In this episode Mark and Tallulah sit down with producer Dave Meegan to explore the making of Brave.

Dave takes us inside the long nights, impossible standards, and creative tension that shaped one of Marillion’s most ambitious albums — from a French château to Liverpool over more than 7 months.

We talk about why Brave took so long, the danger of rushing creativity, and the fragile moments where everything finally locks into place.

An honest look at what it really costs to make something that lasts.