Agustin Kassis is a Bitcoin developer, entrepreneur, and founder of La Crypta in Buenos Aires, Argentina. As a self-taught programmer since age 11 and serial entrepreneur with seven startups, Agustin discovered Bitcoin in its first years. This conversation explores Argentina's unique position as a potential Bitcoin adoption leader, shaped by decades of currency destruction, hyperinflation, and distrust of government institutions.

We dive deep into the grassroots Bitcoin movement in Argentina, the role of La Crypta as an education and community hub, and how Argentinians' natural rebellion against monetary systems creates fertile ground for Bitcoin adoption. Agustin discusses the challenges of onboarding merchants and individuals, the competition with the crypto industry (including stablecoins), and the importance of maintaining Bitcoin's decentralized nature against capture. We also explore President Milei's impact on Argentina, the cultural shift happening in the country, and why he believes ideology and values matter more than technical knowledge & NGU when identifying true Bitcoiners.

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• 00:00 - Coming Up

• 01:53 - Introduction of Augustin Kassis

• 03:30 - Argentinian’s Currency Failure History 

• 07:42 - Finding Bitcoin & Entrepreneurship 

• 10:35 - Programming Languages & Technology’s Role Today

• 16:00 - What Makes Someone a True Bitcoiner?

• 19:46 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

• 23:00 - Starting a Bitcoin Exchange

• 26:00 - Onboarding People to Bitcoin

• 32:11 - La Crypta's Mission: Education Through Experience

• 38:30 - Milei & Argentina's Transformation

• 43:00 - Black Markets, Cash & Dollar Stablecoins

• 46:51 - Ad Break: ExpatMoney & New Totalitarian Order Conference

• 49:40 - Being a Rebel & Milei Fan Simultaneously

• 58:00 - Argentina's Economic Stabilization & Future

• 01:01:20 - Understand Tech & Support Others 

• 01:05:15 - What Drives Augustine?

• 01:07:02 - Walk the Talk: Eat What You Cook

Jeff Booth is a General Partner at Ego Death Capital and the author of The Price of Tomorrow,  known for his profound insights at the intersection of technology, economics, and human consciousness. This conversation explains how the existing monetary (fiat) system relies on debt, fear, and illusion to survive, and why it’s now unraveling under its own weight. Jeff explains why Michael Saylor’s current position is very different than his initial one, and why it isn’t sustainable.

We dive deep into the different types of control vectors governing our life, from money to politics to physics, and explore how consciousness shifts and Bitcoin challenges these structures at a fundamental level. Jeff talks about decentralization, the role of fear and agency, and why the free market has never truly existed — until now.  We also touch on spirituality, the deeper meaning of sovereignty, and the transformative potential of Bitcoin not as an asset, but as a protocol for freedom.

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01:23 - Welcome & Intro of Jeff Booth

07:12 - Systems of Control vs. Freedom

15:35 - The Illusion of Democracy

16:45 - Challenges to Human Action

21:55 - Is Bitcoin Integrated Into Existing Systems?

23:25 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

29:55 - From Asset to Protocol: Rethinking Bitcoin

38:25 - How Are We Doing With Keeping Bitcoin Decentralized & Secure?

41:25 - We'll See an Explosion of Privacy Tech & Tools

52:15 - How Will The Global Economy Be Influenced If All Is Connected?

1:01:02 - Ad Break

1:09:55 - Bitcoin and Quantum Physics - New Paper

1:12:55 - Meeting Bukele & El Salvador Visit

1:21:26 - Polarized Society, Violence, Destruction & What Do People Want

1:28:45 - Audience Questions: 1) Why So Little Funding to Bitcoin Companies?

1:37:35 - 2) Marketing vs. Advertising vs. Value Creation

1:41:05 - 3) Biggest Challenge Bitcoiners Face Today?

1:44:40 - 4) Is The Halving Cycle Broken?

