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Episode 85 Ellen Mathys and David Schuldes Part 1 of 2
A stunning double murder shocked quiet, rural Marinette, Wisconsin in 1976. A loving engaged couple went camping in one of the verdant parks in the northern part of the state – and were found dead. David had been shot in the throat; Ellen had been raped and shot to death. The senseless, seemingly random crime double homicide rocked Marinette County, and set determined investigators on a 40 year journey to catch a killer. Despite a good sketch of the suspect, he remained unidentified until forensic genealogy led investigators right to his door – 20 miles from the park where he had slain David and Ellen. Prosecutors put together a case against grandfather Raymand Vannieuwenhoven that was largely based on the DNA – would it be enough for the jury?
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Episode 85 Ellen Mathys and David Schuldes Part 1 of 2
A stunning double murder shocked quiet, rural Marinette, Wisconsin in 1976. A loving engaged couple went camping in one of the verdant parks in the northern part of the state – and were found dead. David had been shot in the throat; Ellen had been raped and shot to death. The senseless, seemingly random crime double homicide rocked Marinette County, and set determined investigators on a 40 year journey to catch a killer. Despite a good sketch of the suspect, he remained unidentified until forensic genealogy led investigators right to his door – 20 miles from the park where he had slain David and Ellen. Prosecutors put together a case against grandfather Raymand Vannieuwenhoven that was largely based on the DNA – would it be enough for the jury?
To listen to every episode of DNA: ID ad-free and get other benefits, simply visit our channel page on Apple Podcasts to get started with an AbJack Insider subscription. Of course, you can also support DNA: ID with a Patreon subscription.
For all things DNA: ID, visit the show's homepage Visit this link to buy DNA ID Merch Follow DNA: ID on Social Media on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram

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