Path for Growth with Alex Judd

Doing What Matters with Michelle Myers and Somer Phoebus


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This is our second conversation with Michelle Meyers, but this time she brought her friend Somer Phoebus. They just recently wrote a book and also run a company together, both by the same name - She Works HIS Way. You are going to love this conversation and we know you’ll find some great takeaways that will impact your life and leadership.


  • Before we jump into their book, I wanted you to hear about Michelle and Somer’s background (2:41)
  • It sounds like you created something because you needed it, not to start a business (6:14)
  • Thinking back to your first 18 months - what was the biggest thing you got from that time period personally? (7:29)
  • Let’s talk about the topic of freedom. What’re your thoughts about freedom and do you see it showing up as a potential idol? (13:37)
  • There’s a difference between having freedom and experiencing it. What does that mean to you guys? (18:03)
  • What happens when we’re operating from the mindset of wanting to do what God wants us to do but we can’t tell what He wants us to do? (22:28)
  • What would you say to the entrepreneur who has achieved a level of success that gives them more time and wonders what they should do now? (29:08)
  • Anyone who is wired as a leader probably struggles with the idea that work = worth. How do you think those connect to each other? (33:23)
  • Your book is constantly combatting the messages that are perceived as true (37:10)
  • As a growth-oriented leader, it can be hard to understand what contentment looks like. What is contentment? (39:44)
  • One of the things I started to pay attention to was that some of the most goal-oriented people I know are also miserable. What is the proper role of goals in the life of a person and business so they can co-exist with contentment? (46:41)
  • How do you evaluate whether something has become an idol? (51:58)
  • One of the chapters in the book is about relationships. Why are adult friendships so important and how do you build them? (55:58)
  • I have to reframe my idea of success when it comes to spending time with people. What is a healthy definition of success for spending time with people? (1:02:00)
  • If someone listening considers their relationship with Jesus as their main thing, what is your encouragement for that person? (1:06:51)
  • Can we close out with a prayer like you do in each chapter of the book? (1:11:47)

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