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Sandie Morgan and Derek Marsh discuss how anti-trafficking efforts can be adjusted to increase the focus on labor trafficking and how the five P model works strictly related to labor trafficking. They go into depth on being victim-centered and trauma-informed when working with labor trafficking victims and how sex trafficking efforts relate to labor trafficking efforts.
Derek Marsh, MA, MPA
Derek Marsh retired from the Westminster PD, CA, after more than 26 years of service. In 2004, Marsh helped start the Orange County Human Trafficking Task Force (OCHTTF). He served as the co-chair of the OCHFFT from 2004-12. During that time, he developed and taught courses in human trafficking across the state of California, provided oversight to human trafficking investigations, assisted in creating human trafficking DVDs, wrote multiple grants, and provided Congressional testimony twice as a human trafficking expert witness. He has presented anti-human trafficking trainings across California and the United States, Saipan, Italy, and Argentina. He has taught human trafficking undergraduate courses at Vanguard University from 2009 to present. He has served with the United Nations to train Rwandan immigration officials, law enforcement, prosecutors, and NGOs over four intensive seminars in 2017. Currently, Derek Marsh works as the Assistant Director at the Global Center for Women and Justice. He is researching how human trafficking task forces identify, investigate, and prosecute labor trafficking cases throughout the United States through on-site visits and review of historical task force and federal performance documents. He is helping to develop and provide training and technical assistance through the BIA, TTAC, and OVC-TTAC agencies. His expertise in Criminal Justice will contribute to the research, education, and advocacy mission of the Global Center for Women and Justice.
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Dave Stachowiak [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, this is episode number 254, How to Think About Labor Trafficking in the Five P Model with Derek Marsh.
Production Credits [00:00:11] Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.
Dave Stachowiak [00:00:32] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandie Morgan [00:00:38] And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave Stachowiak [00:00:41] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Today, we’re going to be looking at our conversation through the lens of labor trafficking. And Sandie, we have a guest with us today who’s a very close friend and collaborator with us, of course, and a many time pass guest, Derek Marsh. I’m so glad for us to have him back.
Sandie Morgan [00:01:06] Hey, Derek, it’s good to have you here. Derek, for those of our listeners who aren’t up to speed is the Associate Director of the Global Center for Women and Justice. So, Derek, can you give us, first, a little bit of an update on where you’ve been on your journey as to how to respond to labor trafficking?
Derek Marsh [00:01:29] Well, first, thanks for having me back again, Dave and Sandie. So, journey on labor trafficking. Well, obviously, with the Global Center, we’ve been working and expanding our offerings for the AHTC Program, or our Certificate program, to include labor trafficking and some offshoots from that. So we have some courses that relate to that, now. In addition, as some of you may know, I had the opportunity and pleasure to be a fellow with the BJA a few years ago, where I focus on labor trafficking and what the task forces are doing to pursue and investigate and prosecute labor trafficking. And that’s really where a lot of my expertise was actually fine tuned. So that actually helped me a lot to understand the opposite. Some of the task forces, as you know Sandie and Dave, focus on sex trafficking because it’s, I think, a little bit more straightforward and lower, you know, laying fruit, if you will. And so the labor trafficking has always been a challenge for task forces, at least since 2010. So it’s always good to understand a little bit about how we can incorporate tactics and strategies for anti-labor trafficking into our U.S. efforts.
Sandie Morgan [00:02:40] Well, and when you were the fellow for BJA, Bureau of Justice Assistance, you met with task force leaders from across the U.S. And so you really have an understanding about what our current task forces look like, how they’re structured, and how we might do a better job of identifying labor trafficking. I’ve been reading a lot of articles coming out of the United Nations, the European Union, from our own State Department, from Ambassador John Richmond, about the growing awareness of the size that just the magnitude of labor trafficking. And yet our focus has been predominantly sex trafficking. I just saw an evaluation of federal cases in the U.S. during 2020 and 23 percent of the labor trafficking victims were minors, they were children. So this is an area where we need to literally do what we say we’re going to do in the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. We want to study this issue so that we can begin to articulate, to speak up for those victims and make a difference in a structured and consistent manner. So I thought it would be fun for you and I–because we’ve been partnering at the Global Center with three federal task forces and we go and meet with them, we kind of follow ...
