This is the 5th episode of a five-part series on The Daily Coffee Pro by Map It Forward Podcast, hosted by Map It Forward founder, Lee Safar.

The guest on this podcast series is Antonie Fountain, managing director and co-founder of VOICE Network (cocoa) and VOCAL Alliance (coffee).

In this series, Lee and Antonie explore the state of the cocoa industry, paying particular attention to the impact recent price spikes are having on producers and the sustainability of the market at large.

In this insightful episode of The Daily Coffee Pro by Map It Forward, Lee and Antonie discuss the rapid shift from voluntary to mandatory sustainability practices in the coffee and cocoa industries.

They explore how these changes are driven by new EU regulations, such as the European Union Deforestation Regulation (EUDR) and Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive, requiring companies to ensure their products meet stringent environmental and human rights standards.

Antonie explains the challenges corporations face in adapting to these regulations and how it affects smallholders.

The conversation also delves into the role of billionaires, government regulations, and the potential impact on global supply chains.

This episode provides valuable insights into the evolving landscape of sustainability and its implications for the future of coffee and cacao production.

00:00 The Urgency of Sustainability

00:45 Sponsor Message: Map It Forward Workshop

01:23 Introduction to the Series

01:35 The Role of Billionaires in Supply Chains

02:49 EU Deforestation Regulation (EUDR)

03:59 Voluntary vs. Mandatory Sustainability

04:31 Historical Context of Deregulation

04:51 Corporate Challenges in Sustainability

06:18 The Push for Mandatory Regulations

08:04 Corporate Accountability and Compliance

10:25 Impact on Smallholders and Producers

16:28 Child Labor Laws and Misconceptions

22:17 Future of Coffee and Cacao Markets

26:21 Conclusion and Contact Information

Connect with Antonie Fountain and Voice Network here:

https://www.voicenetwork.cc

https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonie/

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