Back in May 2026 I’ve been interviewed by Jeremy Almond, CEO of PayStand, on his podcast “reDeFind”. In his words:

“In this episode, Jeremy sits down with Efrat Fenigson, host of the "You’re The Voice" podcast and former tech marketing executive, to explore the shift from corporate tech to Bitcoin advocacy driven by concerns about freedom and monetary sovereignty. The conversation covers Efrat's journey from software development in video games to CMO roles, and how COVID-19's state control sparked her deep dive into sound money and Bitcoin.
They discuss the critical differences between CBDCs, stablecoins, and Bitcoin, examining how central bank digital currencies use programmable features like geolocation tracking, expiration dates, and spending quotas that mirror systems in China, Russia, and Nigeria, despite being marketed as convenient innovations in countries like Ireland. The discussion also explores real-world CBDC pilots, the nuanced role of stablecoins as bridge technology with both benefits and limitations, and why Bitcoin represents true permissionless money that restores individual sovereignty.
This conversation offers insights into the regulatory attacks on privacy tools like Samurai Wallet, the essential nature of financial privacy as a human right, and how these developments shape the future of freedom and innovation in an increasingly digital world.”

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LINKS

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CHAPTERS

00:00 Coming Up…
01:17 Introduction to Efrat Fenigson
02:14 Tech Background and Marketing Career
08:17 COVID-19 and Bitcoin Discovery
13:02 CBDCs and Digital Surveillance
24:59 Bitcoin, Stablecoins, and Freedom Money
34:04 Digital Money Education
38:28 Privacy Tools and Prosecution
43:44 Efrat's Work and Platforms

I never thought I’d go through an intimate therapy session on my podcast… and I just did…!

Helena Andrejko is a wise therapist, anthropologist and writer whose work examines how the architecture of monetary systems, fiat and Bitcoin alike, shapes human perception, behaviour and our sense of sovereignty. Born in the Czech Republic and raised under communism, she lives in Sydney, Australia where she practises as a therapist specialising in trauma. We discuss her recent keynote, "Bitcoin Cures Stockholm Syndrome", which analyzes the monetary system and maps the symptoms of an abusive relationship directly onto fiat. We also dive deep into trust, decentralizing the mind, and Helena’s upcoming new book. Enjoy this highly thought-provoking, raw and real dialogue.

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LINKS

Helena on X: https://x.com/MindTheBlock21 

Helena on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/3tv9x4vk 

Helena on Substack: https://mindtheblock.substack.com/ 

Helena’s book waitlist: https://whatismoney.xyz/ 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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CHAPTERS 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:52 - Introduction: Helena Andrejko

05:07 - Helena's Talk: "Bitcoin Cures Stockholm Syndrome"

08:51 - CBDCs: Control Built Into the Money Itself

12:47 - Losing Sensitivity to Boundaries

13:37 - How Fiat Stockholm Syndrome Works

15:09 - Ad-Break: Expat Money & Ledn

17:25 - Efrat's Covid Awakening: the Price of Resistance

24:26 - Red Flags of Abuse, Found in the Fiat System

29:24 - Regression After "Waking Up"

32:28 - Efrat as a Rage Prophet & Her Self Discovery Journey

40:57 - Ad-Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

42:42 - The State as Parent, the Citizen as Child

43:21 - Change Requires Pain, Illusion of Democracy

47:48 - Money as "State Permission Slips"

54:36 - Trust & Distrust

01:05:07 - Decentralizing the Mind

01:11:57 - Helena's New Book: Trust, Fiat, and Bitcoin

01:14:00 - Growing Up Under Communism & Life in Australia

01:19:44 - What Gives Helena Hope?

01:26:16 - Where to Find Helena

I’ve been interviewed this week by Bernardo Braga from Brazil on his podcast. In his words:

“Bitcoin doesn't need to be destroyed to lose the war. If people give up self-custody and agree to exchange Bitcoin for pieces of Wall Street paper, defeat has already begun.In this conversation, Efrat Fenigson and I talked about Bitcoin Core, Michael Saylor, stablecoins, and the risk of Bitcoin becoming another piece of the fiat system.She also shares how the pandemic turned her life upside down and why she turned down a larger sponsorship offer from Coinkite before the Coldcard debacle.”