Dr. Sandie Morgan, Dr. Bonni Stackowiak, and Prof. Warren Doody discuss the importance of overlapping networks as a method for pursuing interdisciplinary work. Together, they discuss Dr. Elizabeth Dermody Leonard, a significant mentor in all their professionals and personal lives, who encouraged and pushed them all to think and work outside their traditional academic and professional realms.
Bonni Stackowiak
Dr. Bonni Stachowiak is the Dean of Teaching and Learning at Vanguard University of Southern California. She’s also an Associate Professor of Business and Management and teaches a couple times a year in an Educational Leadership doctoral program. She’s been teaching in-person, blended, and online courses throughout her entire career in higher education. Bonni gets the privilege of speaking with exceptional educators on a weekly basis, as the host of the Teaching in Higher Ed podcast. Since 2014, her podcast has provided a space to explore the art and science of being more effective at facilitating learning. Teaching in Higher Ed also explores how to improve our productivity, so faculty can have more peace in our lives, and be even more present for our students. Bonni and her husband, Dave, are parents to two curious kids, who regularly shape their perspectives on teaching and learning.
Warren Doody
Warren Doody is the Associate Dean of the Division of Education, Arts and Humanities, and he is also the current Chair of the English department. As Professor of English, his range of classes runs from Shakespeare to American Literature to a variety of creative writing courses – Travel Writing, Playwriting and the Short Story. In his spare time, he is a working playwright, and his original scripts include Life Without Parole, Development, and Enlightenment.com. His most recent effort, Angels in Disguise, received its World Premiere in December 2019. His plays have received productions in New York, Los Angeles, and Canada, and throughout the United States.
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Dave Stachowiak 0:00
You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. This is episode number 253, Overlapping Networks with Podcasts, Performing Arts, and Professors.
Production Credits 0:11
Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.
Dave Stachowiak 0:32
Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandra Morgan 0:38
And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave Stachowiak 0:41
And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie, as we have talked about on the show before, you are really an expert at overlapping networks and helping different folks, different organizations, and all kinds of networks to come together. It’s one of the things that I just think you’re so brilliant at. And one of the places where we have overlapping networks, both you and I, is my wife, Bonni Stackowiak, and she has a podcast called Teaching in Higher Ed, which helps faculty at universities to continue to improve their teaching skills, stay centered on student learning, and help them to really build and enhance their own personal productivity. And actually, we have a connection there as well, because it does have a little bit to do with ending human trafficking, because I know you listen to the show as well.
Sandra Morgan 1:38
I do! And she inspires me, and challenges me, and I hone my teaching skills. I also have learned so much from her about interdisciplinary work, which is really important because I oversee our interdisciplinary Women and Justice Minor. And so, as she and I were talking about one person who impacted us a great deal early on when we came to Vanguard, Professor Elizabeth Dermody Leonard, she started dreaming about a podcast that would honor that interdisciplinary legacy. And eventually, we actually recorded it. And it’s an interview with our professor, friend, and colleague from performing arts in the English department, Professor Warren Doody, and myself, and Dr. Bonni Stachowiak. And so I want to use this interview as an example of how we bring a variety of disciplines to a social justice issue, violence against women, and what that looks like in the media and in the arts. I think, Dave, when you interviewed me on coaching for leaders, it was a wonderful opportunity for me to understand how significant this idea of overlapping networks is in our movement. And as our movement matures in ending human trafficking, we have to be more inclusive. Last podcast with Kathy Givens, we talked about mentoring, and instead of one-on-one mentoring, she wants a network of mentors. And so, I think this is a great example of those overlapping networks. And the Coaching for Leaders episode that we did is number 205 here, and what is it in Coaching for Leaders, Dave?
Dave Stachowiak 3:56
I believe we said 422 earlier. Did I, uh, let me look here just to make sure. Yep, it’s 422. And we’ll have that linked up in the episode notes for this episode as well.
Sandra Morgan 4:07
Oh, that’s great. So what I really want people to do is listen to this story. This is about a very dear friend, and colleague for all three of us in this conversation. And she has unfortunately, passed on but she points us in a direction of research, and teaching, and making a difference through education. So listen in and think about how you might start reaching out to other networks.
Dave Stachowiak 4:44
So many of us have been touched by the life of Elizabeth Leonard, and so we’re bringing this interview to you from the teaching in Higher Ed podcast. Here’s Bonni, Sandie, and Warren.
Bonni Stackowiak 4:56
Today, I am joined by two friends and colleagues, Sandie Morgan, who’s the Director of Vanguard’s Global Center for Women and Justice. She’s also an interdisciplinary thinker and professor in her own right, as you’ll hear a...