1:46:25 - 5) Why Did Jeff Move to Miami?

1:47:45 - 6) Who Should Be Orange Pilled?

1:50:05 - Jeff's View On Saylor's Journey Into Bitcoin

1:52:35 - Jeff's Habits & Productivity Hacks

1:55:55 - What Gives Jeff Hope?

Free speech is under fire — especially in the realms of health, money, and power. In this BTC Prague 2025 panel, Efrat Fenigson moderates a conversation with Dr. Jack Kruse, Dr. Alexis Cowan, Kevin McKernan, and Tristan Scott on modern censorship and how Bitcoiners are pushing back.

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This was the most powerful panel I ever moderated. Do yourself a favor and listen in, and it does NOT matter if you're in Bitcoin or not. If you care about freedom, free speech, decentralization of power, and living a healthy sovereign life, just listen.

Big kudos to BTC Prague for being so open minded and freedom oriented to welcome this topic and our voices on stage.

This sharp panel was with Dr. Jack Kruse, Dr. Alexis Jazmyn, Kevin McKernan, and Tristan Scott (Daylight Computers). Dr. Jessica Rose was supposed to be there on stage with us and couldn’t.

Let me know what you thought in the comments!

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My guest today is Dr. Alexis Cowan, PhD,, a Princeton-trained molecular biologist specializing in metabolism, mitochondrial function, and circadian biology. We talk about why modern science has drifted into scientism, how mitochondrial dysfunction sits at the root of nearly every chronic disease, and why reclaiming sovereignty over your health is both radical and necessary. We dive deep into light biology, circadian rhythms, sun exposure, quantum biology, and the incentives that shape (and distort) modern medicine. We also explore Alexis’ personal health journey, her break from academia, her work with Jack Kruse’s ideas, and how Bitcoin, self-custody, and proof-of-work thinking mirror biological truth.

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00:00 – Coming up.. 

01:40 - Intro to Dr. Alexis Cowan

05:05 - Why is Alexis dancing? 

08:30 - Biology & health in the spiritual, divinity lense

10:15 - Why did Alexis chose medical & biology route

16:35 – Mitochondria, ATP & how energy actually works

26:30 - Why modern science isn’t focused on Mitochondria?

32:43 – Ad Break – Trezor & Abundant Mines

34:49 – How light regulates biology: circadian signaling & daily habits

40:37 – Blue light + UV fear: the “block UV at all costs” narrative

45:41 – Melanin, skin tone, sunlight, & artificial lights 

59:40 - Skin cancer & the sun’s benefits

1:03:36 – Get a tan to reduce nnEMF / Wireless / 5G radiation!

1:07:37 – Mitochondria’s health, Transhumanism and nnEMF damages  

1:19:09 – Ad Break – Expat Money & New Totalitarian Order (Mattias Desmet)

1:20:55 - Grounding benefits

1:24:49 – Where should we live geographically?

1:29:00 – Overcast & geoengineered skies impact on light therapy 

1:34:30 – Adverse reactions & cancer post C jabs

1:40:40 - Prepare your body to travel & flights

1:44:40 – Tips for trauma, anti-depression and stress

1:56:05 - The vision for decentralized science & health 

2:04:30 – The education system problems & Alexis’ suggestions

2:08:30 - Bitcoiners, incentives & sovereignty

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From open‑source privacy pioneer to federal inmate, Keonne Rodriguez, the mind behind Samourai Wallet, sits down to explain why the DOJ’s “regulation‑by‑prosecution” saga matters to every crypto user, developer, and civil‑rights advocate. This episode was broadcasted LIVE on Tuesday, Dec. 16th 2025, 10am EST.

