Jampal Norbu considers the 18th verse of Lojong, "The Mahayana Instructions for the transference of consciousness are the five thoughts. Conduct is vital." We examined how the Five Strengths apply to everyday life in the previous episode. Now, we will see how the Five Strengths apply to the end of life. Dharma teacher Elizabeth Mattis Namgyel joins Dungse Jampal for a thoughtful dialogue on how mind training can make a difference at the pivotal moment of disillusionment. Theme music by Matt Quentin.