Ed Ford is a Marine Recon veteran and Alan Chaisson is a veteran Navy Corpsman. Both men decided to try private military contracting during the Global War on Terror. Now, they join us to discuss their careers and their new book Pony Express about logistics runs in some of the most dangerous parts of the world.

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00:00:00 Intro
00:00:54 Ed's Recon Background
00:05:08 Al's Navy Corpsman / Paramedic Background
00:08:38 Post-Vietnam Military
00:12:56 Infantry in the 80s
00:16:04 The Marines Took His Left Nut
00:20:20 Beirut Bombing
00:23:20 Peacetime Military / Zero Defect Mentality
00:27:12 Recon Indoc
00:35:30 Recon Missions in Iraq
00:39:45 Alan Leaves the Navy for the Fire Service
00:43:38 Immigrating to the US
00:49:02 Become a Fire Fighter
00:52:37 Becoming a Private Military Contractor
01:04:01 Contractor Training
01:05:36 Weapons Carried by Contractors
01:10:18 The Most Dangerous Areas
01:16:35 Careful What You Wish For
01:20:59 Taliban Punish Their Own