I met Roan and Karrie at a boatyard in St Augusitne when they were getting a small catamaran ready for the great loop. I was surprised to learn that they were not sailors, but that the great loop was one of many adventures they had planned. We talk about setting up and preparing for their dream, riding motorcycles across America, skinny dipping in the Arctic Ocean, travelling the Pan-American highway in a van, sailing the great loop, Mexico, their van, books, and much more.

Rick has been a professional Musician since the 1960's, playing guitar and managing bands, and author of the book, "High in the Mid-60's." We talk about making people happy through music, the musical optimism of the 1960's, gratitude, getting started as a performing musician, the source of music, psychedelics, transcendental meditation, yoga, avoiding drug addiction, mystical experiences while performing onstage, pottery, James Brown, and much more.