Continuing her journey around the Enneagram, Katie talks to Meaghan, a freelance American Sign Language interpreter who loves traveling, new restaurants, and advocating for the deaf community.

We talk about the difference between anger and rage, how your childhood environment sticks with you, and get into some differences between 6 and 8.

Our inaugural Episode!

In this discussion on Early Access, host Katie Whitlock sits down with her close friend Michael —an Ironman-in-training, soon-to-be husband, and a reluctant but curious student of the Enneagram.

Together they explore what it’s like to be “typed” when you’re not sure of your number, walking through hallmark traits of Enneagram Sevens and how they show up in Michael’s life.

From balancing a jam-packed calendar with his craving for freedom, to reframing hard emotions, to navigating relationships with his fiancée and family, Michael offers a candid look at the gifts and struggles of living in the “positive half” of life.

If you’ve ever wondered what it feels like to test-drive an Enneagram type in real time—or to see how the framework lands with someone who resists being put in a box—this honest, funny, and insightful conversation is for you.

Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS

RELEASING | OCTOBER 7

A new podcast for the Enneagram Channel.