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LINKS

Bernardo on X: https://x.com/eubernardobraga  

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

Efrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigson

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CHAPTERS 

00:00 Highlights

01:35 Who is Efrat Fenigson?

05:26 How the pandemic awakened Efrat

09:07 The fiat system as modern slavery

13:07 BIP-110, Bitcoin Knots and Bitcoin Core

14:46 Ledn's message

16:05 Is Bitcoin Core being co-opted?

19:35 Who funds developers?

25:19 Wall Street, BlackRock and the Attack on Bitcoin

26:44 Self-custody and vulnerable points

30:00 The responsibility of Bitcoiners

33:58 Ideology and values within Bitcoin Core

42:02 What happened to Michael Saylor?

47:08 Stablecoins: the new digital money

49:48 Fiat on steroids

56:32 The future of free communities

01:02:57 A protocol of sovereignty for your life

01:10:27 How Efrat Became a Freedom Activist

01:13:21 Democracy, corruption and political theater

01:17:22 Coldcard, Coinkite and the rejected proposal

Dr. Jessica Rose is a computational biologist, immunologist and independent data analyst with five post-secondary degrees, known for her rigorous analysis of the VAERS database since 2021 and for presenting her findings internationally. Three years after her first appearance on this show, Jessica returns to talk about what has changed, why she believes C19 mRNA gene therapy is likely carcinogenic and is the CBDC of Pharma: a dangerous technology nobody consented to, delivered by coercive institutions. 

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LINKS

Jessica on X: https://x.com/JesslovesMJK 

Jessica on Substack: https://jessicar.substack.com/ 

Jessica’s first episode on You’re The Voice: https://tinyurl.com/4a45jfsd 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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CHAPTERS 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:31 - Introduction: Dr. Jessica Rose

03:25 - Three Years On: What Changed and What Did Not

05:30 - DNA Contamination Papers and Debunking the Debunk

07:36 - Informing Gov. Health Agencies with Serious Risks

09:27 - Why This Was Never a Conventional Vaccine

13:28 - mRNA Technology Has Been Normalized

15:16 - Ad Break: Expat Money & Ledn

17:34 - Have We Changed Human Biology Forever?

19:48 - Transhumanism, Hijacking Genetics & Mind Control

21:10 - Cancers Due to the Covid19 Injections

23:05 - Jessica's Work Reaching Far & Wide

26:41 - Why the Health Freedom Movement Resists Bitcoin

27:38 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

32:56 - Fiat as the Top System, All Other Systems Downstream

35:39 - Digital ID, CBDC, AI, Biometrics

37:55 - Samourai Case & Locking Up Freedom Fighters

40:14 - Skynet Danger: AI, Facial Recognition

41:59 - When Did Bitcoin Click for Jessica

49:22 - Jessica Researching Bitcoin Mining & Energy

52:39 - Systems Thinking as the Missing Piece

59:37 - What Gives Jessica Hope?

Freddie New is a lawyer turned Bitcoin executive, CEO and co-founder of B HODL, a Bitcoin treasury and Lightning services company, and co-founder of Bitcoin Policy UK. He grew up in Zimbabwe, a country that has cycled through five currencies in his lifetime, and he took from it a lasting impression of lawyers and judges as the people who stand up hardest against government overreach. In this conversation Freddie unpacks what is behind the UK’s child safety framing of internet age gating, why 12,000 people were jailed over social media posts, how banks create money, why he thinks large scale currency collapse is where the debt story ends, and his view on bitcoin as Digital Credit.

