Here is another very special episode of my podcast devoted to Integral Theory and Holacracy. This time we sat down with Dennis Wittrock, one of the early pioneers of Holacracy in Europe. He was a host and translator of the first Holacracy workshops in 2007 in Europe, when the practice was still entirely unknown. Today Dennis is a certified Holacracy coach and currently works for an official Holacracy provider Xpreneurs. Apart from that, he is also filling roles for encode.org, a consulting company powered by Holacracy which is creating legal, social, and financial foundations for self-organization. Previously he supported for 2,5 years Holacracy adoption at Hypoport SE, a fintech-company listed in the German stock-market (SDAX) with over 2.000 employees as internal Holacracy coach. His thought and action is deeply influenced by the topic of transdisciplinarity and Ken Wilber’s integral methodological pluralism. Dennis is the founder and co-director of the Integral European Conference (2014/ 2016) and was CEO and board member of the German Integral Association Integrales Forum and the German Integral Academy (DIA) for several years. We met with Dennis at the Holacracy Forum in Amsterdam. The conversation took us deep into Dennis’s personal journey through the early attraction with the Ken Wilber’s integral theory to the fascination and engagement with the Holacracy practice today. Hope you enjoy!

“Ask yourself how can all these different perspectives on the same phenomena be right, or become more curious about things when something doesn't fit your worldview. Under which circumstances can somebody come up with these ideas? What are the parameters that need to be in place for this truth to emerge for this person in that moment? What is the place you have to stand on, or what are the shoes you have to stand in for those perspectives to make sense? I think that's something we are in deep need to make better connections, especially in the age of hyperpolarization where people stop asking questions. If something doesn’t fit their worldview, then you're immediately the enemy, which is terrible. So we need more curiosity, more real listening. I think that's what I would like to leave the listeners with.” – Dennis Wittrock

Listen and enjoy!