Dr. Sandie Morgan and Kathy McGibbon Givens discuss how to get “unstuck” in survivor aftercare. They consider the language we use, aftercare programs, and holistic approaches when serving survivors on their journey to become unstuck.
Kathy McGibbon Givens
Kathy McGibbon Givens is a wife, mother, author, and playwright who has overcome the dark world of sex-trafficking. Kathy’s goal is to raise awareness, fight for those who are being trafficked, and mentor those who have overcome it. She is now Co-Founder and Executive Director of Twelve 11 Partners and in 2021, she was appointed to be a member of the U.S. Advisory Council on Human Trafficking.
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Dave Stachowiak 0:03
Production Credits 0:10
Dave Stachowiak 0:31
Sandra Morgan 0:37
Dave Stachowiak 0:39
Kathy McGibbon Givens 1:34
Sandra Morgan 1:38
Kathy McGibbon Givens 2:01
Sandra Morgan 2:10
Kathy McGibbon Givens 2:39
Sandra Morgan 4:53
Kathy McGibbon Givens 6:03
Dr. Sandie Morgan and Dave Stachowiak discuss policy and its significant role for faith-based organizations in combatting human trafficking. Dr. Morgan explains how policies maintain the expectations of staff and volunteers and protect the mission of the organization.
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Dave Stachowiak [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. This is episode number 251, How to Build an Anti-Human Trafficking Policy for your Faith-Based Organization.
Production Credits [00:00:12] Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.
Dave Stachowiak [00:00:33] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandie Morgan [00:00:38] My name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave Stachowiak [00:00:41] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie, believe it or not, we have been going over 10 years now on the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. What a privilege it has been to work with you and share the microphone with you this whole time. I have learned so much and there’s so much more to learn. And in fact, you’re writing a book, aren’t you?
Sandie Morgan [00:01:08] I am. My friends and I decided we needed to put together a handbook for Christian leaders on ending human trafficking. And they convinced me that between the three of us, we could get it done. Because you know me, I’ve got six things going on at the Global Center for Women and Justice, and so I thought: ‘when I retire, I’ll write a book.’ But, we did it by collaboration–and you know how much I love collaboration. And it is now at the publisher–the manuscript–and they’ve shown us cover samples, and it’s really going to happen.
Dave Stachowiak [00:01:51] Wow. Cool. Well, today is going to be the first of probably a number of conversations that we’re going to have in the future on this topic. And of course, as you’d expect, the topic is going to be on ending human trafficking in a faith-based organization. And so today, maybe a bit of an introduction to this so that we can really support those who are in our listening community of beginning to think about this from a faith-based standpoint. And Sandie, as we talk about so often, with the importance of partnership in so many venues, law enforcement, like we talked about last time; government, as we often talk about on the show, having government leaders on; and of course, the faith-based community is such an important partner in the work we’re doing, aren’t they?
Sandie Morgan [00:02:37] Absolutely. Absolutely. And over the years, I love thinking about this, this is our our 10th anniversary. We need to have a party. Wait, I have to get my last vaccine first and then we can have a party. So we started out with just three P’s: Prevention, Protection, and Prosecution. Right. And then we added Partnership, and then we added Policy. And I want to talk about policy today with regard to our faith-based partners.
Dave Stachowiak [00:03:09] What’s the importance of looking at and talking about policy?
Sandie Morgan [00:03:16] Policies give us a way to operationalize our procedures. If you think about policies from a business perspective, you’ve got HR policies, accounting policies, codes of conduct, email policies, diversity and inclusion policies. And all of them are designed to maintain our expectations between each other, which that reduces friction, and protect the mission of the organization. So, anti-human trafficking policies are going to create process, develop patterns of ethical best practice that everybody in the organization agrees on. So many times, I feel a little frustrated when I listen to leaders, I’m not overusing the word pontificate about how valuable individual people are, but we need to be able to prove that we value human dignity. So this term operationalize, that’s a way for us to put down on paper that when these things happen, this is how we know that we have maintained human dignity–and it creates an instrument for accountability. If we all agree that confidentiality around survivors is a standard in our organization, when someone breaks that, we have a place to say, see, we all agreed on this and you signed this agreement. So, we’ve got to figure this out. So, it helps us develop accountability.
Dave Stachowiak [00:05:07] Who are policies for?
