Heidi and Ellen talk to Lindsey and Melissa. Lindsey is building a business with a partner. They have done a successful soft launch and are wondering if this is a good time to raise money from investors or whether to keep growing the business on their own. Melissa has been involved in the public health sector for the last decade. She is curious whether to focus the next stage of her career out in the public eye, to continue working behind the scenes or to try something totally new. Heidi and Ellen also talk about the Netflix show ‘Shadow and Bone’ and the podcast interviews between the chef Samin Nosrat and Brene Brown on Brene’s podcast ‘Unlocking Us’ and Glennon Doyle and Adam Grant on Adam’s podcast ‘WorkLife’.