosing to hold more and more in.

* Victoria challenges Bryce on his assertion that "at every turn" there is the potential for his behavior triggering Victoria.

* Bryce states that he's in a big "I don't know how to do this podcast" state.

* Victoria grounds in a place of "finding our way" and "staying in it" while in the burn - in service of taming her controlling-of-other, in service to her relationship with Bryce, and in service of the evolution of this Podcast.

* Bryce sees and feels the good that is happening in Victoria, throughout this episode.

* Victoria and the work of the sexual 4: slowing down, becoming unenergetic, sharing pain, taking an inferior position.

* The personality "dying" to allow something new, cleaner, truer to come through.

* Bryce's intimacy with the self (as a self-preservation 4), and Victoria's past envy and admiration of this.

* Bryce holding more in as this episode has unfolded, which is his subtype-usual-same-old.

* Survival fear animates in Bryce, but there's a choice to let go of attachment to feeling safe and feeling understood.

* Meeting as equals in practice, with ground and alignment.

* Holding of clients in deep inner work.

* A chirpy-bird closing, just before Bryce's computer dies - did his audio recording save? Yes!

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Episode 7 show notes:

* Mochi, our special canine guest.

* Looking back at Victoria’s *thrilling* last episode.

* Our podcast intent: Laying out what it is to be identified with our type and run by our instincts - and, what it is to be in the practice of untangling ourselves from the bind of our personality.

* Re-cap of self-pres instinct in health and distortion.

* Really good work has been happening for Bryce, in relationship with his dominant instinct.

* And what follows is more “Bryce in his past, more in his personality”.

* Bryce’s shame of having the preserving drive dominant.

* Unconscious denial of envy.

* Feeling not-so-expressive as a self-pres Four artist.

* Self-censorship, riskiness, carefulness.

* Holding in, embarrassment, shame, not wanting to “cause a problem”.

* Fear in the body.

* Envy has Bryce denying his self-pres fear, as it sounds gross and weak!

* Not so good at handling self-pres needs - why?!

* Abandoned by God, spirit, creation.

* Victoria brings in some political humor:)

* Oy! the tension in Bryce’s body!

* The self-pres instinct - as a Four - running deeper than a focus on the material things.

* Perennial battle around self-worth.

* Not looking for your sympathy!!!!!!!!!!!

* The end of endless journeying, introspecting, selfing.

* Service to others is the medicine for Bryce.

* Feeling invisible, particularly with a repressed sexual instinct.

* Fear of rejection vs. feeling chosen and safe.

* Paralleling Victoria’s last-episode share of her biggest previous relationship, Bryce tells the story from his 20s of meeting his now-ex-wife.

* The story includes flavors of “The Sensualist” - experiencing the sensuality of his body, pleasure, pain.

* Self-pres dominant instinct pulls Bryce inward to his Four psyche, soul, and also his body.

* Victoria speaks to Bryce’s “too cool for school move”, which he explains as being terrified on the inside.

* Bryce’s perplexing mix of self-pres Four attraction-toward, self-isolating-away, and just-general-humanness.

* The self-pres instinct mixing with the Four: “protecting the heart”.

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Episode 6 : Show Notes

* Bryce's voice/lungs are *severely challenged* today, hoooo boy!

* Learning how to do this podcasting thing.

* A suicide in the community.

* As Fours lose contact with Essence, they become susceptible to extreme hopelessness.

* When Fours are grounded in health, they become beacons of light for others, "transforming even the most painful experiences into something valuable".

* Check out Bea & Uranio's CP Enneagram podcast and their cpenneagram.com site.

* Self-pres instinct in its most pure form: life is a sacred gift of creation.

* Social instinct in its most pure form: we are selfless servants to the collective.

* Sexual instinct in its most pure form: no separation between you and I.

* Self-pres instinct when distorted and overdone: my life is constantly under threat.

* Social instinct when distorted and overdone: need to be important is top priority.

* Sexual instinct when distorted and overdone: the other becomes everything.

* The relief of Bryce getting straight on which of these instincts is dominant in him.

* Ichazo & Naranjo nickname the sexual Four as "Competition/Hate".

* A reading of Riso and Hudson's perspective on the sexual Four, which they renamed "Infatuation".

* Victoria gives some background on her time in Central America, to give context to today's episode.

* {EXPLICIT} Victoria reads her short story (written in her 20s), "Show and Tell" - a story which kicks off a relationship in which she was "an entrenched sexual Four".

* Envy and the sexual Four, loving and hating, and wanting to take away from the other.

* Passion, play, adventure, depth, and violence.

