Divorce Dialogues

Divorce Dialogues

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Divorce Dialogues episodes

  • Step One on the Path to Happily Divorced with India Kern
    If you’ve been blindsided by an unwanted divorce, the prospect of feeling joy again one day may seem impossible. But if you’re willing to do the work, you CAN choose better over bitter and take the first steps on the path to happily divorced.
    India Kern is the Divorce Recovery Mentor behind India Kern Coaching, a practice dedicated to guiding clients through the transition from married to happily divorced. She specializes in working with people who feel stuck in their divorce pain, helping them gain confidence, build a sense of security, and find joy again. India is also the author of Surviving the Unwanted Divorce: Discover a Purpose-Driven Life After the Devastation of Divorce.
    On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, India joins Katherine to share what it means to be happily divorced and explain how she learned who she was after her own marriage ended. She describes what uncertainty does to the mind, body and soul, challenging us to take inventory of our physical, emotional and spiritual health as a counterbalance to the fear of divorce. Listen in for India’s insight on moving through the grief in order to heal and learn how to take your first step on the path to happily divorced!
    Topics Covered
    How India’s own painful divorce inspired her career as a divorce coach
    India’s description of what it means to be happily divorced
    Why women who define themselves through other people are rocked by divorce
    How to ‘welcome yourself back home’ in the aftermath of divorce
    The value in keeping a journal to track your progress + clarify your thoughts
    What fear and uncertainty does to your mind, body and soul
    The three areas of focus that help counterbalance the fear of divorce
    Physical health
    Emotional wellbeing
    Spiritual life
    Why moving through your grief is necessary in order to heal
    How grief comes back up if you don’t deal with it effectively
    The first step to get you started on the path to happily divorced
    Connect with India Kern
    India’s Website: https://www.indiakern.com/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict
    Miller Law Group
    Katherine on LinkedIn
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    Surviving the Unwanted Divorce: Discover a Purpose-Driven Life After the Devastation of Divorce by India L. Kern: https://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Unwanted-Divorce-Purpose-Driven-Devastation/dp/1642998222
    26 min
  • Nutrition & Wellbeing Through Divorce with Kristin Kirkpatrick
    If you’re in the middle of a divorce, meal planning is probably at the bottom of your priority list. But the fact is, what you eat (or don’t eat) has a serious impact on the way you feel—and the way you feel about yourself. So, what can you do to maintain good nutrition through such a stressful time?
    Kristin Kirkpatrick is the award-winning dietician and nutritionist behind KAK Consulting and manager of of Wellness Nutrition Services at the Cleveland Clinic. With 18-plus years of experience in the health management space, Kristin has appeared on the TODAY Show, NBC Nightly News and Dr. Oz, and her work has been featured in TIME Magazine, Oprah and Women’s Health.
    On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Kristin joins Katherine to discuss the challenges around staying healthy during a stressful time. She explains why so many of us either gain or lose weight during a divorce, offering advice on how to manage what we eat and make choices that improve our mood. Listen in for Kristin’s insight around how stress impacts metabolism and learn what you can do to establish healthy eating habits—even in the midst of divorce.
    Topics Covered
    Why many of us either gain or lose weight during a divorce
    How to manage what we eat during a stressful time
    Link between food and mood
    Practice intuitive eating
    The link between low vitamin D and anxiety + depression
    The benefits and top sources of omega-3 fatty acids
    How to improve our overall gut health
    How stress impacts our metabolism in the short term
    The factors that influence our metabolism in the long term
    How resistance training has helped Kristin’s clients
    What gets in the way of establishing healthy habits
    Kristin’s own experience as an overweight child and teen
    The danger in tying our worth to a number (e.g.: size 2)
    Connect with Kristin Kirkpatrick
    Kristin’s Website: https://www.kristinkirkpatrick.com/
    Kristin on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/krissypicks/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    Cleveland Clinic: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/
    NYT Article on Pandemic Snacking: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/well/eat/pandemic-snacking-junk-food-habits-eating-weight.html
    25 min
  • Has Your Marriage Reached Its Expiration Date? with Debra Doak
    How do you know if your marriage is over? And once you know, how do you overcome the fears associated with divorce?
    Debra Doak is a Certified Divorce Coach and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst on a mission to give women the confidence they need to speak up for what they deserve in their relationships or at the negotiating table. Debra specializes in helping women make difficult decisions about marriage and money, and she is the author of High-Conflict Divorce for Women: Your Guide to Coping Skills and Legal Strategies for All Stages of Divorce.
