David Kilcullen is one of the world’s foremost counterinsurgency experts and is the author of the books The Dragons and the Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West, The Accidental Guerrilla: Fighting Small Wars in the Midst of a Big One, Out of the Mountains: The Coming Age of the Urban Guerrilla, Blood Year: The Unraveling of Western Counterterrorism, and Counterinsurgency.  

David Kilcullen served in the Australian military for more than 20 years before being recruited as the Chief Strategist in the Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism for the U.S. State Department. He also served as the Senior Counterinsurgency Advisor to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and as an advisor to General David Petraeus. 

He was a counterinsurgency adviser to NATO and the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan.   As the President and CEO of the research and development firm Cordillera Applications Group, he continues to advise private companies and governments around the globe.   On this episode, Jack and David discuss writing, warfare, the realities of counterinsurgency, and more. 

Presented by SIG Sauer. 

Featured Gear and Books : 

From David Kilcullen: 

The Dragons and the Snakes 

Counterinsurgency 

Blood Year 

Out of the Mountains  

The Accidental Guerrilla 

 Rise and Kill First  

Counterinsurgency Field Manual  

Unrestricted Warfare  

Black Moleskin Notebook 

Kelly Slaten Pen 

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