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LINKS

Freddie on X: https://x.com/freddienew 

Freddie on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/4s7my67h B HODL’S website: https://t.co/nRDU4uVSfa 

Freddie’s Privacy Guide: https://tinyurl.com/muedcpsy 

Freddie’s recommendation - A Not Too Technical Overview of This Bitcoin Thing: https://armantheparman.com/bitcoin-english/ 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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CHAPTERS 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:42 - How Freddie & Efrat Met

03:41 - Introduction: Freddie New B HODL, Bitcoin Policy UK and a Lawyer's

07:05 - Scanning Every Device in the UK and Child Safety Pretext

09:22 - Digital ID: Centralised Honeypot of Personal Data

11:39 - Ad-Break: Expat Money & Ledn

13:54 - Why Freddie Cares: Orwell, Huxley & the Duty to Act

15:57 - If the Protocol Needs No Permission, Why Does Policy Matter?

19:39 - Why Is Control Tightening in the UK

28:00 - How Is Money Created & Why Currencies Collapse

31:16 - Why Digital Privacy Matters

36:51 - Lightning as a Business: B HODL

43:43 - Ad-Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

45:30 - Bitcoin Backed Credit vs Bitcoin as Money

51:26 - Where Is The UK Heading, With Bitcoin & In General

55:26 - For Brits Still Afraid of Bitcoin

58:03 - Banning Bitcoin Means Banning Speech, Thought & Math

59:01 - Freddie's Bitcoin Journey

01:00:19 - Don't Give Up Hope

* This episode was recorded in May 2026, before the BIP110 activation

Luke de Wolf, industrial cybersecurity expert and author of “Defending Bitcoin”, applies critical infrastructure security frameworks to Bitcoin itself. We dig into the network's real risks and vulnerabilities: arbitrary data, Bitcoin Core's governance structure, and the Core vs. Knots split. Luke’s argument: Bitcoin has weathered this so far, but complacency is the one risk it can't afford.

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– LINKS –

Luke’s new book & website: https://defendingbitcoin.com/ 

Luke on X: https://x.com/lukedewolf Luke on Nostr: https://primal.net/luke 

Luke’s previous episode on my pod: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCE1uPqn0P8 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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– CHAPTERS – 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:14 - Introduction: Luke de Wolf

06:23 - Critical Infrastructure & Payment Infrastructure

10:29 - Ad-Break: Expat Money & Ledn

12:51 - Cybersecurity as a Framework for Digital Risk

15:51 - The Structure of Luke's Book "Defending Bitcoin"

17:18 - How Do We Keep Bitcoin Secure?

18:48 - Threats to the Network: Nodes, Miners, Developers

19:51 - Mining Centralization Risk & Examples

25:05 - The Case For Remote and Solo Mining and Hashing

27:41 - The ASIC Supply Chain and Security Risks

31:18 - Devs: Bitcoin Core Governance Structure & Risks

33:06 - Arbitrary Data - Context & History

36:28 - Spam, Proof of Work and Bitcoin's Availability

39:18 - Taproot's Vulnerabilities Making Bitcoin Less Usable As Money

46:40 - Core v30, OP_RETURN and Migration to Knots

47:58 - Rough Consensus and the Five Maintainers

50:24 - Ad-Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

52:16 - The Brink Pipeline and Nominating Your Own Successor

54:46 - Participation in the Protocol and Why Adoption Matters

01:00:18 - Why Luke Wrote This Book

MADEX is an internationally renowned artist, designer and creative director from Alberta, Canada. He built the Bull Bitcoin brand alongside Francis Pouliot, and runs MADEX, a fine art, jewelry and regalia project he describes as a freedom project. In this rare conversation, MADEX explains why art has been captured as a vehicle for collectivist ideas and how he is pushing the opposite, what his three pillars of freedom are, why he refuses to put the Bitcoin ₿ on anything he makes, and why everyone should have children.