    On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Debra joins Katherine to discuss the signs that a marriage is over and offer guidance around what to do if you’re not sure whether to stay or go. She describes how she works with clients who are afraid to leave, walking us through her five-step process for identifying, challenging and reframing our fears about divorce. Listen in for Debra’s insight on taking off your grey-colored glasses to imagine a more fulfilling future and learn how to achieve self-reliance in the aftermath of divorce.
    Topics Covered
    Debra’s insight around the signs that a marriage is over
    The concept of negative sentiment override
    Asking your spouse to do 5 things that will make you 10% happier
    What to do if you’re not sure whether to stay or go
    Debra’s take on people who ‘didn’t know the marriage was THAT bad’
    How Debra works with clients who are afraid to leave
    Debra’s 5 steps to DITCH your fears about divorce
    1. Decide
    2. Investigate
    3. Team up
    4. Campaign
    5. Hope
    How to take off your grey-colored glasses and imagine a fulfilling future
    Why Debra focuses on helping women achieve self-reliance
    Debra’s experience working with women who were the breadwinner
    How Debra directs clients to the best divorce process for their situation
    Connect with Debra Doak
    Debra’s Website: https://debradoak.com/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    High-Conflict Divorce for Women: Your Guide to Coping Skills and Legal Strategies for All Stages of Divorce by Debra Doak: https://www.amazon.com/High-Conflict-Divorce-Women-Coping-Strategies/dp/1641528192
    The Gottman Institute’s Negative Sentiment Override Quiz: https://www.gottman.com/blog/quiz-negative-sentiment-override/
    26 min
  • How to Avoid Conflict & Coparent Well in Challenging Times with JoAnne Pedro-Carroll
    The Coronavirus has thrown us all for a loop, forcing us to take on multiple roles at once. Parents are struggling to work from home and homeschool our children at the same time, all while managing financial challenges and fears around the health and safety of the people we love. And divorced parents have the added pressure of coparenting in a time when our parenting plans just aren’t feasible. So, what can we do to avoid conflict with our ex and show up for our kids as the best possible version of ourselves?
    Clinical psychologist Dr. JoAnne Pedro-Carroll is an internationally recognized expert in the field of children and divorce, appearing regularly as a keynote speaker at conferences around the globe. She has 35 years of clinical experience helping families navigate the transitions that accompany divorce and often serves as a child specialist in the collaborative law process. JoAnne is also the bestselling author of Putting Children First: Proven Parenting Strategies for Helping Children Thrive Through Divorce.
    On this special edition of Divorce Dialogues, JoAnne joins Katherine to discuss the heightened stresses divorced parents are dealing with right now and encourage coparents who are struggling to reach out to a neutral third party. She explains why our brains tend toward fight, flight or freeze in circumstances like these and what we can do to respond rather than react—and be the kind of parent we really want to be. Listen in for JoAnne’s insight on seeing your ex as a respected colleague in the business of raising your children and learn how you can help your child build resilience and thrive through divorce AND quarantine.
    Topics Covered
    The stresses divorced parents are dealing with through COVID-19
    Emotions heightened in times of uncertainty
    Overwhelmed with managing multiple roles
    What to do when one parent wants to follow the parenting plan but the other is fearful
    Why it’s crucial to have a safe space for thinking through your options
    The value of a neutral third party to facilitate problem-solving (e.g.: family counselor)
    When our brains tend toward fight, flight or freeze + why that’s not optimal for collaboration
    The relationship between self-care and our ability to be the kind of parent we want to be
    Why asking for help is a sign of strength rather than weakness
    Protecting your child’s health vs. trying to control your ex
    Renegotiating your relationship with your ex as business partners in raising children
    How conflict between parents adds to a child’s anxiety, fear and worry
    The two most powerful predictors of a child’s resilience in divorce
    Parents’ ability to contain conflict
    Quality of parenting itself
    Connect with JoAnne Pedro-Carroll
    JoAnne’s Website: http://www.pedro-carroll.com/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    Putting Children First: Proven Parenting Strategies for Helping Children Thrive Through Divorce by JoAnne Pedro-Carroll, PhD: http://www.pedro-carroll.com/
    JoAnne on Divorce Dialogues EP035: https://divorcedialogues.com/parenting-strategies-to-help-children-thrive-through-divorce-with-dr-joanne-pedro-carroll/
    27 min
  • Realistic Expectations for Successful Stepfamilies with Mary T. Kelly
    The divorce rate among couples in second marriages with kids is somewhere between 64% and 72%. And part of the reason is that stepfamilies face unique challenges and may not have a realistic picture of just how long it takes for stepparents and stepchildren to get comfortable with each other.