Sandie Morgan [00:05:10] Now, that’s a great question, because in the faith-based community we are, we have a pretty loose structures. We don’t have like a flowchart down to everybody in the organization. At Vanguard, we have a staff and faculty flowchart and I know where everybody fits, but that doesn’t happen in our faith-based community and our churches. So, we want policies, though, to be inclusive for leaders, for staff, and especially for volunteers. And this is probably the biggest gap: our volunteers don’t know what the standards are.
Dave Stachowiak [00:05:55] You mentioned the five P’s, and of course, as you also mentioned originally, this started with three P’s. But when we’re thinking about the lens of the five different P’s, what’s a good starting point on each of these areas?
Sandie Morgan [00:06:11] Well, you know, I’m from a non-tech generation, so for me, I imagined a binder. I discussed this with some of my colleagues and especially my students, and they’re like, no, we want to have a central drive where everybody can access this, but, bear with me and just imagine a binder with five sections in it.
Dave Stachowiak [00:06:35] Like a trapper keeper that I had when I was a kid going to school.
Sandie Morgan [00:06:39] Exactly.
Dave Stachowiak [00:06:39] With the different folders in it.
Sandie Morgan [00:06:42] And you’re going to have a divider for each of the five P’s: Prevention, Protection, Prosecution, Partnership, and Policy.
Dave Sta...
Dr. Stephany Powell retired from the Los Angeles Police Department as a Sergeant in charge of a Vice unit. Dr. Stephany Powell’s unique insight into the world of sexual exploitation and trafficking gained through her thirty years with the Los Angeles Police Department has made Dr. Powell an unparalleled choice to lead Journey Out in 2013 (formerly known as the Mary Magdalene Project). Journey Out assists victims of human trafficking in finding their way out of violence and abuse, due to sexual exploitation or forced prostitution. In 2020, she joined the National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE) as the Director of Law Enforcement Training and Survivor Services. She is also the law enforcement human trafficking training consultant for Selah Way Foundation.
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Dr. Stephany Powell trains law enforcement officers on the ins and outs of human trafficking. She shares stories of times she missed signs of human trafficking and wishes she had known better. Now, she educates officers, so they can detect signs and help victims.
When law enforcement works with non-profits, victims can receive the well-rounded support that they need, which builds trust between survivors and non-profits.
According to a study done by ASU, out of all first responders, firefighters are the most likely to be the first point of contact of someone who is in captivity.
In order to combat demand for human trafficking, we must enforce consequences on those that are creating the demand and treating human begins as a commodity.
Resources
Journey Out
Selah Way Foundation
Stephany Powell Linked In
My Choice, My Body, …….My Rules: A Workbook in Prevention
National Center on Sexual Exploitation (NCOSE)
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, this is episode number 250, How to Work With Law Enforcement, with Dr. Stephany Powell.
Production Credits [00:00:10] Produced by Innervate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:30] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak
Sandie [00:00:36] and my name is Sandie Morgan,
Dave [00:00:39] and this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie today’s conversation I’m really looking forward to because we have with us an expert who’s going to really help us to discover the practical ways to work with law enforcement as we talk about, often on the show, the importance of partnerships across organizations, across agencies and, of course, law enforcement. Such a critical partner in all the work we are doing to end human trafficking. I’m so pleased to welcome to our show today. Dr. Stephany Powell. Stephany retired from the Los Angeles Police Department as a sergeant in charge of a Vice unit. Her unique insight into the world of sexual exploitation and trafficking, gained through her 30 years with the Los Angeles Police Department, made her an unparalleled choice to lead Journey Out in 2013, formerly known as the Mary Magdalene Project. Journey Out assists victims of human trafficking and finding their way out of violence and abuse due to sexual exploitation or forced prostitution. In 2020, she joined the National Center on Sexual Exploitation as the Director of Law Enforcement Training and Survivor Services. She is also the law enforcement human trafficking training consultant for the Selah Way Foundation. Dr. Powell, so glad to have you here on our show.
Stephany [00:02:06] Thank you so much. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Sandie [00:02:09] Well, I can hardly wait to dive into this conversation, and I know our listeners will benefit from your years of experience. We were doing a little pre-show recording talk, and during covid, we haven’t seen each other very much. And the last time that we were in person was literally at the human trafficking summit in the White House. So, I just say that because I want you all to know what a rock star, we have on our show today. So, Stephanie, let’s start talking about what are the keys to training your peers around the unique issues related to human trafficking and especially sexual exploitation. You’re like the guru of law enforcement training.
