Don't Eat Poop! A Food Safety Podcast

🍽️ Francine and Matt are building a global, fun, and inclusive Food Safety Family! From the C-suite to the kitchen, they’re making safe food the norm everywhere.

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Another cantaloupe recall. Another round of questions about why the food industry keeps making the same mistakes — and whether the tools to fix them are already sitting on the shelf, ignored.

In this episode of Don't Eat Poop!, Francine and Matt dig into a Salmonella cantaloupe recall, the science of why cantaloupes are such a high-risk product, and a sanitizer that's been EPA- and FDA-approved for years but still can't get traction in the industry. Plus: Francine's heading to the Food Safety Summit to talk norovirus in retail, and the stories from the field are exactly what you'd expect from Don’t Eat Poop.

Spoiler alert: The solutions often exist. The problem is getting a risk-averse, relationship-driven industry to actually use them.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Novovirus in Retail

00:06:57 Cantaloupe Salmonella Recall Breakdown

00:11:58 Hypochlorous Acid: The Sanitizer the Industry is Ignoring

00:19:04 Chemical Distribution & Conflict of Interest

00:30:25 Norovirus Incidents in Grocery Stores

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Is It Time for a “Kill Step” for Pathogens on Produce at Retail? By Eric Moorman and Hal King

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“You can't really sanitize or get rid of all the potential pathogens on the outside of a cantaloupe because of the webbed outside.” – Matt Regusci

“There's something out there that works that nobody's talking about, and there's such a resistance to this product.” – Francine L Shaw

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If you thought chicken was the “safe” option on the menu, this episode of Don’t Eat Poop! might ruffle your feathers. 

Matt and Francine dig into a bizarre (and under-the-radar) food safety incident out of Spain, where children developed allergic-like reactions not from allergens, but from biogenic amines formed due to poor cold chain management. 

This episode is a must-listen for anyone in restaurant food safety, food safety training, or navigating food safety regulations. We break down the science, the risks, and what this means for foodborne illness prevention worldwide.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Get to Know Your Food Safety Podcast Hosts

00:11:00 Biogenic Amine Outbreak in Spain

00:14:47 Poor Cold Chain Management in Foodservice

00:17:56 Why Symptoms Looked Like Allergies

00:21:10 Temperature Control Matters

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Take a look at the articles mentioned in this episode:

• Spanish scientists investigate outbreaks affecting children
• Report of the Scientific Committee of the Spanish Agency for Food Safety and Nutrition (AESAN) on the risk of food poisoning due to the presence of biogenic amines in meals made from chicken meat consumed by children under 3 years of age

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“This is a food safety issue that can happen with a break in the cold chain.” – Matt Regusci

“ Spoiled-smelling meat is not the only concern. Not all bad meat stinks.” – Francine L Shaw

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What do mangoes, government redactions, and conspiracy-level blacked-out reports have in common? 

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, Matt and Francine peel back the layers (and redact absolutely nothing) on a bizarre FDA Salmonella mango investigation that’s about as useful as a blank HACCP plan.

From laughably censored outbreak reports to serious concerns about food safety compliance, conflicts of interest, and transparency failures, this episode dives deep into the cracks in our food safety systems. If you’ve ever wondered how the industry is supposed to improve when critical data is hidden, or how advisory committees operate without clear disclosure rules, this one’s for you.

Spoiler alert: You can’t fix what you can’t see. And right now? There’s a lot we’re not seeing.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Food Safety Podcast Recap

00:08:22 Redacted FDA Salmonella Mango Report

00:13:04 FDA Conflict of Interest Failures

00:20:42 Still No FDA Conflict-of-interest Policy

00:23:01 Real Accountability in Food Safety Regulations

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Take a look at the articles we discuss in this episode:

• Why does a FDA Salmonella Mango Report look like a page out of the Epstein Files?
• GAO says FDA needs to give attention to conflict of interest policies

Check out our episode with Rick Biros: 15 Years of Food Safety Tech: Food Safety Compliance vs Reality with Rick Biros | Episode 161

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“The files for the FDA look similar to the Epstein files, and the GAO is asking FDA, whatcha gonna do about conflicts of interest?” – Matt Regusci

“This is like policies and procedures. If you're not gonna implement them, don't write them.” – Francine L Shaw

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What happens when your sweet treat doubles as a pharmaceutical experiment? 