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– LINKS –

MADEX on Nostr: https://primal.net/madex MADEX on X: https://x.com/spacebull 

MADEX art: https://madex.art/ 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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– CHAPTERS – 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:33 - Introduction: MADEX

05:28 - Why MADEX Is a Freedom Project

08:41 - Judge a Society by How It Treats Its Entrepreneurs

09:32 - Ad-Break: Expat Money & Ledn

13:01 - Why American Pickup Trucks Keep Getting Bigger

17:56 - Fiat & Global Agendas Influencing Companies & Brands

20:03 - Madex' Childhood in Alberta, Building Toys

24:35 - The Three Pillars of Freedom: Transact, Defend, Communicate

27:48 - No Compromise on Quality & Great Products

32:35 - Bitcoin as a Patron of Arts

38:40 - AI, Creativity & Divine Connection

42:14 - Ad-Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

44:03 - Beyond the "B" in Bitcoin Art

50:55 - "MADEX Manifesto" Film and a Future One

55:55 - Value Has to Be Created Before It Can Be Stolen

59:34 - What Makes MADEX Bullish

1:05:27 - Free Your Mind & Soul

1:11:28 - "MADEX Manifesto" Short Film

*Note that this episode was recorded before the coldcard hack.

Ben Perrin is a Canadian Bitcoin educator and the creator of BTC Sessions, the world's longest running Bitcoin only educational channel, with tens of millions of views since 2016. Together, we discuss what bitcoin is shaping up to be, Ben's three YouTube deletions, the Canadian trucker protest, state censorship, self custody mistakes that could cost families their inheritance, and the new Sovereign Sessions channel launching this month. We close with a rapid audience Q&A on BIP 110, wallets, silent payments, and more.

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– LINKS –

Ben on X: https://x.com/BTCsessions Ben on Nostr: https://primal.net/btcsessions Ben on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@BTCSessions 

New Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@SovereignSessions Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

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– CHAPTERS – 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:36 - Introduction: Ben Perrin (BTC Sessions)

04:38 - Ten Years Milestone for BTC Sessions

08:06 - Launching Sovereign Sessions

11:23 - Ad Break: Expat Money & Ledn

13:45 - Digital ID, Censorship & Freedom Tech

17:00 - Where Beginners Should Start Learning Bitcoin

18:26 - Canada, Carney & the Truckers Protest

29:12 - BTC Sessions' YouTube Deletion

32:30 - Censorship & Going Beyond YouTube

35:43 - Self-Custody Mistakes & Inheritance Planning

39:18 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

41:43 - What is Bitcoin Shaping Up To Be?

45:43 - Audience Q's: BIP110

49:29 - Being an Influencer

52:43 - Silent Payments, Favorite Wallets (BULL, Alby, Phoenix)

54:35 - Privacy on Bitcoin

56:02 - Why Is Ben Bullish

Tomáš Sušánka is the CTO of Trezor, where he has worked since 2017. Tomáš joins Efrat for an urgent, unscripted conversation days after the Cold Card hardware wallet hack, in which a flawed random number generator left seed phrases vulnerable and resulted in more than 1,500 bitcoin stolen from affected users. Drawing on questions submitted directly by the Bitcoin community, Tomáš walks through what entropy actually is, how Trezor's own four-source random number generation works, why open-source visibility alone does not guarantee security, and what practical steps everyday self-custody users can take to reduce how much they have to trust any single piece of hardware. 

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– LINKS –

Tomáš on X: https://x.com/tsusanka

Tomáš on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tsusanka/

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

Efrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigson

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– CHAPTERS – 

00:00 - Introduction: Tomáš Sušánka, Trezor CTO

02:39 - What Happened with Cold Card: How Trezor Received the News

09:17 - Origins of Cold Card: Forks, Licensing, and the Bitcoin-Only Split

13:40 - Open Source vs. Source-Available: How the Bug Went Undetected for Five Years

20:20 - Trezor's Response: Security Reviews and R&D Changes Since the Incident

22:24 - How Trezor Generates Randomness: The Four Entropy Sources

23:29 - Dice Rolling for Seed Generation: Necessary?