Stephany [00:03:04] You know, thank you so very much, and I think the key is when members of law enforcement can connect the dots, meaning that not only is it happening to the people they serve, but to perfectly understand that this could be their family member as well. So, giving them the human side of this, because usually when I’m doing a presentation with law enforcement and I start talking about the fact that this could be their daughter or their granddaughter or grandson or son, they are on the phone during the break either calling their daughter or son, and that’s the way in college or calling their wives and telling them all the ins and outs of what they’ve learned. And so, I think when there’s a relationship or they can identify personally, I believe that it gives them more of a push. The other aspect, I think, is when you’re working with law enforcement, there’s so much scrutiny, you know, especially now with the feeling that you know, some people really aren’t in support of them. And so, when you’re in fron...
The Freedom Fund is a global anti-slavery organization, that identifies and invests in the most impactful frontline organizations in areas with the highest prevalence of exploitation (both sex and labor trafficking).
The Freedom Fund invests in these organizations with funding from donors interested in directly supporting communities most impacted by modern slavery and with support in scaling these organizations and networking with one another to have an even deeper impact.
Being survivor-informed means being survivor-led. We need to make room for survivors in the fight against human trafficking.
A survivor may have many opportunities to better themselves; however, if we do not provide access, they are still going to be stuck in the same place.
Survivors are very much capable of leading and working in the anti-trafficking space, we just need to provide them access to the opportunities.
Resources
Freedom Fund
The Praxis Project
Amy Rahe’s Journey to the Freedom Fund
“Girls Like Us” by Rachel Lloyd
Survivor Alliance
Survivor Alliance Allies Training
Survivor Alliance list of Ally Actions
Survivor Engagement Resources
How to Ensure Survivors of Modern Slavery Stay Free by Amy Rahe
Unlocking what works: How community-based interventions are ending bonded labor in India by Freedom Fund
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, this is episode number 249, How to Include Survivors with Amy Rahe
Production Credits [00:00:10] Produced by Innovate Learning Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:30] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak
Sandie [00:00:36] and my name is Sandie Morgan,
Dave [00:00:39] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie, today, again, we have another friend and partner with us to help us to continue to get better at not only ending human trafficking but also serving those who are affected by it. I’m so glad to welcome to the show today. Amy Rahe. She is a leading voice on the need for survivors to be included in more meaningful ways within the antislavery movement through avenues such as employment and leadership. She joined the Freedom Fund in 2020 as director of North America, managing major partnerships and engagements and is an active part of the global management team. Amy is a passionate advocate for sustained liberation, pointing to the need for long-term support to survivors and working to dismantle the root causes that allow modern-day slavery to flourish. She describes herself as a storyteller, catalyst, and connection maker. Amy, we’re so glad to have you here on the show.
Amy [00:01:45] I’m so pleased to be here. Thank you so much for a warm introduction and welcome.
Sandie [00:01:50] So, Amy, I haven’t known you very long. I met you when you presented on a State Department webinar and you captured my heart when you really challenged people about providing scholarships for survivors. I’m at a university and this has been something I’ve struggled to do. But we have four recipients right now. And it’s just so empowering to hear other people talking about education as a transformation for survivors. So, I’m really just excited to learn more from you. And I think where I’d like to start is for us to hear a little bit about what Freedom Fund does.
Amy [00:02:45] Yeah, and that’s a wonderful place to start. Firstly, let me just say I’m so glad that we did get to connect after that webcast, that webinar. And I will say that a lot of people reached out after that comment about education because I think it’s such an important one. But I will digress from that moment and talk about the Freedom Fund. So, we’re a global anti-slavery organization. And what the Freedom Fund does is identify the most impactful frontline organizations and areas with the highest prevalence of slavery. And what we do is through identifying those frontline organizations that are having a high level of impact, we then invest in them and we invest in them with both funding and through support with scale be...
Melissa is dedicated to the advancement and integration of diverse voices to pioneer systemic change and co-create pathways of empowerment. Ms. Gomez is currently the acting Director of the Preventing and Addressing Child Trafficking Project for the Child and Family Policy Institute of California, in conjunction with the California Department of Social Services facilitating a statewide model of cross-coordination to strengthen child trafficking programs within child welfare agencies in California. The project serves to improve outcomes and services to children and youth who are impacted by sex and/or labor trafficking. Melissa resides in Marina on the Central Coast of California and is the proud mother of two amazing and creative boys.
