Heidi and Ellen interview two Taurus 'twins' born on the same day, almost 30 years apart. Maya just graduated from college this past June. Andrew wants to bring his fitness business online. We talk about how hard it is to look for your first job in the middle of a pandemic and what you can do to create community and what it takes to build an online audience. We also talk about Pico Iyer's book- 'The Art of Stillness; Adventures in Going Nowhere'.