CC470: TW: this episode has mentions of Domestic Violence. If you or someone you love is experiencing Domestic Violence text START to 88788 and checkout www.thehotline.org for resources.

This week Kail and Lindsie are navigating total behind-the-scenes chaos, from missed recordings to hyper-fixations that spiral way too fast. They take a moment to address the internet chatter and give a little context on recent changes, while making it clear there’s more going on than meets the eye.

They also dive into a headline-making reality TV situation with Taylor Frankie Paul & The Bachelorette that has everyone talking, sharing their unfiltered thoughts , before the conversation takes its usual turn into the unexpected—think throuples, age gaps, IVF thoughts, and late-night spirals that somehow feel a little too real.

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