In this wildly bizarre (but very real) episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine unwrap a shocking chocolate recall involving undeclared active drug ingredients. This episode explores the intersection of food safety compliance, food fraud, and the risks of buying “mystery” products online. It’s funny, it’s alarming, and it’s a crystal-clear reminder that when it comes to food safety regulations, you really don’t know what you’re getting unless proper controls are in place.

In this episode:

00:00:00 “Aphrodisiac Chocolate” Recalled

00:04:36 Health Risks Explained

00:09:09 Undeclared Substances in Supplements and Sports Products

00:14:17 Food Fraud and Dosage Confusion

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Check out the article we’re talking about in this episode: Chocolate products recalled because of undeclared male enhancement drugs

Have a listen to the episodes we mentioned in this episode:

• Insects & Lab-Grown Meat: The Future of Food Safety Compliance | Episode 160
• The Celsius Recall and the Risks of Finding Alcohol in Non-Alcoholic Beverages | Episode 132

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“There's so many things that are wrong with this because you're consuming a drug disguised as a candy and you don't know the dosage.” – Matt Regusci

“Most people don't understand that a lot of that stuff is not FDA-approved. They assume because they can buy it, it's safe.” – Francine L Shaw

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In this eye-opening (and slightly stomach-turning) episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dive headfirst into a real-life case of botulism caused by fermented fish and why “gut health trends” can go dangerously wrong.

What started as a health-conscious bite of fermented “swordfish” turned into a near-death experience for a 24-year-old woman, highlighting critical gaps in foodborne illness prevention and consumer awareness.

From ancient food preservation methods to modern-day food safety compliance, this episode explores how traditional practices can clash with today’s expectations and why HACCP principles aren’t just for professionals anymore.

Spoiler: if it smells like death, maybe don’t eat it.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Botulism from Homemade Fermented Swordfish

00:04:05 Escalating Symptoms: Difficulty Swallowing, Paralysis

00:07:00 What Fermented “Swordfish” Actually Is

00:12:24 Cultural Food and Food Safety

00:19:15 Safe Alternatives for Gut Health

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Food Safety Compliance in Home Kitchens: The Hidden Risks of Social Media Food Businesses | Episode 162

How to Clean Your Refrigerator Properly: This is Food Safety at Home | Episode 159

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“If your choices are occasionally getting foodborne illness or starving to death, I will choose the former over the latter, but if I'm not starving, I'm not going to choose option number one.” – Matt Regusci

“There are people who, if they do live, they don't completely recover from botulism. You live with lifelong ramifications from this illness.” – Francine L Shaw

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If you’ve ever been tempted by homemade dumplings on Facebook Marketplace or the viral “pink sauce” on TikTok, this episode might make you pause mid-scroll. 

In this eye-opening (and slightly terrifying) episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dig into the booming world of home-based food businesses and the massive food safety compliance gaps lurking behind those mouthwatering posts. From underground meal prep hustles to kids selling home-cooked food at school, this episode blends humor with hard truths about food safety regulations, HACCP principles, and the real risks of buying food from strangers online.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Buying Unregulated Food From Facebook Marketplace

00:06:58 Knowing Your Food Source Matters

00:08:58 Dutch Home Caterer Survey Shocker

00:13:10 Food Safety on Social Media

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Take a look at the Food Safety News article we discussed in this episode: Home-based cooks lack awareness of food safety rules

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“There are regulations, but if the entrepreneurs don't know that there are regulations and are just operating under the radar, then there aren't regulations.” – Matt Regusci

“So many people assume if you can buy it, it's safe.” – Francine L Shaw

We hope you enjoy this episode!

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine welcome industry veteran Rick Biros to talk about 15 years of Food Safety Tech and the Food Safety Consortium. We also get the chance to hear about Rick's new upcoming conference, Food Safety Hazards.

From cockroach-laced product horror stories (yes, really) to a deep dive into 15 years of industry evolution in food safety regulations, we unpack one of the most uncomfortable truths in food safety compliance: just because you’re “within compliance” doesn’t mean your food is safe. It’s clear that the industry still has a long way to go in truly protecting consumers.

In this episode:

00:00:00 15 Years of Food Safety Tech

00:10:46 FSMA Success Debate

00:15:35 Food Safety Culture Isn’t New

00:22:37 Benchmarking and Metrics

00:25:59 New Food Safety Hazards Conference

00:35:54 The Broken U.S. Food Safety System

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Connect with Rick here.