28:30 - Reducing Trust: Practical Verification Steps 

31:09 - Single Device vs. Multisig

32:45 - BTC Sessions Clip: Ben and Nathan on Air-Gapped Wallets

34:29 - Tomáš's Take: Why Air-Gapping Isn't What People Think

39:49 - How Trezor's Design Differs from Cold Card's

42:32 - 2026 Secure Element Laser Fault Injection Finding

47:46 - Responsible Disclosure: Trezor's Protocol for Reporting Vulnerabilities

49:29 - The Biggest Risks Facing Bitcoin Right Now

51:01 - Short-Term Damage vs. Long-Term Lessons for the Community

55:27 - Trezor Model One's 12th Anniversary and the Evolution of Hardware Wallets

57:57 - Closing Thoughts and a Call for Continued Security Research

Paul Rosenberg is a cypherpunk author and cryptography advocate who has been in the movement since finding the original cypherpunk circles in 1995. Cryptography pioneer, author of 80 books, multiple newsletters, co-founder of Cryptohippie. He wrote A Lodging of Wayfaring Men, often called the Cypherpunks Bible, imagining a parallel society built on encryption and voluntary trade, years before Bitcoin existed. He also sat in the courtroom for Ross Ulbricht's trial. This conversation is one of my favorites: an 11-year-old prediction about Bitcoin as the next reserve currency, his eyewitness account of the Ulbricht trial, cryptography's fight against US export restrictions in the '90s, and why fear is a deliberate brain hack. Paul is one of the wisest people I've had on this show, listen and you'll see why.

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– SPONSORS –

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→ Access liquidity without selling your Bitcoin with Ledn, get 0.25% off your first loan: https://ledn.io/Efrat    

→ Get your TREZOR wallet & accessories, with a 5% discount, using my code at checkout (get my discount code from the episode - yep, you’ll have to watch it): https://affil.trezor.io/SHUn

→ Have you tried mining bitcoin? Stack sats directly to your wallet while saving on taxes with Abundant Mines: https://AbundantMines.com/Efrat - Claim your free month of hosting via this link

– AFFILIATES –

→ Get 15% off “Born To Be Free” all-natural, tallow-based skincare products on a bitcoin standard, using code EFRAT: https://oshi.link/1nvZYq  

→ Join me in these upcoming events & use code EFRAT for discounted tickets: https://www.efrat.blog/p/upcoming-events

→ Get 10% off on Augmented NAC to detox Spike protein, with the code YCXKQDK2 via this link: https://store.augmentednac.com/?via=efrat (This is not medical advice, please consult your MD)

→ Watch “New Totalitarian Order” conference with Prof. Mattias Desmet & Efrat - code EFRAT for 10% off: https://efenigson.gumroad.com/l/desmet_efrat

– LINKS –

Paul’s Newsletters: https://substack.com/@veraverba 

Paul on Nostr: https://tinyurl.com/5n7rfkff 

“A Lodging of Wayfaring Men” free audiobook: https://towardsliberty.com/audiobooks/lodging 

Efrat’s X: https://twitter.com/efenigson

Efrat’s Channels: https://linktr.ee/efenigson

Watch on all platforms: https://linktr.ee/yourethevoice

Support Efrat’s work: ⁠https://bit.ly/zap_efrat

– CHAPTERS – 

00:00 - Coming Up...

01:48 - Introduction: Paul Rosenberg at BTC Prague

04:11 - Revisiting Paul's 11-Year-Old Prediction: Bitcoin as the Next Reserve Currency

11:24 - Crossing the Threshold: What Was Bitcoin's Hardest Part

11:31 - Ad Break: Expat Money & Ledn

13:57 - From Chokepoint to Trump Freeing Ross Ulbricht

17:17 - Inside the Ross Ulbricht Trial: A Political Prosecution

22:19 - The Samourai Wallet Case

24:03 - Cypherpunk Origins: Cryptography, Encryption, and the 90s Underground

30:01 - The Surveillance State, The Role of Big Tech, Google, Apple, And a Way Out

36:09 - Where AI's Going & Can It Be Decentralized?

39:46 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

41:35 - "A Lodging of Wayfaring Men": Free Markets, Parallel Economy Built on Encryption & Voluntary Trade

44:48 - Rebuilding Society on the Golden Rule, Recognize Fear Is a Hack

49:38 - Covid as Mass Formation: "A Crime of Global Proportions"

54:32 - Keynote Preview: "Bitcoin Is Still Bigger Than You Think It Is"

59:46 - What Gives Paul Hope