The directing duo from "Don't Tell Larry" detail their eight-year journey to turn the phrase, "Don't Tell Larry", into a world, a web series, and feature starring Eg Begley., Jr., Dot-Marie Jones, Patty Guggenheim, and Kiel Kennedy. And they chat with Matt and Oren about how their background in unscripted TV prepared them but also left gaps when it came to making the movie they wanted to make, without EPs steering them off-track.

From 300 pitches to turning down lucrative investors, the pandemic, and choosing to shoot in Dallas, the guys explore all the challenges of making an indie film, and adhering to high standards, all while influencers walk away with the fees that filmmakers traditionally could garner from commercial work. And other filmmakers like, Danny Gervitz's film "The Man in the Photo" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6WpwmPe9Ks, "Skinamarink" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQqilSTxz0 and forgoing distributors and theatrical releases, in favor of going straight to YouTube.

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Matt's Endorsement: "No Hard Feelings" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15671028/

Oren's Endorsement: Eric Chien, the magician https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWO5-0OYMwc

Greg's Endorsement: The book "Day Trading Attention: How to Actually Build Brand and Sales in the New Social Media World." by Gary Vaynerchuk https://garyvaynerchuk.com/attention/

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