* Victoria's wake-up call, and cleaning up and healing using the enneagram: taming the dominant instinct, balancing the centers, finding equality with others, lessening the comparing.

* Grace and the alchemization of personality into something more healthy.

* The trickiness of generalizing the "story" of the Four.

* Bryce is proud of Victoria showin up today:)

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Episode 5 : Show Notes

* Dipping into fours and the Body, Heart, & Head Centers.

* Bea & Uranio’s podcast: “Enneagram 2.0”.

* A very brief overview: the 3 centers!

* Fours over-identify with the Heart Center, and health is bringing the other two centers online.

* Just because we’re fours doesn’t mean we’re healthy in the Heart Center.

* Relaxing the Heart Center - and potential benefits of a sitting practice for the Head Center.

* When Victoria watches the content of her thoughts, she can see how she often dramatizes.

* Sitting practice is quite simple, clarifying, and opens a Presencing.

* Victoria’s yoga practice: deepens awareness into all three centers.

* Victoria and Bryce note that V’s yoga teaching is now less heart-dominated and more balanced, rooted in all three centers.

* Victoria is loving the workout room at the local rec center: a simple being-in-the-body.

* She’s not always had a good relationship with her body. In her 20s, she was motivated by an inferior image and an attempt to get the self-hatred out of her.

* The valuable place of therapy.

* Living in the superficial of the three centers vs living in the deep gifts of each center.

* There is a way through the suffering of the four!

* Do fours require therapy, in a way that other types don’t seem to need as much?

* Bryce asks CgatGPT “What is the most common enneagram type in therapy?”

* ChatGPT answers! And also delivers a ranking for all the types, most likely to least likely to be in therapy.

* Bryce does best when engaging regularly with the Body Center. And it’s simple. Though it hasn’t always been easy.

* Bryce’s Heart Center and self-preservation instinct would push him, in his adolescence, further into his Head Center, into excelling academically.

* Once Bryce hits college, he plunges into the physical.

* Victoria likes how Bryce says “karate”.

* “Being in my body feels really good”, and offers relief from an overwhelming emotionality.

* Victoria sees and feels how much Bryce holds inside, as a self-pres four. - and her seeing really helps him.

* Path of the four embraces simplicity.

* “Direction of my emotions is complexity, but the direction of my body is simplicity.”

* Being in the body, heart, and head: more whole.

* “The lower I get, the more I punish myself - and it’s all emotional.”

* Victoria questions whether Bryce’s relationship with his body has been largely driven by his self-preservation instinct - a pushing away of what’s really here, not addressing the elephant in the room.

* Bryce untangles the elephants, with sidekick assistance from Victoria.

* It’s only recently that Bryce has been addressing the wily predicament of the self-preservation four (who “denies envy”).

* Addressing the centers may be easier (and more obvious) than working to unbind the challenge of the subtype.

* The path is distinctly different for each of the type four subtypes.

* Balancing the centers seem to be foundational in enneagram growth work.

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Episode 4 : Show Notes

* Vicky Cristina Barcelona: some four-ish feels with all the drama, the artist, the wild girlfriend, the emotionality - and maybe, just maybe, Cristina, Juan Antonio, and Maria Elena all as fours.

* Victoria digs Maria Elena's intensity and range.

* Bryce sort of resonates with Juan Antonio.

* Victoria folds Herman Hesse (and his novel "Narcissus and Goldmund") into the episode.

* Bryce resonates with Goldmund, his desire for the sensual experience.

* Our first podcast sound-glitch, oops:)

* Narcissus as the ascetic monk, Goldmund as the worldly sensualist.

* Victoria coins a new phrase: "Top Monk Gun".

* Lionel Richie's "Hello", yep - we have a history with it.

* Bryce's envy for both Narcissus and Goldmund.

* Victoria sees some Goldmund in Bryce, who reflects on pre-marriage romantic life.

* Bryce describes access to his in-his-20s attic room in a house with 3 girls.

* Victoria mentions her erotic short story, "Show and Tell".

* Both Bryce and Victoria have resonance with the erotic in childhood.

* Victoria's erotic nature in late teens and twenties. Bryce has some envy kick up.

* Two fours in relationship: getting one another, seeing one another, growing together.

* Bryce feels fundamentally gotten by Victoria, due to her also being a four. And it's healing.

* Victoria - feeling held and seen and safe - can fully be herself, in all her emotional mess and expression, in relationship with Bryce.

* Victoria's sexual four-ish testing of Bryce, and his capacity to hold without (much) reactivity.

* Victoria's sexual four growth path: expressing less.

