It was SUCH an honor and a pleasure to exchange words and thoughts and smiles with Stephen Jenkinson. I have very few role models. Perhaps Hypatia or Joan of Arc, but given that they both died before I took incarnation this go around, I have no idea if the way they rolled would really, truly jive with me. Stephen Jenkinson is one of a handful of contemporaries who genuinely inspire me. His work had a powerful effect on me back in 2014, when I was supporting my friend – another Stephen – through the dying process. I have since watched his documentary (“Griefwalker”), read some of his books, and seen him perform with his band. I am consistently and actively struck by his wisdom, humility, dignity, presence, charisma, and – of course – word wizardry. This conversation was such a treat for me, despite the nervousness, and the time constraints, which had me resisting about a dozen urges to press into Stephen’s responses, and dive way deeper, opting instead to keep the conversation moving on a more horizontal trajectory. As I’d expected, Stephen blew my mind, gave me mucho to think about, and graciously endured my questions and perspectives. I trust you will enjoy this chat as much I as did having it. Find Part 2: danikatz.locals.comwww.patreon.com/danikatz Safeguard your empowerment and your autonomy with my Language of Sovereign Authority webinar, available for lifetime viewing now: www.quantumlanguaging.com/webinars/ Find Stephen (and be sure to catch one of his live shows/speaking events from his upcoming tour!): www.orphanwisdom.com Show notes:

• Credibility & responsibility~ the makings of a dignified rebel
• How personal choice leads some people to be complicit in their own bodily demise
• A titanic disaster~ how innovations of modernity invites us into places we don’t belong
• The legacy of Covid-19 exists in the ongoing anxiety and curtailment of individual rights & freedoms
• What characterizes a “tragic” death vs a “good” death?
• A perfect storm~ finding balance, purpose & clarity at Harvard
• "Death has no spokesperson"~ examining how we speak/don’t speak about death
• The power of presence~ how it’s possible to be dying and OK at the same time
• Making a living from newly dying~ Stephen’s personal experience with near death
• Going forward: you must employ the fact of your death so you can answer the call of the world
• A fine epitaph~ living within your psychic means