Sit down with Kari Jobe and Cody Carnes, worship leaders and GRAMMY-nominated singer-songwriters, for a conversation on Cody's newest album Firm Foundation, the songwriting process, and how to worship during difficult times.

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0:00 Cody and Kari's most recent tour

5:21 Their European tour

9:35 The flag moment at Vous 

11:08 The original story of the flag

17:20 Cody's new album

22:40 The process of writing firm foundation

32:00 How to praise during hard times

43:00 How Cody and Kari recharge