Crabb pretty much doesn't get a word in edgewise as Sales bangs on about her latest obsession, a podcast dissecting what makes some famous songs work so well.

(2:10) Strong Songs Podcast
(4:30) Hamish and Andy Podcast
(12:00) Yellow Notebook by Helen Garner
(13:20) Blink by Malcolm Gladwell
(17:30) Cheer docuseries on Netflix
(20:00) New Yorker Article 'The Pathos Of "Cheer" And The Wild Deceptions Of Cheerleading' by Jia Tolentino
(20:00) Vogue article on Cheer coach Monica Aldama 'The Best Twitter Reactions About Coach Monica from Netflix's Cheer' EMMA by Emma Specter vogue.com
(22:10) Friday Night Lights TV show
(23:10) Sex Education on Netflix
(24:40) Bruny by Heather Rose
(24:50) New York Times Best Thrillers of 2019 by Vanessa Freidman
(25:00) The Guardians by John Grisham
(25:20) The Overstory by Richard Powers
(26:20) Girl Woman Other by Bernardine Evaristo
(26:40) Miss Americana - Taylor Swift Netflix Documentary
(26:45) Dear Mr You by Mary-Louise Parker

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