    Mary T. Kelly, M.A. is the marriage and family psychotherapist behind Real Stepfamilies, a platform designed to educate, normalize and offer practical solutions for the complexities of being part of a blended family. Her private practice in Boulder, Colorado, focuses on helping step-couples and stepfamilies, and she has 18-plus years of clinical experience in the space. Mary also runs support groups for stepmothers and serves as a contributing writer for Huffington Post and Stepmom Magazine.
    On this episode, Mary joins Katherine to discuss the unique challenges faced by combined families with nonbiological members. She explains what’s behind the cultural stereotype of the ‘evil stepmother’ and describes the unrealistic expectations we have for what our blended family will look like. Listen in for Mary’s insight on establishing a good stepparent-stepchild relationship and learn what new stepfamilies can do to ease the transition for all involved.
    Topics Covered
    Why the solutions counselors use for nuclear families don’t work for stepfamilies
    What’s behind the cultural stereotype of the ‘evil stepmother’
    The competing priorities of being a parent, a spouse and a stepparent simultaneously
    The challenge in taking on the role of stepmother when you don’t have kids of your own
    The therapeutic value of having camaraderie with other stepmoms
    What we can do to ease the transition for married couples with kids
    Establishing realistic expectations for what your blended family will look like
    The pressure some women put on themselves to be the ‘best stepmom ever’
    Why it’s crucial for couples in second marriages to set a regular date night
    Why men tend to be more permissive with their kids post-divorce
    Mary’s insight on what a good stepparent-stepchild relationship looks like
    Connect with Mary T. Kelly
    Real Stepfamilies
    Call (303) 594-5240
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    Mary’s Meetup for Stepmoms: https://www.meetup.com/Stepmoms-AKA-Step-Monsters/
    26 min
  • Coparenting Through COVID-19 with Cameron Goodman
    If you had trouble seeing eye to eye with your ex before the Coronavirus hit, the crisis likely magnified the issue. And with the current restrictions on travel, following your carefully crafted custody plan may be impossible. So, what is the best way to approach coparenting through COVID-19?
    Cameron Goodman is the founder of Goodman Law Firm, a Chicago area boutique practice specializing in divorce and family law. With nearly 20 years of legal experience, Cameron is dedicated to helping families in transition move forward with their lives, leveraging the collaborative process whenever possible to produce favorable outcomes.
    On this episode, Cameron joins Katherine to discuss the challenges of coparenting through COVID-19. He encourages divorced parents to prioritize their kids’ needs over their own and be flexible with custody plans in light of the pandemic, leveraging mediation to facilitate communication when needed. Listen in for Cameron’s insight on how the collaborative process helps coparents work together in a crisis and learn what you can do to demonstrate good parenting judgement in this unprecedented time.
    Topics Covered
    Being flexible with custody plans in the time of COVID-19
    Cameron’s advice for his clients during the Coronavirus pandemic
    Prioritize kids’ needs over own
    Adjust schedule to minimize travel
    The particular challenge when divorced parents see the crisis differently
    When the courts in Illinois are granting ‘emergency relief’
    Why it might show good parenting judgement to see your kids less right now
    How the collaborative process helps coparents work together in a crisis
    Cameron’s description of a high-conflict ‘scorched earth’ divorce
    The broader opportunity for creative solutions afforded by a collaborative team of professionals
    Cameron’s DO’S and DON’TS for coparenting through COVID-19
    DO make child available to other parent by phone, follow jurisdiction’s orders for safety
    DON’T insist on travel exchanges
    How mediation can help facilitate communication between coparents
    What led Cameron to focus his practice on the collaborative process
    Connect with Cameron Goodman
    Goodman Law Firm
    Call (630) 474-6700
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    24 min
  • Sell Your Stuff & Start Fresh After Divorce with Tiffany Ann Beverlin
    It’s difficult enough to move forward with your life after a divorce. But it’s harder yet if you’re still surrounded by the furniture, jewelry, or art acquired during the marriage. Tiffany Ann Beverlin argues that it’s not necessarily healthy to live among the ashes of broken marriage when you’re trying to build a new life. But where can you go to sell those items and get a fair price? Are there options beyond eBay or the local pawn shop?
    Tiffany Ann is the Founder and CEO of Dreams Recycled, an online marketplace that specializes in selling items from a divorce, including engagement rings, bedroom sets and wedding dresses. Dreams Recycled also serves as an educational platform and resource guide, and the site has been recognized as the #1 divorce community in the US. In addition to running Dreams Recycled, Tiffany is a Certified Life Coach, Divorce Expert and author of My Dreams Recycled.
