Mark and I talk about the origins of PDS from his time in the military and how we came together to embed the principles of PDS across the sporting landscape.

We also discuss my own commitments and some conversations we have had about honouring my own journey of change.

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Taking an ecological approach to learning science, Danny Hatcher is an independent researcher currently based in the UK, sharing interesting trends and stories domestically and from around the globe. Danny holds a BSc in Sports Coaching and an MSc in Strength and Conditioning from Brighton University
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Danny's YouTube channel is amazing...it blends rigorous research with animation to create content that explains complex issues in relatable ways - I highly recomend checking it out. 
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In this conversation Danny shares his unique approach to trampolining, blending ecological dynamics with a passion for movement exploration. From his lived experience of visual and hearing impairments and how this shapes his coaching appproach to his work in both traditional and freestyle trampolining. Danny also offers insights into coaching diverse athletes and how his playful, inclusive methodology fosters personal growth and adaptability, making trampolining accessible and fun for all. 

This is a fascinating conversation and one I am sure you will enjoy. 



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In this conversation Mark and I discuss the challenge of establishing real clarity of the objectives that a person or group wants to set for themselves. We then discuss how easy it is for the leader to fall into the trap of letting them off the hook.

We discuss ways that leaders can lean into the discomfort of the difficult conversation by reframing the awkwardness as a 'duty' and an act of care rather than a point of conflict. We also explore how leaders can frame the expectations in terms of how people interact with each other to minimise conflict and create a 'high challenge - high support' environment.

Mark and I are available to support groups or individuals on their leadership and coaching excellence journey. Please reach out to [email protected] to shape a bespoke package.

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Andrea Andrews is a swimming instructor with a specialist research interest in drowning prevention.

Andrea describes herself like this...

"My aim is to improve the lived human experience in water by helping all ages make sense of the water through natural learner-led approaches that trigger the amazing hidden skills we are all born with.I am in effect focused upon panic prevention by helping everyone overcome emotional dysregulation in water....I am a scaffolder for an elite form of human aquatic prowes..."

Andrea joined me to discuss her unique approach to helping people learn to swim which is informed by the ecological approach. 

Andrea explains how her childhood experiences of play in water shaped her approach to teaching and instructing and how she has been passionate about offering similar experiences to others. In this episode we cover: 

- How people have an 'embodied trauma' that fuels a phobia of water. 
- How babies are actually very adapted to water. 
- How people sense differently in water and how verbal instructions lead to people using the wrong sensory apparatus.
- How traditional teaching could actually be dangerous and lead to increased risk of drowning.

and so much more...
This is an absolutely fascinating conversation - I hope you enjoy

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A new collaboration between Mark Bennett MBE and Stuart Armstrong that looks at topical news items and explore how they impact people in sport, education, business and life through the lens of the PDS philosophy and the principles of Ecological Dynamics. 

Mark and I got cut off by our recording software crashing but we thought we would publish the rough cut anyway!

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David Thomson is an ex army veteran who became a leading financial advisor turned education technology entrepreneur. David is the Founder and CEO of 'Suada' a game changing learning platform that combines the 𝗧𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵-𝗕𝗮𝗰𝗸 𝗠𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗱𝗼𝗹𝗼𝗴𝘆, 𝗔𝗜-𝗱𝗿𝗶𝘃𝗲𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗼𝗼𝗹𝘀, and 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹-𝘁𝗶𝗺𝗲 𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘁 𝗳𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗯𝗮𝗰𝗸, creating an interactive and engaging learning environment that transforms knowledge into practical skills. 

David is also a keynote speaker and 'Entrepreneur in Residence' at Portsmouth University, where he shares his expertise on sales, business transformation, and digital learning. 

David joined me to talk about how I think Suada could become a major part of the solution to bringing, flexible, dynamic, non-linear, on-demand learning and development to the world at scale. In this conversation we discuss the extreme challenges in David's upringing, how this provided a catapult to a career in the Army followed by working in a shoe factory and then into the world of finance before finding his passion helping people learn. 

I am delighted to announce that Suada has now become a channel partner of the podcast - my first channel partner because I am so passionate about the potential of this platform. 

Find out more at https://www.suada.com/

If you would like to set up a call with David and the team to see how Suada could integrate into your organisation's learning goals then drop me a line and we can get it set up. 

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Troy Urdahl is an award winning high school athletic director, a hall of fame coach and a college professor with more than twenty years experience in leadership and coaching. He is now an accomplished author of a fantastic book called 'Chasing Influence' which uses storytelling as a means to put forward lessons about leadership. 

Troy shares his journey from a sports-filled childhood to advocating for multi-sport participation, and delves into the philosophy of coaching with an emphasis on 'why' we coach and building life skills through sports. We talk about the balance between high expectations and support, the power of resilience, and the significance of 'soft skills' in coaching. Additionally, discover concepts like the Finnish notion of 'Sisu' (which roughly translates into 'never giving up'), allyship in sports and Troy's thoughts on the universal value of creating a culture that prioritises relationships over winning.

Hope you enjoy. 

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Stuart Morgan is a high performance coach and performance director working with elite golfers and aspiring players across Europe. Stuart makes a welcome return to the podcast for another frank and forthright conversation about the state of coaching and athlete development. He is also a co host on the brillient 'Practice Thinker' podcast alongside Ian Renshaw and Peter Arnott. 

In this conversation we discuss Stuart's experiences working in multi disciplinary teams and uncovers some of the toxicity that surrounds some of these environments. Stuart also shares his experiences of working as a Performance Director and how he has uncovered coaches that have very little understanding of their approach and how he encourages players to be more questioning of their coaches to avoid path dependency. 

We discuss the latest state of skill acquisition and also get into a deep dive around the way that he field has emerged and the lack of awareness among the vast majority of coaches. 

It's a really fascinating conversation that I am sure you will enjoy. 

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In this episode, I discuss the changing nature of coach education, particularly focusing on the concept of 'deconstructed delivery.' As we move towards more learner-centered models in education, it's crucial to rethink the delivery methods to tailor them to individual needs. I explore the challenges of implementing these models at scale, the limitations of traditional education systems, and the new suite of professional standards in the UK that bring flexibility and transferability in qualifications. The discussion also touches on the necessity of continuous professional development and how adopting a deconstructed, individualized approach can transform the sports workforce and improve outcomes for participants.

01:36 What does 'learner centred' even mean? 
03:50 Why don't people do this already? 
05:18 Barriers to change
08:08 How professional standards open up new opportunities for a more dynamic, learner centred model
11:50 Deconstructed Learning: A New Approach
13:56 RIP CPD

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Tom Hartley is the Coaching Lead at UK Coaching and Foundation Phase Lead Coach at Oxford United women. In this very overdue episode (aren't they all!) I sit down with Tom Hartley to explore his extensive background in coaching and player development.

Tom discusses his journey in coaching including pivotal career moments at clubs like Swindon Town and Arsenal, and unique experiences such as coaching in prisons and internationally. We discuss some of his coaching influences and also expore some of the creative ways that he develops coaches. 


01:38 Career journey
17:37 The role of a coach developer - 'having someone hold onto you while you lean over the edge'
45:30 Creative coach development - 'jelly beans and cocktail sticks'
49:45 How we can support community coaches to 'collect memories rather than medals'
01:04:50 Designing effective individual development plans
01:13:48 Parents as a 'multi-disciplinary team'
01:16:41 Conclusion and future conversations

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