Use the discount code poop for a 25% discount at the Food Safety Hazards Conference 2026 (April 20-22) and the Food Safety Consortium (October 23-26).

Take a look at the white paper we discussed in this episode: Integrating the Fragmented United States Federal Food Safety System into a Food Protection System

Read the article Rick mentioned at the end of this episode: Outbreak Investigation of E. coli O157:H7 in Raw Cheddar Cheese. Was it from RAW FARM or Not??

Listen to our previous conversations with Rick:

Behind the Scenes at the Food Safety Consortium with Rick Biros: Conference Culture, Compliance & Community | Episode 123

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“Where this industry needs to go is to turn food safety and quality into a financial benefit to food and beverage companies.” – Rick Biros

We hope you enjoy this episode!

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In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine dig into the rising trend of edible insects and lab-grown meat, and what it means for food safety compliance, foodborne illness prevention, and regulatory frameworks.

From cricket protein powder to 3D-printed steak, this isn’t sci-fi anymore—it’s on your dinner plate. But are regulators ready? Are you ready? And most importantly, what happens when something goes wrong in a sterile lab environment?

Let’s just say: this episode gets crunchy.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Insect Protein and Lab-Grown Meat

00:08:57 Global Food Safety Regulation Challenges

00:13:05 Facebook Marketplace Food Sales

00:19:15 Consumer Trust Issues

00:22:28 Future Food Trends and Concerns

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Take a look at the Food Safety News article we’re talking about today: https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2026/03/insects-and-cell-based-food-on-radar-of-food-regulators/ 

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“Say this does get to a point at which we figure out how to scale printing meat in a lab and it tastes just like meat, what food safety risks come from that in the future? I guess to be determined.” – Matt Regusci

 I can't imagine thinking I'm craving a cicada. I'm craving a chocolate-covered cockroach today.” – Francine L Shaw

We hope you enjoy this episode!

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If your fridge could talk, would it confess to crimes against food safety? 

In this hilariously relatable episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine tackle a topic every food safety professional knows, but many still neglect at home: cleaning out the refrigerator. From expired blue cheese dressing with a personality of its own to mystery leftovers that defy identification, this episode dives into food safety compliance at home, proper storage habits, and the real risks of ignoring expiration dates.

Spoiler: your condiments are probably guilty.

In this episode:

00:00:00 Deep Cleaning Your Refrigerator

00:04:59 The Hidden Danger of Condiments

00:14:43 Safe Thawing Practices

00:23:46 FIFO: First In, First Out

00:27:26 Fridge Sanitation Schedules

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“ When you're cleaning out leftovers, and your question isn't, 'What is this?’ but ‘What was this?’ that’s not good.” – Matt Regusci

“ Folks, it's time to clean out your refrigerator and get rid of those condiments from last summer. Get rid of them!” – Francine L Shaw

We hope you enjoy this episode!

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Food safety regulations can sometimes feel like a bureaucratic maze, but behind the scenes, regulators, inspectors, and food businesses are all trying to accomplish the same thing: keeping people from getting sick.

In this episode of Don’t Eat Poop!, our hosts Matt and Francine sit down with Steven Mandernach from AFDO (the Association of Food and Drug Officials) to unpack the complex world of food safety inspections, regulatory collaboration, and the future of food safety compliance.

From government shutdowns affecting inspectors to the evolving relationship between state regulators, the FDA, and food businesses, the conversation dives deep into how the system really works and where it could work better.

In this episode:

00:00:00 The AFDO, FDA, and USDA

00:06:27 Food Code Interpretation Gaps

00:11:12 Food Facility Inspection Realities

00:22:07 Industry and Regulator Partnerships

00:34:32 Food Safety Workforce Challenges

00:47:02 Compensation And Staffing

00:51:38 The Role of Lawyers in Food Safety

Disclaimer: Episode title and content do not constitute legal or health advice.

Resources from this episode

Connect with Steven here.

Listen to our last conversation with Steven:

Rethinking How Things Are Done to Solve Food Safety Problems with Steven Mandernach from AFDO | Episode 90

Noteworthy quotes from this episode

“I'm not sure it's a science major. I think we could find someone with critical thinking skills, good time management, and who communicates well, and I could turn them into a good food safety inspector.” – Steven Mandernach

We hope you enjoy this episode!

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