    On this episode, Tiffany Ann joins Katherine to explain how her own divorce inspired the creation of Dreams Recycled, sharing the challenge she faced in reentering the workforce after 10-plus years as a stay-at-home mom. She describes the trend toward living with less she has seen in her work, offering insight around how the money generated from selling marital items can facilitate a new beginning. Listen in for Tiffany Ann’s advice on fighting for what really matters in a divorce and learn how you can benefit from letting go of the material things acquired during a marriage that’s ended.
    Topics Covered
    How Tiffany Ann’s own divorce inspired the creation of Dreams Recycled
    The challenge Tiffany Ann faced in reentering the workforce after a decade as a stay-at-home mom
    What it takes to start your own business as a parent of three
    The emotional relief associated with letting go of items like your engagement ring
    How Tiffany Ann thinks about deciding what to keep and what to sell
    The trend toward living with less that Tiffany Ann has seen in her work
    Turning the money generated from selling marital items into a new beginning
    The negativity and trauma that may be attached to jewelry
    Tiffany Ann’s advice for couples considering or initiating the divorce process
    When in doubt, take high road
    Stand up for best interest of children
    Know WHAT fighting for + WHO up against
    Allow lawyer to act as buffer
    Get informed re: divorce law your state
    Connect with Tiffany Ann Beverlin
    Dreams Recycled: https://www.amazon.com/Dreams-Recycled-Tiffany-Ann-Beverlin/dp/0998268623
    Dreams Recycled on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dreamsrecycled/?ref=br_rs
    Dreams Recycled on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dreamsrecycled/
    Tiffany Ann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanybeverlin/
    Tiffany Ann on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tiffanybeverlin?lang=en
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    My Dreams Recycled by Tiffany Ann Beverlin: https://www.amazon.com/Dreams-Recycled-Tiffany-Ann-Beverlin/dp/0998268623
    26 min
  • Be Your Best Self in the Divorce Process with Nancy Steiner
    The stress of a divorce can bring out the worst in us. Emotions are heightened, and we revert to our most-regressed selves. But it doesn’t have to be this way. You can commit to staying in a place of kindness and compassion, whether or not your ex reciprocates, and achieve a better result.
    Nancy Steiner is the Founder and President of Steiner Coaching Solutions, a practice dedicated to helping people achieve higher levels of potential, creativity and confidence. Nancy spent 40 years producing documentary films and nonfiction network television, telling stories that offered a deeper understanding of the human condition. In 2018, a health crisis inspired Nancy’s transition to coaching, a career that allows her to connect more deeply with people one-on-one.
    On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Nancy joins Katherine to explain how a coach can help you make decisions about who you want to be in the divorce process. She discusses the benefits of taking the high road, sharing what she did to stay grounded in her best self through her own divorce. Listen in for Nancy’s insight on making a blended family work and learn how a coach can empower you to build the life you want—during and after divorce.
    Topics Covered
    What inspired Nancy’s transition from documentary filmmaker to coach
    How Nancy helps clients create their own narrative and move their lives forward
    Learning who you want to be in the divorce process
    Why it’s so easy to become our most-regressed selves in the divorce process
    The benefit of holding to your best self through a divorce
    How a good coach helps you find the answers within yourself
    The questions a coach might ask to help you stay grounded in your best self
    What to do when you catch yourself regressing to your worst self
    How Nancy defines a blended family and what a successful blended family looks like
    Why very different parenting styles make a blended family more challenging
    Connect with Nancy Steiner
    Steiner Coaching Solutions: https://steinercoachingsolutions.com/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    iPEC: https://www.ipeccoaching.com/
    Dr. Mark Banschick: https://thedivorceschool.com/faculty-members/mark-banschick
    The Good Karma Divorce: Avoid Litigation, Turn Negative Emotions Into Positive Actions, and Get On with the Rest of Your Life by Judge Michele Lowrance: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Karma-Divorce-Litigation-Negative/dp/0061840718
    25 min
  • Navigating Eldercare in the Coronavirus Era with Barbara Newman-Mannix
    For adult children with aging parents, the current health crisis is particularly stressful. Some of us are caring for Mom or Dad at home without the help we’re used to. Others are cut off from our loved ones in nursing homes or assisted living facilities. So, what’s the best way to navigate our new role as caregiver if an elderly parent is home with us? Or stay connected to our aging parents if we can’t see them face-to-face?
    Barbara Newman-Mannix is the Founder and CEO of A Dignified Life, a consultancy that helps families understand and manage major life transitions. ADL develops care plans for elder parents and loved ones with chronic illness, connecting families with the professional services they need. Barbara is a fierce advocate for families, supporting them through the difficult healthcare, insurance, legal and financial challenges that come with navigating change around eldercare, end-of-life, divorce or special needs.
