In this episode, we chat with Dr. John Collier, Principal of St Andrew's Cathedral School and the Gawura School in Sydney.

Dr. John takes us through some of the most challenging aspects of being a school leader and discusses the types of leadership required in the most challenging moments as well as at different points of the journey. He discusses whether the Masters of Educational Leadership, the Doctor of Education or the Masters of Business Administration is the best possible preparation to be a Principal of an Independent School. He speaks candidly about the influence of politics on education and the benefit of dissent, as well as how we can think about indigenous education and be aspirational about reconciliation through education in Australia.

A great episode with one of the most experienced Principals in Australia.

You can find Dr John at https://www.sacs.nsw.edu.au/about-us/principles-message/

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