Preventing and Addressing Child Trafficking (PACT), preventing and addressing child trafficking, was established in 2014, in relation to the Preventing Sex Trafficking and Strengthening Families Act.
PACT’s main goal is to address systemic issues concerning child welfare, the most effective strategy to fighting against these issues being collaboration.
PACT connects people, which connects resources to places they need to be to fight this battle.
There are forms of legal child labor; such as, a child 14 years old or older getting compensation for their work and working in an environment that is not harmful to their development. Any type of child labor that falls out of that definition is child exploitation and illegal.
Labor trafficking is still widely underreported and misunderstood.
According to the National Human Trafficking Hotline, in 38% of cases involving trafficked minors, the minor was trafficked by a family member or foster family.
It’s very important for everyone in the community to know the signs of human trafficking and look for them.
What is PACT?
Child and Family Policy Institute of California
CSEC
EHT Ep. 73 – Hidden Girl: The True Story of a Modern Child Slave – A Conversation With Shyima Hall
HTIAM-14 Human Trafficking Identification Questionnaire
233 – Bella Hounakey: A Fierce Survivor Advocate
PACT’s Child Welfare Response to Child Labor Trafficking in California is a research brief and accompanying Child Labor Trafficking Online Toolkit, which highlights a case study of ten child welfare agencies participating in the Preventing and Addressing Child Trafficking Project and their efforts to implement a comprehensive approach to child trafficking.
Child Labor Trafficking Desk Guide – Basic Awareness Guide for Child Welfare, Probation, and Partners.
Identifying and Responding to Child Labor Trafficking – Red Flags/Indicator Tool
California Service Provider Matrix
Covenant House HTIAM-14 Assessment – Validated Screening/Assessment Tool for Older Youth
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, this is episode number 248, Preventing and Addressing Child Trafficking – Sex and Labor.
Production Credits [00:00:11] Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:31] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandie [00:00:37] And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave [00:00:39] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking. Sandie, today we have a guest wit...
Dr. Sandie Morgan and Ben Skinner discuss the nonprofit Transparentem. Ben describes the role Transparentem plays in combating human trafficking and creating better opportunities for those being exploited. They discuss the standards that must be put in place to combat labor abuse in global supply chains.
Ben Skinner
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Resouces
Transparentem Website
Sweat and Toil App
A Crime So Monstrous
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast; this is episode number 247 Perspectives on Transformation in Labor Trafficking with Ben Skinner.
Production Credits [00:00:11] Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:31] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak
Sandie [00:00:37] And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave [00:00:39] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking, Sandie. Today we have with us someone who is an expert voice on human trafficking. They are going to help us in so many ways with perspective. And I’m really excited about this conversation. I’m so pleased to welcome Ben Skinner to our show today. He is the founder and principal of Transparentem to a nonprofit organization whose mission is to advance the well-being of workers and communities by exposing hard truths to those in power to transform industries. Previously, as a journalist, he reported on diverse topics from five continents, four Time, Newsweek, International Travel and Leisure, and others. His first book, A Crime So Monstrous, was awarded the two thousand nine Dayton Literary Prize for nonfiction, as well as a citation from the Overseas Press Club in its book category. For 2008, he was named An Adventure of the Year in 2008 by National Geographic Adventure. Ben, we’re so glad to welcome you to the show.
Ben [00:01:44] Thanks so much, Dave. Good to be with you and Sandie.
Sandie [00:01:46] All right. So, let’s dove in. I read a crime so monstrous a decade ago and then I pulled it out and read it again this year during January, National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month. And even in your early work, you were focused on why things were happening. And so, thinking about that, I have this sense that being an investigative journalist made your approach to this a little different. Can you tell us what it means to you to be an investigative journalist?
Ben [00:02:27] Sure. So, the first two principles of journalism, ethical principles are seek the truth and tell it and do no harm in the process. And the code of Ethics for the Society of Professional Journalists has a long list of ethical principles which we here at Transparentem to seek to adhere to when we build our own ethical code around that. But for me personally, it was extraordinarily important when we’re talking about survivors when we’re talking about those that are currently suffering from slavery, forced labor, human trafficking, that that do no harm principle is put forward very strongly. Everything that I’ve done as a journalist and everything that we do as an organization, we go to great, great lengths to not only seek the truth and tell it, but to make sure that what we’re doing makes the lives better. For those that we are writing that we are writing about, that we’re reporting on, and at the very least doesn’t make their life any worse.
