Jonathan Harding makes a welcome return to the show to share insights from his new book 'Soul: Beyond the Athlete'.

Jonathan describes himself as "A sports writer who cares about the person and the player, the coach and the community. I speak German, am a father and try to look after the planet. Seagulls and San Francisco."

Jonathan's first book 'Mensch' which explored the sophistication of the German Football Coach Education System...was a massive hit and is still one of my favourite books on coaching. His follow up book 'Soul' delves deep into the footballing sub cultures of some of the environments around the world that are bravely standing up against the tide of 'premature professionalism' and a 'perform at all costs' mentality that has not only affected professional football but also seeped into the grass roots.

It's a great conversation. I hope you enjoy.

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