* Bryce's self-pres four growth path: expressing more.

* Bryce and Victoria colluding in their personalities in the early years of their relationship: Victoria criticizes and blames as a sexual four, while he as a self-pres four holds in, doesn't communicate, takes in more - and finally reaches a limit, explodes, clarifies, and ultimately "learns to fight".

* Bryce speaks to NOT being a dissociating nine, and instead a hunkering-down, holding-in self-preservation four.

* Victoria clarifies that Bryce's "holding of pain" is a holding of his own pain, and she speaks to her desire to call him in.

* Fours and the general sensitivity to pain, via both self and others.

* The truth and power of Equanimity for the four.

* Victoria's practice of containing, relaxing, holding, presencing, and receiving as a sexual four.

* Victoria's good sexual four work in relaxing her emotional and body experience around Bryce's daughter.

* Victoria calls out Bryce around his narrow perception regarding confrontation.

* As two fours in relationship, a tendency toward withdrawing and distancing, and now - finding consistent repair and greater health.

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Episode 3 : Show Notes

* A moment to set the scene for Victoria: a forest glen with puddling bunnies.

* Sexual 4: “Hurt people, hurt people”.

* "When I feel hurt, I get angry and I want to hurt the other."

* The 4's emotional passion of Envy: constant comparing and chronic disappointment.

* Envy combusts with the sexual instinct: competition, anger, superiority.

* The type-story starts with an uncharacteristic move toward self, inward.

* Meeting Sofia Diaz, the real yoga deal.

* Getting real with oneself, one’s life, and my life depending on this.

* Meeting Bryce, in practice with Sofia.

* Bryce just another wannabe enlightened Boulder snob?

* Falling snow, Bryce, and Beyoncé.

* The sexual 4: “Infatuation”, and feeling drawn to Bryce.

* Originally typed as a sexual 1; anger, criticism, judgment.

* Anger, competition, pain, and blame in relationship.

* Repressed age-13 Trauma breaks open.

* “Truth or Trauma?”

* Focus on what the other is doing wrong.

* Rapture and agony with Bryce.

* Switchback to the self-preservation 4.

* Brief dip into the social 8.

* Uranio Paes suggests the sexual 4, and a weight lifts, an opening, a sobering.

* Importance of knowing subtypes, to clarify mistypes.

* Our professional work includes helping others land in their actual type.

* Victoria's gratitude.

* Simplicity and lightness, awareness, self-observation.

* Purifying, cleaning up, letting go.

* Seeing clearly and compassion for others.

* Forest-animal party-time!

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Episode 2: Show Notes

* Victoria sets a 3.5 min. seaside stage.

* Sp4: countertype of the 4.

* What is a countertype?

* Some silly trumpeting and thunder.

* Bryce, typed as a 7.

* A cautionary DON’T: tell others what type they are!

* The “Blue Book”: Riso & Hudson’s “Wisdom of the Enneagram”.

* Landing as a sexual 9 for 20+ years.

* Eli Jaxon Bear and Ramana Maharshi.

* Envy in the self-pres 4.

* Bennies from working the 9 arrow to 3, even as a 4.

* Confusing the sexual instinct with the longing of a 4.

* A “God-shaped hole”.

* Anecdotal evidence can easily fuel mistypes.

* Confusing a medical condition with the “sleepiness” of the 9.

* The 4 as The Artist.

* “Uniquely special” vs “Nobody special”.

* More on Envy in the self-pres 4: denying the passion.

* Migraines and tension in the body.

* Riso & Hudson’s “Personality Types”.

* Walt Disney, Mr. Rogers, & Marge Simpson vs Rumi, Tchaikovsky, & Leonard Cohen.

* Envy cements in Bryce a sureness in being a 9, not a 4.

* Self-pres 4: acting outwardly as if ok, while suffering inside.

* Many self-pres 4 descriptions not matching up to Bryce’s experience.

* Deeper into the self-preservation instinct as a stand-alone item.

* The self-pres instinct mixing with the 4: reckless, dauntless, tenacious, or: “The Sensualist”.

* Sandra Maitri’s “The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram”.

* Beatrice Chestnut’s “The Complete Enneagram”.

* Hudson vs Bea: is the “Sunny Four” real?

* Bryce’s sister is a 4! (A different kind of 4.)

* “I will never let them see me cry again”.

* “Work work work” and the sp4.

* A personal type meeting with Beatrice Chestnut gives more clarity.

* The huge importance of getting our type right.

* Thanks to Victoria for not letting Bryce hide out as a 9 any longer:)

* The storm has passed, the sun is out.

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