Our interview today is with Philippe Grenade-Willis, someone Daniel's been working with for a few years now on various art projects for both WildFed and Surthrival. Philippe is an incredible illustrator with a passion for the outdoors and the creatures that live there.

In a nod to Daniel's former podcast, ReWild Yourself, today's episode is a bit more esoteric than most of the content we curate here, but it's also a LOT of fun. Daniel and Philippe talk about art, dreams and archetypes. About the metaverse, transhumanism, and how quickly we are headed into artificial worlds at the expense of the natural one. And they discuss the journey that those of us who didn't grow up as hunters must embark on to embrace our new roles as ecological predators. It's a fascinating conversation that we didn't want to end.

Philippe is currently working on the art for the packaging on a new and very exciting Surthrival product and just finished up a t-shirt design that we are launching today — our Antidote to the Metaverse shirt. We highly recommend you check out his art on his instagram page — @OurNuminousNature. It'll give you some insight into the things we talk about in this episode.

As we discuss here today, our world is changing fast. Soon, it just might be unrecognizable from the one you were born into. But nature is a compass that is true, one you can trust to keep you grounded in reality. It's something more complex and beautiful than anything humans can create themselves, and as captured as we may be by the glitz and bright lights of our technology, it doesn't take much more than a walk in the woods to prove it. We suspect you already know and believe that, and that's why you listen to a show like this one.

Nature truly is an antidote to the metaverse. One, we suspect, we're all going to desperately need in the years ahead.

View full show notes, including links to resources from this episode here: https://www.wild-fed.com/podcast/153