    On this special episode of Divorce Dialogues, Barbara joins Katherine to discuss eldercare in the Coronavirus era. She offers advice on caring for a senior parent while you’re working from home or staying connected to a loved one you cannot visit in a nursing home or assisted living facility. Listen in for Barbara’s insight on managing stress through the COVID-19 crisis and learn how you can keep your elderly parents safe and happy—whether you’re in the same physical space or not.
    Topics Covered
    Barbara’s advice on caring for a parent while working from home
    • Create work/entertainment space for senior
    • Set timer for breaks or set up video camera
    Creating boundaries so that you can be productive at home
    The special challenge around caring for a parent with dementia
    How to stay connected if you’re separated from a senior parent
    • Share information with family of roommate
    • Send flowers, photos to enhance environment
    • Create levity in phone conversations
    • Use GamePigeon or listen to/read same book
    Why it’s crucial to show empathy for the staff at a parent’s facility
    Barbara’s insight on managing stress through the COVID-19 crisis
    • Sleep and eat well, drink water
    • Limit consumption of negative news
    • Get fresh air when possible
    Why it’s a good time to explore estate planning with your family
    Connect with Barbara Newman-Mannix
    A Dignified Life: https://www.adignifiedlife.com/
    Call (914) 475-7225
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    GamePigeon: https://www.adignifiedlife.com/
    NY State Health Care Proxy Form: https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/1430.pdf
    NY State Power of Attorney Form: https://www.tax.ny.gov/poa/
    23 min
  • When to Let Go & Go Through with Divorce with Dr. Frederick Tiesenga
    Multiple songs have been written about the futility of trying to make someone love you. But if that someone is your spouse, you may spend years (and a lot of money) in the attempt. So, how do you know when it’s time to let go and go through with a divorce?
    Dr. Frederick Tiesenga is an award-winning, board certified bariatric surgeon dedicated to helping people achieve a healthier lifestyle. He is also the author of I Do Until I Don’t: A Surgeon’s Story of Divorce and Healing, a collection of his experiences through marriage and divorce. In the book, Dr. Tiesenga gets real about what a healthy marriage should look like and shares his hard-earned insights into divorce.
    On this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Dr. Tiesenga joins Katherine to share the story of his own contentious divorce, describing what he did to try and save the marriage—and why it didn’t work. He offers his take on why a prenuptial agreement is a necessity and discusses what couples can do to communicate their needs before it’s too late. Listen in to understand what Dr. Tiesenga did to heal and move on from his divorce and get his advice on hiring a divorce attorney who will advocate for you!
    Topics Covered
    What inspired Dr. Tiesenga to write I Do Until I Don’t
    What Dr. Tiesenga learned from trying to save his marriage
    Don’t force your partner into counseling
    Can’t buy things to make spouse like you
    Dr. Tiesenga’s tips for navigating a contentious divorce
    File counter-petition (no matter what)
    Don’t spend money unless ordered by judge
    Leave courthouse as quickly as possible
    Ask for trial date asap, first deal = best deal
    Why couples wait too long to go to marriage counseling
    Why Dr. Tiesenga advocates for getting a prenup
    How focusing on his career helped Dr. Tiesenga start to heal
    Discussing expectations as couples negotiate a prenup
    Dr. Tiesenga’s advice for choosing a divorce lawyer
    Connect with Dr. Frederick TiesengaDivorce
    Dr. Tiesenga’s Website: https://drtiesenga.com/
    Connect with Katherine Miller
    The Center for Understanding Conflict: http://understandinginconflict.org/
    Miller Law Group: https://westchesterfamilylaw.com/
    Katherine on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kemiller1
    The New Yorker’s Guide to Collaborative Divorce by Katherine Miller: https://www.amazon.com/New-Yorkers-Guide-Collaborative-Divorce/dp/0692496246
    Call (914) 738-7765
    Resources
    I Do Until I Don’t: A Surgeon’s Story of Divorce and Healing by Frederick M. Tiesenga, M.D.: https://www.amazon.com/Do-Until-Dont-Surgeons-Divorce-ebook/dp/B07Y2HXBCX
    Divorce Busting: A Step-by-Step Approach to Making Your Marriage Loving Again by Michele Weiner-Davis: https://www.amazon.com/Divorce-Busting-Step-Step-Approach/dp/0671797255
    26 min

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Divorce Dialogues helps people navigate divorce with dignity, clarity, and perspective. Through thoughtful conversations with experts and practitioners, the show explores the emotional, financial, legal, and relational realities of divorce, so listeners can make better decisions, communicate more effectively, and move forward with greater confidence.