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My guest today is Aaron Murphy, founder of MurphsLife Foundation, a storyteller and builder working across Latin America to turn direct aid into long-term, dignity-first systems. We sit down in El Salvador’s National Palace to talk about what happens when you hit rock bottom—and choose responsibility, faith, and service instead of collapse. Murph shares his journey from addiction, debt, panic attacks, and near-death experiences to building villages, farms, and regenerative communities that have already impacted tens of thousands of people. We talk about why life doesn’t get easier—you simply choose which kind of “hard” you’re willing to live with—and why real sovereignty starts with food, land, shelter, and low time preference. We explore inflation, the fragility of the dollar system, and why Bitcoin matters not as speculation, but as intergenerational infrastructure for families who currently live in survival mode. Murph explains his vision for using Bitcoin to help entire villages escape poverty—not through handouts, but through ownership, education, and long-term incentives. Finally, we go deep into faith, suffering, fasting, and the idea that meaning comes from choosing a mission larger than yourself. 

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01:25 – Introducing Murph & Murph’sLife Foundation

06:52 – Childhood Poverty, Responsibility & the Inner Child

10:15 – Anxiety, Addiction, Debt & Hitting Rock Bottom

18:00 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

19:58 – Starting MurphsLife & Leaving Everything Behind

23:50 – COVID & Finding El Salvador

31:48 – Building Villages, Not Charity

35:25 – Bitcoin, Low Time Preference & Generational Wealth

40:16 – Meaning Beyond Comfort & Ego

42:41 - Ad Break

44:44 - “Pick Your Hard” & Surrender to God

49:40 – Why People Resonate With Murph

56:00 –  How To Support MurphsLife

1:00:00 – BEHIND THE SCENES: Peek into MurphsLife

My guest today is Zuby, a British-Nigerian rapper, author, podcaster, and public speaker, raised in Saudi Arabia and known for building an independent career outside traditional gatekeepers. We sit down in El Salvador’s National Palace to talk about why money doesn’t create courage, it only amplifies the character you already have, and why simply telling obvious truths has somehow become “brave” in modern society. Zuby reflects on speaking out during COVID-era, the incentives that keep public figures silent, and how courage is a muscle that either grows through use or atrophies through avoidance. We also explore the monetary crossroads ahead: Bitcoin as self-sovereign digital money vs. CBDCs as programmable control, the coming decentralization of states and culture, and why most people struggle to engage with money at all. Zuby argues that learning Bitcoin is one of the best time-ROIs you can make, and makes the case for a simple first step: get off zero. Finally, we go deeper into faith, the “black pill” trap, and why hope, meaning, and urgency come from remembering we don’t live forever.

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01:42 - Introducing Zuby: A Multi-Talented Personality

04:42 - Courage, Wealth, and Speaking Out

11:22 - Ad Break - Trezor & Abundant Mines

18:22 - The Craziness of Covid

21:42 - The Godly Spark

30:35 - Creating An Independent Career

37:15 - The Future of Money & Bitcoin

50:26 - Resistance to Change & Learning About Money

59:16 - How Zuby Shows “Fix The Money Fix The World”?

1:19:16 - Spiritual Awakening & Faith

1:30:06 - Inspiration & Hope

My guest today is Lea Petrasova, co-founder and CEO of Vexl, a peer-to-peer bitcoin app that lets people exchange bitcoin privately, without identification (KYC) or any middlemen. Lea is a prominent voice in the European cypherpunk community, dedicated to privacy, digital freedom, and restoring bitcoin’s original peer-to-peer design. We discuss why identity-linked bitcoin undermines true self-custody, how tightening cash controls and app-store censorship accelerate financial surveillance, and why Vexl chose to remain open-source and non-profit. Lea explains Vexl’s reputation-based trust model, the real risks of “dirty fiat,” and the growing global push toward CBDCs and digital IDs. We also explore how Vexl is evolving into a local marketplace for everything from food to services to hardware, showing how private, person-to-person exchange can quietly rebuild resilient, grassroots economies.

