Sarah Bergenfield says that before getting a diagnosis of autism, she was confused. She was overwhelmed by a constant barrage of stimulation, relationships with other people were off-putting and life’s unpredictability left her feeling exhausted. She was diagnosed in her 50s and says that while life is challenging, it’s no longer confusing.

This week, embracing neurodiversity: why difference is not a defect. Sarah is a therapist and author of a forthcoming book, Embodying Autism: Navigate Your Autistic Brain, Body and Mind.

Also joining us is cognitive scientist Maureen Dunne, who says we need more neurodivergent thinkers in the workplace to challenge a “business as usual” mindset. Her book, The Neurodiversity Edge, is about how organizations can embrace people with autism, ADHD, dyslexia and other neurological differences.