Sandie [00:03:35] So, Ben, how does your book, A Crime So Monstrous, fit your perspective now more than a decade later?
Ben [00:03:44] It’s a very good question. And first of all, I appreciate you picking it up again. I’ve been doing the same not only in anticipation of this but to touch base with myself from ten years ago and to see what’s changed. I think fundamentally, the definitions remain. Slaves are those forced to work, held through fraud, under threat of violence for no pay beyond existence. In our work today, we use the term slavery sparingly. We talk much more about forced labor. We talk about human trafficking. And that’s primarily because we seek to engage with...
With a degree in Law Enforcement, a Master’s in Criminal Justice, and decades spent working in the child welfare and juvenile justice field, she is able to take readers behind the closed doors of a system the public seldom sees. She began her career as line staff in a juvenile detention center before moving to a job as a juvenile court probation officer. In her mid-twenties, she landed the position of director of a private youth-serving agency that operated a group home for status (runaways/truants) and public offender youth. While in this capacity, she obtained funding and housing to open a shelter facility for public offender boys who would otherwise have been placed in secure detention. Eventually, she moved into the Kentucky state government and helped develop a training curriculum for all of the state’s child welfare workers and community juvenile staff. A sought-after speaker, Vicki presented at numerous state and national conferences on juvenile justice and wrote a monthly article for the Kentucky Educational Collaborative for State Agency Children (KECSAC), dealing with behavior management of difficult youth in school settings.
Key Points
Vicki Reed is the author of the book The Car Thief, a fiction story about a child going through the juvenile justice system.
This story follows the main character, a kid named Kelly, on his journey through foster homes, courtrooms, and dealing with trauma.
This book has become a resource to educate people on the various topics and themes throughout the story.
Resources
Vicki Reed’s Website
Buy The Car Thief
The Car Thief Reviews
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast; this is episode number 246: Why You Should Read The Car Thief.
Production Credits [00:00:09] Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:30] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandie [00:00:36] And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave [00:00:38] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking, Sandie. Today we have a conversation with someone that’s a little different than we normally do. And yet I’m really excited for this conversation to discover more. Aren’t you?
Sandie [00:00:56] Oh, I can’t wait.
Dave [00:00:58] I am so glad to welcome Vicki Reed to our show. Vicki, after earning her bachelor’s degree in law enforcement and master’s degree in criminal justice, immersed herself in a successful, decades-long career in juvenile justice. She’s a sought-after speaker and is currently executive director of the Kentucky Juvenile Justice Initiative in Lexington, where she lives with her husband and son. And she’s also an author of a book. Vicki, we’re so glad to welcome you to the show.
Vicki [00:01:29] Thank you so much. I’m really excited to be here and I love the good work that you all do.
Sandie [00:01:34] Well, Vicki, we met at a conference for kids, and I knew right away we were kindred spirits. And you sent me your book, A Car Thief, and I read it in one weekend. And as I was reading it and Dave, you probably have this feeling because you read so much. I kept thinking of people I wanted to read it to because it’s so clearly illustrated a trauma-informed or an uninformed approach to communicating with young people. So, my first question for you, Vicki, I mean, you’re an expert in juvenile justice. Why did you write a fiction book?
Vicki [00:02:18] Well, I didn’t start out to actually, I didn’t start out to write any book. It wasn’t one of those people that said, oh, I want to write a book someday. But I am a voracious reader. I love to read. And I wanted to read about juvenile justice. But when I looked, you know, I really couldn’t find much out there, especially when it came to fiction that things that were there were very much inaccurate. And if you’re in the system, I guess it’s like a doctor who was reading a book about medical stuff. And if you say they didn’t sterilize the instruments or something, you’d be grimacing. So anyway, so I had Toni Morrison, who you’ve probably heard of, a famous author, said that if there’s a book you want to read that’s not out there, write it yourself. So, I decided I would write a nice little nonfiction and explain how kids get in the system and who they are and how traumas involved in that and so forth. And it really wasn’t going well. And about three o’clock in the morning, one night when I was trying to work on it, when I couldn’t sleep, it morphed to fiction and I felt much better. I was taking this hypothetical kid all through the system and basically Kelly, the kid in the story, he took over and he wrote the book from there.