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00:00 Coming Up…

01:23 Introduction to Lea

05:58 Leah's Journey: From Academia to Bitcoin

09:08 The Birth of Vexl

12:33 Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

15:28 The Problem Vexl is Solving - Purchasing Bitcoin As Intended

23:08 Vexl Locality & Reputation’s Model

31:56 Ensuring User Safety & Bad Actor

33:48 The 1984 Apple Campaign Hypocrisy on Privacy

37:08 Launching The Freedom Store

40:08 Privacy In Today’s Surveillance Reality

43:58 Privacy in Bitcoin

47:00 Balancing Trust & Usability in Privacy Tools

54:00 Sustaining Open Source Projects, via Grants

55:20 What Keeps Lea Motivated?

My guest today is Lorraine Marcel, founder of Bitcoin Dada and its technical arm Dada Devs for women across Africa. She’s a financial activist reshaping Africa’s fintech landscape by training women across 12 countries in financial literacy, Bitcoin fundamentals, and technical development. We talk about how mobile money like M-Pesa, limited banking access, and cultural barriers around property shape the economic reality for African women, and why Bitcoin in much of Africa is used first for payments and day-to-day survival rather than long-term savings. We also explore the expanding reach of CBDC and VASP regulation, and why women-led projects such as Tando and Dada Devs are critical for building practical, grassroots Bitcoin economies that actually serve people on the ground.

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-- CHAPTERS –

00:00 - Coming Up…

01:50 - Lorraine's Background & Intro

04:33 - Financial Challenges of African Women

07:33 - Discovering Bitcoin & Initial Struggles

09:33 - Building “Bitcoin Dada” For Women

11:40 - Ad Break: Trezor & Abundant Mines

20:45 - Lorraine’s Mission Improves Lives

23:13 - Women’s Teaching Approach

25:46 - Digital Payments & CBDCs in Kenya

28:55 - Ad Break: Expat Money & New Totalitarian Order

31:02 - Bitcoin Adoption & Regulation in Kenya, Surveillance & KYC

33:58 - True Financial Empowerment

34:58 - Women As Bitcoin Developers - Tando’s Case Study

38:48 - Circular Economies in Africa

42:48 - HODLing vs. Using Bitcoin for Payments

47:58 - Recognition in Lorraine’s & Dada’s Impact

51:10 - How to Support Bitcoin Dada & Dada Devs

My guest today is Carol Souza, co-founder of Area Bitcoin, one of the largest Bitcoin education platforms in Latin America, reaching hundreds of thousands across Brazil and the Portuguese-speaking world. Her path began not in tech or finance, but as a dentist, where Brazil’s inflation, POS payment fees, and daily operational fragilities pushed her to study money and ultimately adopt Bitcoin as a survival tool for her clinic. We discuss Brazil’s long history of hyperinflation, savings confiscation, and the deep fiat mindset that still shapes economic life. Carol explains how PIX, open banking, and the proposed Drex CBDC form a sophisticated financial-surveillance architecture, and why she sees Bitcoin as a sovereignty instrument rather than a speculative asset.

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-- CHAPTERS –

00:00 - Coming Up

01:42 - Intro To Carol Souza: Bitcoin Advocate

03:40 - Carol's Journey to Bitcoin

07:00 - Bitcoin & Broken Money in Brazil 

11:15 - Ad Break

12:40 - Outcomes of Bitcoin Education

13:50 - Challenges of Accepting Solutions Like Bitcoin

18:30 - Is Digitalization a Barrier?

21:20 - Crypto vs. Bitcoin

23:20 - Brazil's CBDC - Pix & Drex

26:55 - Ad Break

29:05 - CBDC in Brazil Contd.

31:30 - Big Tech Censorship & Surveillance

34:00 - Bitcoin Education and Activism

37:00 - Open Source Education, AI & Vibe Coding

45:00 - Designers & Developers Training in Bitcoin

47:00 - Teaching Complex Bitcoin Concepts

48:40 - The Future of Bitcoin Education