Fred Apgar worked in Air Force intelligence during the Vietnam War. However, he was part of the clandestine war in Laos that was not acknowledged at the time. We talk fire support, electronic warfare, and Fred's return to the country to close that chapter of his life. 

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00:00:00 J Cramer Graphics Ad
00:00:40 Intro | Joining the Air Force
00:04:07 Treatment of Veterans | Deployment Cycles
00:14:08 Individual Augments to Vietnam | Joining the Air Force
00:17:49 Vietnam Vet Reacts to Afghanistan Withdrawal
00:29:31 Airborne Intelligence in Laos and Vietnam
00:32:20 What are the JTAC and FAC Jobs?
00:41:28 Operations in Laos and the Naming of the Podcast
00:44:43 Laos ELINT Missions | TF Alpha
00:53:27 First Paveway Bombs | Dragon's Jaw Bridge
01:00:46 "We Weren't In Laos"
01:07:22 Redemption
01:18:11 Keep Your Honor Clean | POWs