You're The Voice | by Efrat Fenigson

Ep. 20: Max Keiser & Stacy Herbert - Bitcoin, Liberty & Hope


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My guests today are Max Keiser & Stacy Herbert, Bitcoin OGs and advisors to president Nayib Bukele in El Salvador, leading various initiatives.

Stacy is also known as the “Fairy godmother”, she’s a broadcaster, writer, and producer, and co-hosting, with lots of grace, wit and sharpness, the “Orange Pill” podcast with Max and formerly co-hosting "The Keiser Report". 

Max is a broadcaster, filmmaker, and financial analyst, Wikipedia has: “known for his outspoken views on economics and finance”, and I’ll translate that to “badass, funny and sharp human”. Max began his career on Wall Street before transitioning to media. 

In this episode we discuss the Bitcoin movement and its impact on El Salvador and the world. Max & Stacey share what life in El Salvador is like these days with Bukele’s new policies, economic growth, and the organic growth of the Bitcoin community. We touched on Bitcoin, Gold, and CBDCs, and how Bitcoin is a true instrument of freedom and sovereignty. We also explored the risks of institutional involvement in Bitcoin, ETFs, and possible price manipulations. 


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My takeaways

  • Bitcoin has the potential to empower individuals in totalitarian regimes and Western democracies alike.

  • Bitcoin's value goes beyond its price and technology, offering a new way of thinking about money and human potential.

  • The organic growth of the Bitcoin community and its resistance to manipulation are amongst its key strengths.

  • El Salvador is leading the way in adopting Bitcoin as a national currency and building projects and initiatives around it.


  • 00:00 - Coming Up in this Episode

    00:40 - Introduction

    03:10 - Renaissance 2.0 - Building in El Salvador

    08:10 - End of Fiat Era in Totalitarian Regimes & Western Democracies

    11:30 - El Salvador’s Monetary & Economic Changes, Immigration 

    14:40 - Can We See a “Fourth Turning” Under the Bitcoin Standard? 

    19:40 - Bitcoin’s Philosophy, Paradigm Shift, spirituality

    21:40 - Bitcoin's Organic Growth

    25:20 - Bitcoin vs CBDCs in Western Democracies

    30:20 - Bitcoin as an Asset Class, Price Manipulations Like in Gold Markets

    36:00 - Risks in Wall Street and Institutional Involvement

    37:00 - Delivery of Assets: Oil, Gold & Bitcoin 

    40:00 - Bitcoin Conferences & Good Times in El Salvador

    43:00 - Message of Hope

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