Sandie [00:03:30] So, OK, so let’s talk a little bit about Kelly and some of the other characters. But don’t tell the ending. We don’t want a spoiler in our podcast. We want people to get the book and read it themselves. So, tell us about Kelly.
Vicki [00:03:50] Well, he starts off. He’s 12 years old and he has been involved in you know, he lived in Wyoming. He’s had some trauma in his life. And I don’t know that I wanted to do that. Should I tell what the trauma is?
Sandie [00:04:04] Yeah. Why don’t you start off by telling what his trauma is.
Vicki [00:04:07] OK, well, I’ll start off by saying that the book actually starts in the mi...
Katherine Chon
Katherine Chon is the founding director of the Office on Trafficking in Persons (OTIP) and senior advisor on human trafficking at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). OTIP is part of the HHS Administration for Children and Families, responsible for developing strategies and implementing programs to prevent trafficking, increase victim identification and access to services, and strengthen the health and well-being of survivors. OTIP also collaborates with government and non-government partners to raise public awareness, identify research priorities, and inform policy recommendations to strengthen the Nation’s public health response to human trafficking. As the director, Katherine leads the office and determines certification and eligibility for survivors of human trafficking who may be eligible for refugee benefits and services.
She is the federal executive officer of the National Advisory Committee on the Sex Trafficking of Children and Youth in the U.S. As senior advisor, Katherine serves on multiple committees under the Senior Policy Operating Group of the President’s Interagency Task Force to Monitor and Combat Trafficking in Persons. She serves on other related federal inter-agency working groups on violence against women, child exploitation, and Native American affairs. Prior to her government service in 2012, Katherine was the co-founder and President of Polaris, establishing the global organization’s innovative programs to assist survivors of human trafficking, expand anti-trafficking policies, and fundamentally change the way local communities respond to modern slavery.
Key Points
The Office on Trafficking in Persons (OTIP) fights against human trafficking in a unique way. They look at the issues impacting every aspect of human trafficking and attack many issues at the same time. They develop strategies and implement programs to prevent human trafficking, increase victim identification and access to services, and strengthen the health and well-being of survivors.
OTIP is creating a national human trafficking prevention framework and prevention action plan in order to connect efforts to combat human trafficking. They partnered with the CDC and other researchers to strengthen their prevention efforts.
Resources
Office on Trafficking in Persons
HHS Anti-Trafficking Efforts Highlighted in 2020 National Action Plan to Combat Human Trafficking
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Dave [00:00:00] You’re listening to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast, this is episode number 245, Health and Human Services OTIP Resources.
Production Credits [00:00:09] Produced by Innovate Learning, Maximizing Human Potential.
Dave [00:00:30] Welcome to the Ending Human Trafficking podcast. My name is Dave Stachowiak.
Sandie [00:00:36] And my name is Sandie Morgan.
Dave [00:00:38] And this is the show where we empower you to study the issues, be a voice, and make a difference in ending human trafficking, Sandie. I’m so glad to be back with you today. We are here to feature a wonderful partner and an organization that just does tremendous work on providing resources for all of us in our efforts to end human trafficking. We’re so glad to welcome to the show today, Katherine Chan. She is the founding director of the Office on Trafficking in Persons known as OTIP and Senior Advisor on Human Trafficking at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. OTIP is part of the HHS Administration for Children and Families responsible for developing strategies and implementing programs to prevent trafficking, increase victim identification and access to services, and strengthen the health and well-being of survivors. OTIP also collaborates with government and non-government partners to raise public awareness, identify research priorities and inform policy recommendations to strengthen the nation’s public health response to human trafficking. As the director, Katherine leads the office and determines certification and eligibility of survivors of human trafficking who may be eligible for refugee benefits and services. Katherine, we’re so glad to welcome you to the show.
Kathrine [00:01:58] Thank you for having me on. Good morning.
Sandie [00:02:01] I am so glad to have you back. You were an Ensure Justice conference keynote a few years ago and I’ve been in your office a few times when I’ve been out in Washington, D.C. and we always find common ground because of our collective passion for prevention. So, I’m excited to have you back today.
Kathrine [00:02:24] Thank you, Sandie. I think when I was at that Ensure Justice conference, the focus was on the intersection between human trafficking and substance use, which continues to be an issue impacting communities across the country. And the issue of human trafficking intersects with so many other issues that communities are facing. So, I’m glad to be on here and have this conversation with you and Dave.
Sandie [00:02:51] I so value what your office is doing. And the introduction that I gave Dave for you really focused ...
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