We talk to Mirco Hering about agile dogmatism, the value of diversity, how to experiment with your processes, using stories to drive change, and his book Devops for the Modern Enterprise.

SHOW LINKS:

- Crossing the Chasm: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossing_the_Chasm

- Devops for the Modern Enterprise: https://itrevolution.com/book/devops_modern_enterprise/

- Mirco: https://twitter.com/mircohering

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