In this episode of Expansion, Mike is joined by Nick White of Celestia to explore the fundamental challenges of blockchain scaling. They dive deep into Celestia's approach to abundant blockspace, recent protocol upgrades including Shwab and Ginger, and the engineering tradeoffs between modular and monolithic blockchain designs. The conversation covers everything from fee market dynamics across different chains to the recent launch of Astria's decentralized sequencing layer. Thanks for tuning in!

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(06:03) The Lazy Blockchain

(12:19) Celestia Roadmap

(19:57) Incoming Celestia Upgrades

(31:28) Optimizing for Blockspace Demand

(49:59) Astria Launch

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Disclaimer

Expansion was kickstarted by a grant from the Celestia Foundation.

Nothing said on Expansion is a recommendation to buy or sell securities or tokens. This podcast is for informational purposes only, and any views expressed by anyone on the show are solely our opinions, not financial advice. Rex, Jon, and our guests may hold positions in the companies, funds, or projects discussed.