In this episode of the Jim Wallis Podcast, Jim Wallis sits down with Dr. Reggie Williams, Bonhoeffer scholar and Associate Professor of Theology at St. Louis University, for a fearless exploration of Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s radical life during the rise of Nazism in Germany. Williams draws a bold, unflinching line from Bonhoeffer’s resistance against Hitler-era fascism to the present-day surge of Trumpism, MAGA extremism, and White Christian Nationalism plaguing American democracy. Together, they illuminate how Bonhoeffer’s immersion in the Black Social Gospel at Harlem’s Abyssinian Baptist Church transformed his vision of faith and justice—offering urgent lessons for those who refuse to cower before today’s resurgent tides of Christianized authoritarianism.

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