Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson joins Sophia today to kick off WIP’s Well & Good four-part mini-series which focuses on sustainability. Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson is a Doctor of Marine Biology, policy expert, writer, conservation strategist, and co-creator and co-host of the podcast How to Save a Planet! On today’s episode, Sophia and Dr. Johnson discuss how Dr. Johnson came up with the Blue New Deal, how the ocean can be utilized for sustainable farming, and how the ocean can be part of the solution to our climate crisis while also creating more jobs.

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